btdt Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 i was wanting to mention to you (but your PM box is usually full these days)---perhaps one of the reasons you have a lot of trouble with technological glitches or failures is your EM field. people with neurological illness are often emanating EM fields differently than healthy people, and shifting states or extreme states can impact surrounding electronics. computers, hard drives, wireless signals, and even things like street lamps can be interfered with or damage through exposure to some types of fields or field changes. hopefully youll find a way to be back around before the summer is up. Pm box is good to go now WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 I am thinking of trying the supplements again one at a time... and this time no B12 WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
AliG Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Good luck, BTDT. You are inspiring , in your tenacity, and helpfulness. Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Adown Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 What happen to your computer? Maybe I can help you (depend of what). About supplements, don't give up... sometimes is difficult. My mother bought to me the other day a "multivitaminum", what got B1, B2, B3, B6, B8, B9, B12, D3, selenium and even royal jelly, all in one (what a combo). Well I give a shot, she bought that thinking on me for feel better. I take one and I was very sleepy all day, so.... XD is better try one per one and maybe you will find the right thing. The only thing I'm using right know is the coffee, due to low blood pressure and as you, for migraine, sometimes helps others not, but I prefer that to a painkiller. Keep us updated! 2005: sertraline + clorazepate until summer 2006, I quit very slowly without any problem and feeling even better. 2008 (around, I don't remember) I tried fluoxetine but leave the second day after a extrapidamidal syndrome. 2010: mirtazapine 30 mg + diazepam 10 mg, both everyday 2011: I tried to quit mirtazapine with the help of the psychiatrist, but nothing. I visit other psychiatrist and everyhing fails when escitalopram+mirtazapine and adding orfidal instead of diazepam, then I was 50mg every 12 hours of clorazepate for fix the damage of the new medication and I back to mirtazapine+diazepam. 2014: still with mirtazapine+diazepam, I quit diazepam, but then I back due I was not feeling better as I expected, I did like this: June 30/20mg, July 15/10mg, August 5mg, September just around 6 days 5mg, October 0, November 0, December back to 5/10, January same. 2015: Trying to quit mirtazapine since August, August was alternating few days between 30/22.5/15, September 22.5/15mg, October 15mg, November 15mg, December 15/7.5/0, January 15/7.5/0. My diagnostic before 2010 (all by doctors) was depression and anxiety, in 2010 was diagnostic with depression, anxiety, avoidant personality disorder, pineal cyst and don't remember if something more. Diagnostic since summer 2014 (all by doctors) is the same adding basal anxiety, agorofobia, anhedomia, depersonalization, derealization, hypothymia, asthenia. I will add obsesive compulsive disorder. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7869-adown-help-me-in-my-history/ Link to comment
Muddles Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Where art thou BTDT? I'm missing you but also hoping you are off because you are functioning a bit better and doing other stuff. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
jen84 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Btdt, I hope you are doing well. -jan14 2016- off effexor!!- wellbutrin:Jan 25/17;Start to split 100mg in half -Feb 12/17;100-50mg -Apr 30/17;50-30mg liquid. -June 6/ 17;30-20mg -July6/17;updose to 26mg -Oct 18/17;13 to 12mg -Nov 24/17;12 to 11mg -Feb 21/18;22 to 20mg -Apr 2/18;20 to 18mg -Apr 30/18;18 to 16mg -May 22/18;16 to 14mg -June 18/18;14 to 12.4mg -July 15 /18;12.4 to 11.6mg -Nov5/18;11.2 to 10mg -Dec14/18;10 to 10.4mg Link to comment
btdt Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Where art thou BTDT? I'm missing you but also hoping you are off because you are functioning a bit better and doing other stuff. Home alone mostly Muddles... it is hot here I was reading your thread some today not all of it since I have been gone but some enough to know you seen a doc about mirgraines who thinks your memory issues are from migraines... ya they said the same **** to me my tests results could be from mirgraines and that report read that I was too young to be having a brain that looked like that... whatever they dont' want to do any follow up and can't fix it I guess.. Not sure I would trust them if they said they had a cure as they lied before didn't they .... LIARS! I hope juicing helps and I hope you don't lose your home... cause bad as all the rest is it is just made worse when all you know and all your security is gone... for some reason this song has been on my mind.. one for the money two for the show... it has an old version that seems human to me... One for the money Two for the show Three to get ready And four to go. I have travelled all over this land And one sad thing I do find: When the wide road calls You must leave friends and all, Leaving a song behind For a while, Leaving a song behind. One for the money-- sing for a penny Two for the show-- any song that I know Three to get ready-- wide road is pretty And four to go And four to go. Some value money And some value fame Some value women and wine; But a song and a friend 'Round each turn of the bend Are riches I'd rather were mine Anytime, Riches I'd rather were mine. One for the money Two for the show Three to get ready And four to go. Now I am gone May my wish linger on, Its echo fall soft on your ear. May your riches increase May you all live in peace And happiness grow every year My friend, Happiness grow every year. One for the money-- sing for a penny Two for the show-- any song that I know Three to get ready-- wide road is pretty And four to go, It's been good to know you; And four to go: A long, long way to go. I so miss human.... I wish you peace will come back when I can get here... WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
