Frogie: how to taper off Lexapro and Xanax?

[Frogie]

11 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Hi Frogie 

im not a good one to interact with today. Day 5 of taper. It hit me hard. Too bad we can’t sit and cry together.

 

I think the lower you go in dose, the more emotional you’ll be. You don’t have as much drug to cover up emotions.  When I ct’d Zoloft years ago, I had all the emotions rushing in and it was work to sort through them. Not easy. But they weren’t all bad emotions like now. I would laugh, then I would cry. I was certifiable. 

 

Hiw nice your fiance bought you a new bike. Ride it girl!! 15 min is a good start. Do that for a week and work your way up. You’ll have a bikini body by summer!

I wish we could cry together too. Maybe we would both feel better.

 

I'm glad to know that it's emotions on lower doses. I don't know how you do it with your grand babies. But maybe that's a good thing. They keep you busy.

 

Are you still having the headaches and nausea? I hope not.

 

My fiancé bought the bike for himself, but told me to use it. It would be a scary thing to see me in a bikini. They would lock me up lol...

 

Thanks for helping me. I really appreciate it.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Frogie]

4 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Damn lexapro 

Exactly!

[Frogie]

28 minutes ago, Scorpio said:

Hi frogie

 

i think we are in the same miserable boat. It can only get better. 

 

‘’We have overdosed on snow and the chaos it caused, now have rain and burst pipes , lots of people without water. I long for spring and sun. 

 

‘’Keep going, frogie. Be kind to yourself. 

Thanks Scorpio:

 

It can only get better. And it will for both of us.

 

I wish we overdosed on snow. I think if you count our one big storm, we might have had 10 inches all together. I would even settle for rain. I can't handle the hot weather. And it gets hot where I live because we are in the country.

 

You be kind to yourself too.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Littlegrandma]

I’ve been crying for the last hour. Crying out to God. 

Yeah, I have the migraine and nausea. Tinnitus screaming in my ears. Along with burning face and legs. And my favorite, akathasia is back. I cleaned my fridge at 6 am. And my pantry a bit. And laundry. Didn’t really want to but was crawling out of my skin. Woke for the last time at 4 and jumped out of bed and started pacing. My phone or tv couldn’t distract me. Had to do something. 

 

Youre going to have some grieving to do, my friend. It’s amazing how this damn drug snuffs all emotions. Let the tears flow. One day soon, they will turn to laughter. We have some line dancing to do. And I won’t care how hystericallly you laugh at me. And I’ll laugh my a$$ off at you in your bikini. 

[Frogie]

10 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

I’ve been crying for the last hour. Crying out to God. 

Yeah, I have the migraine and nausea. Tinnitus screaming in my ears. Along with burning face and legs. And my favorite, akathasia is back. I cleaned my fridge at 6 am. And my pantry a bit. And laundry. Didn’t really want to but was crawling out of my skin. Woke for the last time at 4 and jumped out of bed and started pacing. My phone or tv couldn’t distract me. Had to do something. 

 

Youre going to have some grieving to do, my friend. It’s amazing how this damn drug snuffs all emotions. Let the tears flow. One day soon, they will turn to laughter. We have some line dancing to do. And I won’t care how hystericallly you laugh at me. And I’ll laugh my a$$ off at you in your bikini. 

I have you beat. I've been crying for the last 2 hours.

 

I am so sorry that you still have the migraines, nausea and tinnitus. I never knew you had burning face and legs. I haven't had akasthisia for a while thank goodness. 

 

I'm nauseous today. But I think it's because I'm upset.

 

When I have all of my WD symptoms going on, I can't do anything. I just sit. And cry and cry some more. I couldn't do anything if I wanted to. You can come clean mine anytime.

 

Yes we do have some line dancing to do. Maybe we can all do it in bikinis lol...

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

[Littlegrandma]

Maybe a bikini top with daisy dukes. My kids got me some great Justin cowboy boots a couple years ago for Christmas. They’re brown on the bottom , but ankle up are dark pink. Love em!! They’ll be great for boot scootin boogie. 

 

With akathasia, there is no sitting. Even with the pounding headache. My legs are flailing on the couch right now while I write this. Oh God, I hate this!!