westcoast Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 welcome back, btdt. i was a little worried that i'd have go all over the web looking for you but here u are! 2009: Cancer hospital said I had adjustment disorder because I thought they were doing it wrong. Their headshrinker prescribed Effexor, and my life set on a new course. I didn't know what was ahead, like a passenger on Disneyland's Matterhorn, smiling and waving as it climbs...clink, clink, clink. 2010: Post surgical accidental Effexor discontinuation by nurses, masked by intravenous Dilaudid. (The car is balanced at the top of the track.) I get home, pop a Vicodin, and ... Whooosh...down, down, down, down, down...goes the trajectory of my life, up goes my mood and tendency to think everything is a good idea.2012: After the bipolar jig was up, now a walking bag of unrelated symptoms, I went crazy on Daytrana (the Ritalin skin patch by Noven), because ADHD was a perfect fit for a bag of unrelated symptoms. I was prescribed Effexor for the nervousness of it, and things got neurological. An EEG showed enough activity to warrant an epilepsy diagnosis rather than non-epileptic ("psychogenic") seizures. 2013-2014: Quit everything and got worse. I probably went through DAWS: dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome. I drank to not feel, but I felt a lot: dread, fear, regret, grief: an utter sense of total loss of everything worth breathing about, for almost two years. I was not suicidal but I wanted to be dead, at least dead to the experience of my own brain and body. 2015: I began to recover after adding virgin coconut oil and organic grass-fed fed butter to a cup of instant coffee in the morning. I did it hoping for mental acuity and better memory. After ten days of that, I was much better, mood-wise. Approximately neutral. And, I experienced drowsiness. I could sleep. Not exactly happy, I did 30 days on Wellbutrin, because it had done me no harm in the past. I don't have the DAWS mood or state of mind. It never feel like doing anything if it means standing up. In fact, I don't especially like moving. I'm a brain with a beanbag body. Link to comment
Tilly Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Desiderata Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence.As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons.Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story.Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit.If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter;for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.Keep interested in your career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery.But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals;and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself.Especially, do not feign affection.Neither be critical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings.Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars;you have a right to be here.And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be,and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. © Max Ehrmann 1927 1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 - short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg -> 2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 - October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments -> Oct 2014 - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg; 19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March. Diet: mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins. Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated). Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics. Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure. Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future. "Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain Link to comment
btdt Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Not really back just visiting library style... I have a hernia and have had to rest waiting to get it fixed... I have been here one hour and it took that long to answer pms so now I am out of time and can't read what has been going on with you all... sorry I will catch up when I can take good care all my SA friends I wish you all peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted September 22, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 22, 2015 Rest well and come back all better. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Meimeiquest Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Ok, so I was worried about you. I'll admit it . I'm sorry about your hernia, but I was imagining worse. Hope you are healing well! 1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms. Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12 Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13 Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15 11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble) 9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol 7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol 56 years old Link to comment
Muddles Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 So pleased you have checked in. Miss you. Much love. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus mammaP Posted September 24, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 24, 2015 Sorry to hear about the hernia BT, hope you get it fixed very soon. **I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge. Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem) 1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat 2002 effexor. Tapered March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads. Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013 Restarted taper Nov 2013 OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015 Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014 Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg July 2017 30mg. May 15 2018 25mg Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33 Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible Link to comment
calithebold Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Hi btdt, It's been a while and so thought I'd drop by and say hi. Oh, that rhymed, lol. Hope you're okay All medications:: Xanax (1995-96), Aropax (1995-96), Mellaril (1997-2000), Efexor (1997-2002), Seroquel (2000-now), Lithium Carbonate (2000-now), Avanza (2002-05), Epilim (2005), Seroquel-XR (2000-now), Zyprexa (2002-14), Raberprazole (2000-now prn), Crestor (2009-15), Gabapentin (2009-12), Lamictal (2010-now), Abilify (2011-now) Lyrica (2012-now), Diazepam (2010-now prn), Saphris (2014), Respiridone (2014), Chlorpromazine (2014) Neulatil (07/2016) Current medications: Lithium Carbonate 750mg; Seroquel-XR 600mg, 800mg 04/16, 600mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 200mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 500mg 04/16; Lamictal 250mg 200mg150mg 04/16; Lyrica 300mg; Abilify 20mg 30mg 11/15 Zoloft 25mg 04/16 ceased after a week due to severe suicidal thoughts; Seroquel 25mg prn; Diazepam 40mg CT Jan 2013, 5mg occasionally, (massive med changes in April 2016 due to a hospital admission). Supplements: Fish oil 4000mg, Magnesium 100mg , Niacinamide 1000mg, Slippery Elm 800mg , B12 1000mcg, Zinc 50mg, B6 100mg, Vitamin D 2000IU, Calcium 1200mg, P5P 100mg, Vitamin C 2000mg, Vitamin E 400IU Link to comment
btdt Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hello all and thanks for checking on me and I surely understand why folks would think the worst glad to put those worries to bed... the hernia as it turns out I have two and they will be repaired when I get place in line so far I have no call and am told the wait time is 4-6 months. I do wonder if they have been the source of some of this pain that is always blamed on that sorry broken rib from the car accident... I do wonder. They are incisional hernias from having my gallbladder out in 98 one in the centre was dx by shouldice that famous clinic in 2006 or so... I was to have a open repair be in hosp 4 days a big and involved thing no doubt as most of their patients go home the same day. Oddly enough the new surgeon says he will put in a couple stitches for that hernia ...end of story. The new hernia that popped out is the right side same as the broken rib... it is bigger will require a patch most likely ... I told him I am not crazy about the use of mesh as I hear it slips and ends up in places it is not meant to be ... I don't need that.. he said he would see when he did it but it quite sure it will need a patch. When I went to shouldice it was for a different hernia the centre one was dx there though I had no symptoms there... I went there for a suspected groin hernia they said I did not have one but had this incisional hernia in the center it was never fixed. I have half a mind to go back to shouldice and get a second opinion... my weight would be a problem for them again weigth is way more now than it was the first time I went there. Other things well holding on best I can and I miss you guys too. wishing you all peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 I have a donated computer now with a broken power cord so may keep posts short rather than lose any big work. Nice to be connected again. Update: I have been sick about a month no hernia repair news yet they said 4-6 months wait so still in that zone. New thing fever body pain 5 days beat that I thought no drugs had blood work that seemed odd... then bam sick again cough this time. It has been wks now. was given a ceftin type drug cephorsporin family sorry I am not clicking right and not up to looking it up... had an anaphalactic reaction huge hives filled with water and mouth chin ect swelling ended up in emerg got prednisone tho I react to that too... by day 4 I could not lift my head off the pillow felt like my brain had swollen way bigger than my skull...I did not have to use the epi pen ... than my blessings as they come where they come... as I react to epinephrine at the dentist in the past and it is the same as the norepinephrine in good old effexor... I don't need it but I was told this