 

yeah, I have burning face and thighs. And bottom of feet. And pins and needles everywhere. The worst is the eyes burning. It affects my eyesight and is such a claustrophobic feeling. I’m trappped like a rat in a body and brain  I’d trade any day. But if anybody kicked my tires, they’d not take it. 

 

Come over here and cry with me. You’d probably be happy. It’s flippin snowing again. 

 

 

[RachelSusan]

Frogie,

I’m so proud of you for getting on the bike. I’m sorry you are depressed. I’m thinking of you and hopping things improve for you. 

Xoxo

Rachel

[Frogie]

13 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Maybe a bikini top with daisy dukes. My kids got me some great Justin cowboy boots a couple years ago for Christmas. They’re brown on the bottom , but ankle up are dark pink. Love em!! They’ll be great for boot scootin boogie. 

 

With akathasia, there is no sitting. Even with the pounding headache. My legs are flailing on the couch right now while I write this. Oh God, I hate this!!

 

yeah, I have burning face and thighs. And bottom of feet. And pins and needles everywhere. The worst is the eyes burning. It affects my eyesight and is such a claustrophobic feeling. I’m trappped like a rat in a body and brain  I’d trade any day. But if anybody kicked my tires, they’d not take it. 

 

Come over here and cry with me. You’d probably be happy. It’s flippin snowing again. 

 

 

The top and Daisy Dukes might be ok if I can lose my stomach. I have people ask me when I'm due. I wear leggings and long t-shirts now. The boots sound awesome!

 

The only place I get akasthisia like I said was in my knees. It's awful. But I got this magnesium cream off of amazon. It's called kabana  Magic Magnesium Creme. It works great. Then the weights you buy to put around your ankles, I lay them flat on my knees kinda like a weighted blanket. 

 

I wish it would snow. Right now we have 50+ mph winds. But the rest of the week back in the 60's-70's. It went from fall to summer. I can't handle the heat living out here in the country. We are under fire warnings because it's so dry here.

 

I'm so sorry you feel so trapped inside your body with all the side effects. You have no idea how much better you make me feel. And all I'm complaining about is crying 😢😢😢

[Frogie]

7 minutes ago, RachelSusan said:

Frogie,

I’m so proud of you for getting on the bike. I’m sorry you are depressed. I’m thinking of you and hopping things improve for you. 

Xoxo

Rachel

Thanks Rachel:

 

You have no idea how much you made me feel. With all your problems, and I'm complaining because I'm crying.

 

Hope you are doing better.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Flowers]

Dear Frogie

 

How fantastic that you did some time on the exercise bike!  

 

I am sorry that you are teary and down.  I am thinking of you and sending love and hugs.

 

Flowers xxx

[Frogie]

1 minute ago, Flowers said:

Dear Frogie

 

How fantastic that you did some time on the exercise bike!  

 

I am sorry that you are teary and down.  I am thinking of you and sending love and hugs.

 

Flowers xxx

Thanks Flowers:

 

I rode in turtle mode, but at least I did something.

 

Do you ever get weepy like this?

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Littlegrandma]

At least you look young enough if people suspect you might be pg. you can always lose the belly, but you can’t lose the wrinkles. I think I’ve aged 10 years in the last 10 mo. Boy, it’s been a long 10 mo.!!

 

60-70 is not hot, silly. I’d take that 365 days a year. Do you ski?  I’ve only snow skiied a couple times. I love water skiing. 

 

If you want to cry on my shoulder, you’re always welcome. I hope you feel better now. You’ve had the troops come to your rescue. 

 

Big hugs

[Flowers]

16 minutes ago, Frogie said:

Thanks Flowers:

 

I rode in turtle mode, but at least I did something.

 

Do you ever get weepy like this?

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

If you keep at it the exercise may lift your mood.  

 

I do get teary when in a wave but try to get out for a walk  and that seems to help. I don't have anything to cry about but feel desolate when in a wave and everything gets on top of me.

 

I don't have all the family issues you have though Frogie and being homesick must be just awful.  I have seen people go through it here when they have come to live here  from a different country and then regretted it. Being away from their loved ones  and wanting to be back with them, then having to wait to sell up etc etc.