is how it is... you have to take prednisone to stop the swelling as the other was not working and you have to use the epi or die... so that was that.. off I went and did not need the epi... I took the prednisone half the time they said 4 out of 8 days was told I could stop when the face swelling was gone and it was but my brain felt like it had swollen.... maybe it moved to my brain. been all rattled and shook up mentally of late it takes me a long time to recover from prednisone been off less that a wk... since I quit I had a reaction to a tomato sandwich with lime and can't think of the word... hmm.. so I looked up low histamine food and ate what I had in the house ... asparagus soup and peppermint tea for a few days ... I keep thinking it has all passed and I will be better soon then then the fever comes back still sneezing and coughing wondering if it is in part a histamine problem.... any ideas???? WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 I am trying to avoid any further drugs from the doctor... but it does not seem to be leaving me... any suggestions. I have been taking oregano oil... hoping. Allergies and anaphalatic ... are these post ssri things.. histamine? WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Nice to see you back btdt but sorry to hear you have not been good. The drug you took was an antibiotic - I've never heard of it though? Thing is - we cannot tolerate medication. Antibioitics or anything else damages us further. I have had this confirmed and put in my notes thanks to Dr Healy. I don't know what will happen if I ever needed anything but since I hit poop-out I have not had any illness at all which is odd but I suppose it's better than being the other way. It's really tough to be sick and need stuff that you can't tolerate. What a battle. Definitely sounds like you have histamine issues and I would look into sorting your diet. How scary that must have been for you - the anaphylactic shock!! Have you ever had one of those before? I have been thinking of you a lot. I hope you manage to find something that can help you. Muddles xox 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 Nice to see you back btdt but sorry to hear you have not been good. The drug you took was an antibiotic - I've never heard of it though? Thing is - we cannot tolerate medication. Antibioitics or anything else damages us further. I have had this confirmed and put in my notes thanks to Dr Healy. I don't know what will happen if I ever needed anything but since I hit poop-out I have not had any illness at all which is odd but I suppose it's better than being the other way. It's really tough to be sick and need stuff that you can't tolerate. What a battle. Definitely sounds like you have histamine issues and I would look into sorting your diet. How scary that must have been for you - the anaphylactic shock!! Have you ever had one of those before? I have been thinking of you a lot. I hope you manage to find something that can help you. Muddles xox I likely called it the wrong name had a headache and trying to keep the pain pills I have for emergencies... gave in and took one now... so I can think better. this is the drug Ceftin is in a group of drugs called cephalosporin (SEF a low spor in) antibiotics. It works by fighting bacteria in your body.Ceftin is used to treat many kinds of bacterial infections, including severe or life-threatening forms. No I have not had a reaction that affected my breathing or caused me to swell up like that this is the first time but I have had this family of drug a lot the last few years and have had terrible gut reactions to it and had to stop eating more than once. This time I have severe pain after three days... gut pain left side so bad I thought I had another hernia I went on a soup diet hit the shouldice clinic famous for hernias... they said it wasn't a hernia I did not get to see the surgeon I wanted and I may go back to see that particular doc... I am having second thoughts about the hernia surgery... scared to do it and want to know exactly what will be done not the way it stand now ... as in he will see when he gets in there not good enough. I have had other reactions skin which I had this time too I had a type of hives this time but they were the size of my hand and full of fluid... raised rather high. I did not know I was having anaphalatic and went to my doc for the huge hive like things waiting twice one in the clinic then again in her office when they sent me to her... she had a fit when she seen me... said never wait when your having anaphalactic I did not know that was what I was having ... yes it was very scary... I so did not want to take the prednisone wish they had a different drug... did not want the epi either could you imagine what the fallout from that would be on a person like us... I don't want to find out. Part of the reason I am rethinking surgery... too risky maybe I just don't know. I am so glad your one of the ones who has had an immune boost from all this I have been the complete opposite my health stared failing in pooped out took ages to get any stability which I lost with that car accident the pneumonia the rectocele entrocele repair and all the infections and drugs involved in all that.... I am tired and weighing the risk of not fixing it with the complications of fixing and infection = futher drugs a lot to think about. I am way behind and know your not here much so I am out of touch will read the latest post you made and see what is up. peace B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
direstraits Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 glad to see you back here,btdt,but so sorry to hear you still are struggling so much...you must be a very strong person to endure all you've been through....it's heartbreaking...I hope things will turn around for you soon...you deserve to be healthy and happy...take care...xo went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
Muddles Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Apparently is just as bad not to be getting sick - Im not sure what that means but I know it's not normal to never suffer a cold when prior to this I would have at least 2 chest infections a year. So strange but of course would rather it be this way. One lady told me she was like this and knew she was healing when she started suffering 'normal' illness such as a cold. I can't believe you had such a bad scary reaction! That is a real allergy where as most things we react to are usually intolerances. I can understand why you were so worried about having the pen. Gosh btdt what a mess they have us in Eh? I would defintiely speak to someone about this hernia op. You need to really see if it is essential. Is it giving you really bad pain? 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Meimeiquest Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Btdt, you do amaze me! Just sending a "hug." 1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms. Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12 Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13 Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15 11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble) 9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol 7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol 56 years old Link to comment
btdt Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 Apparently is just as bad not to be getting sick - Im not sure what that means but I know it's not normal to never suffer a cold when prior to this I would have at least 2 chest infections a year. So strange but of course would rather it be this way. One lady told me she was like this and knew she was healing when she started suffering 'normal' illness such as a cold. I can't believe you had such a bad scary reaction! That is a real allergy where as most things we react to are usually intolerances. I can understand why you were so worried about having the pen. Gosh btdt what a mess they have us in Eh? I would defintiely speak to someone about this hernia op. You need to really see if it is essential. Is it giving you really bad pain? As long as I don't do anything the hernia is ok... really stifles my life. It has not come out again because I am so careful but when it is out it is not a pain I could stand not even a short while. The danger of it is that the intestine gets caught and then we have blood flow infection problems. I could wait till it needs to be done but I am told emergency operations have higher risks of mistakes ...had that with my appendix they cut my bowel putting it back in and had to pull it all out and stitch it...no body told me of course 10 years later a lawyer I had got the paperwork about it. I am not sure what to do. ?????? What I don't get is why now after I have taken this drug often the past 2 year why am I allergic now...doc says it just happens this way...suddenly allergic. It sure is a mess. Not too many good directions to turn feeling a bit boxed in... today I was looking at histamine again for coughing and head aches and blah blah.. reactions of course... I took a periet and have not coughed since I took it... maybe my cold has something to do with histamine and gut... interesting... for sure Histamine is amazing me now... it has plenty to do with our immune systems.... and I was never sick when I was first on effexor only when it started pooping out then I was sick all the time... likely depends on our genes how it affects us. I wonder if it has changed us genetically. who knows wishing you well Muddles Peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 Btdt, you do amaze me! Just sending a "hug." Thanks for the hug... I am not sure what is amazing just trying to survive peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 I came here to do an update and got side tracked so am back to do it. I took a pariet yesterday when whatever I was coughing up in this month long "cold businesss" tasted like bile and a watering of the mouth came on... it was odd and reminded me of a reaction I had to clavin. Either way I took a pariet 10 mg the coughing eased a great deal and I went to sleep for yet another day. Got up at 5pm with severe diarrhoea.... I am not planning on taking any more pariet.. we will see. But I did look up pariet affect on histamine... http://factmed.com/study-PARIET-causing-HISTAMINE%20LEVEL%20INCREASED.php more general info about pareiet if anyone needs it http://home.intekom.com/pharm/janssen/pariet.html pareit - Rabeprazole sodium I was first put on this drug after a gastro bleed while on effexor... long after as I had no doctor and one hosp lost the papers I had to bring from a different hosp... lol around we go I am still here... This was the only ppi drug I could tolerate after going thru several of the others so I have it just in case. I think I may have some H2 they can be bough otc.. anyway. I am not planning on taking anymore.. I