 

Time goes fast though Frogie and it's March already so you are getting nearer to your goal of getting back home.

 

I hope you can get on your bike everyday - it might just help.

 

Thinking of you and sending big hugs and to  Brownie also.

 

Flowers xxx

 

 

[Frogie]

8 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

At least you look young enough if people suspect you might be pg. you can always lose the belly, but you can’t lose the wrinkles. I think I’ve aged 10 years in the last 10 mo. Boy, it’s been a long 10 mo.!!

 

60-70 is not hot, silly. I’d take that 365 days a year. Do you ski?  I’ve only snow skiied a couple times. I love water skiing. 

 

If you want to cry on my shoulder, you’re always welcome. I hope you feel better now. You’ve had the troops come to your rescue. 

 

Big hugs

I have a lot of wrinkles too. It's been a long almost 3 years for me!

 

60-70's is hot in the winter when it should be snowing. I tried skiing a couple of times, couldn't do it. I love water skiing and wave runners, but since I took my fall and injured my hand and foot I don't know if I could do it.

 

I'm still bawling like a baby but I'll be ok. My favorite people are here with me.

 

Thanks...

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Frogie]

2 minutes ago, Flowers said:

If you keep at it the exercise may lift your mood.  

 

I do get teary when in a wave but try to get out for a walk  and that seems to help. I don't have anything to cry about but feel desolate when in a wave and everything gets on top of me.

 

I don't have all the family issues you have though Frogie and being homesick must be just awful.  I have seen people go through it here when they have come to live here  from a different country and then regretted it. Being away from their loved ones  and wanting to be back with them, then having to wait to sell up etc etc.

 

Time goes fast though Frogie and it's March already so you are getting nearer to your goal of getting back home.

 

I hope you can get on your bike everyday - it might just help.

 

Thinking of you and sending big hugs and to  Brownie also.

 

Flowers xxx

 

 

Homesick is awful. I don't really think my fiancé thought about all of that when he took this job. He is very homesick too. I miss going on a Friday and picking up my granddaughter and keeping her overnight and then my oldest son and daughter in law would come pick her up Saturday morning. Now it's just a huge ordeal to get her. I haven't had her in I don't know how long. It's a 2 1/2 hour drive to pick her up and she has things she does on the weekends. 

 

I know now it's already March, but it's still not fast enough for me lol... I'm impatient.

 

I'm going to try the bike everyday. It might help. Sure can't hurt.

 

Thanks for the hugs. Brownie says thank you too. Give yours hugs from me. What are their names?

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[RachelSusan]

3 hours ago, Frogie said:

You have no idea how much you made me feel. With all your problems, and I'm complaining because I'm crying.

Frogie,

I much rather be going through hip problems than crying.  I much rather be going through anything else than any sort of emotional upheaval caused by drugs.  Ouch, it's an awful place to be.  However I do believe that it will turn around for you, sooner rather than later.  Do you think you might be able to do that bike tomorrow for another 15 minutes, or even 5 minutes?  If you could keep going it might help, maybe not, but it's worth a try.  It's so hard to get motivated isn't it?  That's why I am so proud of you doing it today.

 

Perhaps it would be a good time to cuddle with Brownie and a blanket?  That sounds rather nice to me.

 

RS

[Frogie]

19 minutes ago, RachelSusan said:

Frogie,

I much rather be going through hip problems than crying.  I much rather be going through anything else than any sort of emotional upheaval caused by drugs.  Ouch, it's an awful place to be.  However I do believe that it will turn around for you, sooner rather than later.  Do you think you might be able to do that bike tomorrow for another 15 minutes, or even 5 minutes?  If you could keep going it might help, maybe not, but it's worth a try.  It's so hard to get motivated isn't it?  That's why I am so proud of you doing it today.

 

Perhaps it would be a good time to cuddle with Brownie and a blanket?  That sounds rather nice to me.

 

RS

It is an awful place to be. But the good thing is, is that I know it is the Lexapro and I'm not mental. I'll get over it. I'm going to try and ride the bike again tomorrow. 

 

I tried to snuggle with Brownie but she wanted nothing to do with it. I hope she will tonight while we watch tv.