have needed them in the past year to treat what my doc said was drug induce colitis from the same drug I just reacted to the ceftin... I did see a gastro doc who calmly stated long after the fact due to waiting lists that I did not have colitis he knew this without any testing or checking of my body... actually I was not sick by the time I got to him that is it peace all I missed my anniversary while away Nov 18 2007 8 years antidepressant free... I know this site was started in part because another un named site would not recognize protracted withdrawal now I think we have that out of the way and it is normalized.... feels like a sin to normalize such a thing but a bigger sin yet to not.. I am still not clicking just right.... hopefully I am going the right direction now I have started up probiotics. peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus JanCarol Posted December 11, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 11, 2015 Hey B - I just wanted to stop by and say hay. Been thinking about you. I'm glad you're back, I'm sorry it was a rough time with the surgery and antibiotic and all - I hope you are feeling better soon. And I hope you see the sun today. "Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again. My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices. A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia. CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013. Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine). Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 - Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years on Lithium). Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made. The tedious thread (my intro): JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium The happy thread (my success story): JanCarol - Undiagnosed Off all bipolar drugs My own blog: https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/ I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016! Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Hi btdt, Like everyone else I am happy to see you return here, though of course thoroughly upset that things continue to be so hard for you. The anaphylactic shock sounds so scary! I am glad you are okay, as in, glad you survived! By the time you get through everything I suspect you'll have earned a medical degree or two...I don't even know how you manage frankly, having to deal with so many problems. Hope things start to click very soon... US I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted December 13, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 13, 2015 Its good to see you back BT, I thought about you while you were gone and often wondered how you are. Sorry its still rough for you. (hugs) I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment
btdt Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 Hey B - I just wanted to stop by and say hay. Been thinking about you. I'm glad you're back, I'm sorry it was a rough time with the surgery and antibiotic and all - I hope you are feeling better soon. And I hope you see the sun today. Thanks Jan I am inching my way toward health.. of general standard.. not what others would call health but you know what I mean I think... out of bed awake able to think breath and eat... that type of health.. slow but sure, It is good to be back Peace Jan WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 Hi btdt, Like everyone else I am happy to see you return here, though of course thoroughly upset that things continue to be so hard for you. The anaphylactic shock sounds so scary! I am glad you are okay, as in, glad you survived! By the time you get through everything I suspect you'll have earned a medical degree or two...I don't even know how you manage frankly, having to deal with so many problems. Hope things start to click very soon... US Thanks US nice to be back I wonder about the anaphylatic thing if I had to use the epi ped what would it do to me since I react to that at the dentist and he stopped giving it to me years ago... I wanted to ask the emerg doc but only got as far as what if I did not use the epi pen cause it would react ... his answer stopped my questions so I never got an answer... seizure maybe I guess your suppose to call and ambulance when you use the epi maybe I don't know will check next visit this is all new to me I was never allergic before not like this had skin issues only. I am so far behind with all your progress... I have no idea how anyone actually is except Muddles and Mamma I just don't have the engergy to read a lot yet... but I will catch up slowly and surely when I am able. wishing you peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 Its good to see you back BT, I thought about you while you were gone and often wondered how you are. Sorry its still rough for you. (hugs) Hugs to you Petu I was wondering how the vit C and pro biotic experiment was going ... ? short version? WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted December 15, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 15, 2015 Hugs to you Petu I was wondering how the vit C and pro biotic experiment was going ... ? short version? Hmm! Short version, ok, I'll try. No more pro-biotics or pre-biotics, neither of them seem to make much difference one way or the other. Highish doses of vit C seemed to help quite a bit at first, but then back to the normal windows/waves/baseline pattern, so not sure about that either. I still take 4000mg per day, slow release formula. My current experiment is L-Theanine, for more details, check out my thread... which I probably need to update. I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment
btdt Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 Not clicking right yet but having some better moments. I am still ill but it is more than that now it is recent drug use that has me messed up. I have managed some damage control today and put off some things I was set to do as I am just not up to it. My brain is my worry more than anything trying to preserve and protect the brain is not easy when drugs are needed for other health problems. Still bumping around doing the best I can and hoping for a soft landing of healing peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Hi btdt, Like everyone else I am happy to see you return here, though of course thoroughly upset that things continue to be so hard for you. The anaphylactic shock sounds so scary! I am glad you are okay, as in, glad you survived! By the time you get through everything I suspect you'll have earned a medical degree or two...I don't even know how you manage frankly, having to deal with so many problems. Hope things start to click very soon... US Thanks US nice to be back I wonder about the anaphylatic thing if I had to use the epi ped what would it do to me since I react to that at the dentist and he stopped giving it to me years ago... I wanted to ask the emerg doc but only got as far as what if I did not use the epi pen cause it would react ... his answer stopped my questions so I never got an answer... seizure maybe I guess your suppose to call and ambulance when you use the epi maybe I don't know will check next visit this is all new to me I was never allergic before not like this had skin issues only. I am so far behind with all your progress... I have no idea how anyone actually is except Muddles and Mamma I just don't have the engergy to read a lot yet... but I will catch up slowly and surely when I am able. wishing you peace Hey btdt, I wonder about that sort of thing too. I can't even recall what got me started on this but, years ago in acute withdrawal I got myself into a severe panic about the possibility of becoming allergic to something or other and then needing an epi pen and would I be able to handle it. I hope your doctor will be able to help you figure out if you can stand it or not. Also did you get a medic alert bracelet for the AB allergy? If not, may be something to consider...Though there's no legal obligation for medical professionals to check them from what I was told. Still in an emergency may be better than not having one. Take care, US I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
btdt Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 Hi btdt, Like everyone else I am happy to see you return here, though of course thoroughly upset that things continue to be so hard for you. The anaphylactic shock sounds so scary! I am glad you are okay, as in, glad you survived! By the time you get through everything I suspect you'll have earned a medical degree or two...I don't even know how you manage frankly, having to deal with so many problems. Hope things start to click very soon... US Thanks US nice to be back I wonder about the anaphylatic thing if I had to use the epi ped what would it do to me since I react to that at the dentist and he stopped giving it to me years ago... I wanted to ask the emerg doc but only got as far as what if I did not use the epi pen cause it would react ... his answer stopped my questions so I never got an answer... seizure maybe I guess your suppose to call and ambulance when you use the epi maybe I don't know will check next visit this is all new to me I was never allergic before not like this had skin issues only. I am so far behind with all your progress... I have no idea how anyone actually is except Muddles and Mamma I just don't have the engergy to read a lot yet... but I will catch up slowly and surely when I am able. wishing you peace Hey btdt, I wonder about that sort of thing too. I can't even recall what got me started on this but, years ago in acute withdrawal I got myself into a severe panic about the possibility of becoming allergic to something or other and then needing an epi pen and would I be able to handle it. I hope your doctor will be able to help you figure out if you can stand it or not. Also did you get a medic alert bracelet for the AB allergy? If not, may be something to consider...Though there's no legal obligation for medical professionals to check them from what I was told. Still in an emergency may be better than not having one. Take care, US The way it was put to me at emerg was if my throat closed I would die anyway so take the epi and deal with reactions later. I think my own doc is average at best so I am not sure I would be too trusting in her opinion... just now I am treating myself best I can and staying as far from doctors as long as I can tho I am still coughing ect... I am getting better very slowly. I hope to be better before xmass but it may not happen by then. One more year with a crappy holiday...whats another year. grrr I have a wk... that is not long I have not been out of bed much the past month so a wk does not seem like much time to jump up and run to get Xmass going... ugh. Think I need a nap WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
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