 

I'm so happy to hear how well your hip is doing. You've come a long way.

 

Thanks for caring. It means a lot.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Frogie]

On March 4, 2018 at 5:59 PM, manymoretodays said:

Oh Frogie,

 

It does sound tough.  One thing that I have learned in my 12 stepping group and will probably get reinforced when I get to Alanon  and work on daily is:  I can only control myself really, both internally(most especially internally for me) and externally.......for example what comes out of my mouth as far as verbage and other actions.  I found myself inventorying on a couple occasions my dear brother and his wife during their stay and then even gossiping about each of them with the other.  Great going mmt........I thought to myself.  It wasn't too, too bad and thankfully they are family as well as friends who........well, you know........Love me in spite of myself sometimes.  I am no relationship expert but do know that I am learning,  as well as growing in this regard.......regarding my own relationships that I hold near and dear.

 

And it is now day 4 since your decrease in Lexapro.   It could be tougher right now on that account......the thoughts and especially obsessional thoughts.  It sure helped me a ton to just attribute some of my wonkiness to recent changes in medications.  And you finished your Z pack right around the time you decreased as well.  Did you clear up from the infection nicely? 

 

And oh.......memories.  I don't know what it is about memories and W/D.  I had the weirdest memory thing going for awhile while on my last medication which was Trileptal/oxcarbazapine. 

 

Would you consider doing a bit of  a timed journal entry around symptoms and medications throughout the day.  I'll copy the format for you below.  It might really help us to help you better.  Include the Xanax doses of course and any other medications taken.  I hope you are not offended by my asking for such again.   And then share what you have when you have a couple of days going.

 

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Posted September 27, 2016 (edited)

Keep notes on paper about your drug dosages and daily symptom pattern

 

A symptom pattern that occurs regularly over several days could mean the symptoms are from withdrawal, other adverse effects of drugs, or something else you do on a daily schedule.

 

In the course of discussion in your Introductions forum topic, you may be asked to keep notes on paper of your daily symptom pattern, including when you take your drugs, their dosages, and any symptoms.

 

What we need to see for every individual day over several days is:

- Time and dosage for drugs taken in morning
- Time and description of any symptoms in the morning
 
- Time and dosage for drugs taken in afternoon
- Time and description of any symptoms in the afternoon
 
- Time and dosage for drugs taken in evening
- Time and description of any symptoms in the evening
 
- Time and dosage for drugs taken in middle of the night
- Time and description of any symptoms in the middle of the night (such as waking)
 
And so forth. A diary, in chronological order, such as:
 
6 a.m. Woke and vomited
8 a.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro
10 a.m. Had diarrhea
10:30 a.m. Ate breakfast
11:35 a.m. Got a headache, lasted one hour
12:35 p.m. Ate lunch
4 p.m. Stomachache
5 p.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro
6 p.m. Ate dinner
9:20 p.m. Headache
10:00 p.m. Took 50mg Seroquel
10:20 p.m. Headache got worse
10:30 p.m. Fell asleep
2:30 a.m. Woke, took 3mg Ambien (NOT "took 1/2 tablet Ambien")
2:45 a.m. Fell asleep
4:30 a.m. Woke with headache

 

An appointments diary is perfect for this and can be bought at stationery stores. 

They have a page for each day with times for appointments which can be filled in with doses, symptoms etc as shown by Alto.

 

Any Epsom salt baths yet?  And take it easy.  Rest a bit more if needed.  Watch t.v. or read.  Head on out for just an exploratory drive around.  Just a short one.  Something to get dressed for.  Talk to a few strangers.......I mean just a hello or something.  Do you ever do Qigong, yoga, or even some gentle stretches with a video on your screen?  

 

Hang in there.  It always gets better...... Oh yah.  Try and be certain that whatever you do with diet/nutritional intake that you keep up your blood sugar......instead of allowing it too fluctuate too much.  This can really help with mood, obsessional thoughts, etc.  Lot's of protein.  Complex carbs.  Maybe small frequent feeds.

 

Love, peace, healing/inrecovery, and growth,

mmt

 

Oh and celebrate!  You are way below 10 mg. of Lexapro now baby!  Yes you are!

 

 

Hi:

 

I posted 2 days of a journal on my thread (well, writing it now).

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Littlegrandma]

Morning Frogie 

feel better today?

I’ll talk to you later, after you get your journal done. xxLg 

[Frogie]

3/5/18

 

6:30 am woke up took 2.0mg Lexapro and 1mg Xanax

6:45 am fed Brownie 

7:00 am ate breakfast

11:00 am took 1mg Xanax and Milk Thistle

12:00 pm ate lunch

4:30 pm took 1mg Xanax 

6:00 pm ate dinner

7:00 - 10:00 pm watched tv

10:00 pm went to bed

1:30 am woke up got drink of water went right back to sleep

Watched tv all day

 

 

3/6/18

6:30 am woke up took 2mg Lexapro and 1mg Xanax 

6:45 am fed Brownie

7:00 am ate breakfast - started crying - cried all day

11:00 am took 1mg Xanax and Milk Thistle 

12:00 pm ate lunch - boiled eggs

2:00 (around - rode exercise bike for 15 minutes)

4:30 pm took 1mg Xanax 

6:00 pm ate dinner

7:00 - 9:00 pm watched tv 

9:00 pm went to bed

1:30 am woke up but went right back to sleep

Watched tv all day and cried

 

 

 

[Frogie]

9 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Morning Frogie 

feel better today?

I’ll talk to you later, after you get your journal done. xxLg 

Good morning...

 

I haven't started crying yet so must be better. But I feel like I could anytime. I don't know what's wrong with me.

 

Thanks for thinking of me.

 

How are you?

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Littlegrandma]

I hope you don’t have the urge to cry today, but if you do, it’s ok. Let it out. 

I’m feeling a bit better today. Thank goodness. I have the kids today. But my mom will be here to help me. Or at least for moral support. 

Have a good day!!😊

[Frogie]

16 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

I hope you don’t have the urge to cry today, but if you do, it’s ok. Let it out. 

I’m feeling a bit better today. Thank goodness. I have the kids today. But my mom will be here to help me. Or at least for moral support. 

Have a good day!!😊

Thanks.

I'm glad you are feeling a little better and you have family time! Lucky you.

You have a good day too.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Downbutnotout]

1 hour ago, Frogie said:

Thanks.

I'm glad you are feeling a little better and you have family time! Lucky you.

You have a good day too.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

Hoping everyone is feeling better. 

[Downbutnotout]

2 hours ago, Littlegrandma said:

I hope you don’t have the urge to cry today, but if you do, it’s ok. Let it out. 

I’m feeling a bit better today. Thank goodness. I have the kids today. But my mom will be here to help me. Or at least for moral support. 

Have a good day!!😊

I’m glad you’re doing better!

[Frogie]

6 minutes ago, Downbutnotout said:

I’m glad you’re doing better!

I will be ok. Just more drama in my life right now. Makes my stomach sick.

Hope you are well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Littlegrandma]

36 minutes ago, Downbutnotout said:

I’m glad you’re doing better!

Thanks D. 

Hope you’re ok. 

[Downbutnotout]

I’m glad you both responded ! 

[Frogie]

1 hour ago, Downbutnotout said:

I’m glad you both responded ! 

I have to learn to use tools when I have drama in my life. The meds are going away and can't make me numb and unaware of emotions. But I'll be ok. Just a little nauseous because of it.

I'm glad you both are doing better than me!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Dalalea]

13 minutes ago, Frogie said:

I have to learn to use tools when I have drama in my life.

 

Yes! I know what you mean. When things aren't too bad, I do great using my tools! Yea me! LOL

It's when drama or any kind of stress hits that I tell myself, "I don't know what to do!" or "I can't handle this!" when in reality, my tools are sitting there completely unused!

I have to find a way to go from situation to solution with more competence! 

[Frogie]

8 minutes ago, Dalalea said:

 

Yes! I know what you mean. When things aren't too bad, I do great using my tools! Yea me! LOL

It's when drama or any kind of stress hits that I tell myself, "I don't know what to do!" or "I can't handle this!" when in reality, my tools are sitting there completely unused!

I have to find a way to go from situation to solution with more competence! 

Me too! When things are going well, I can use my tools. But like this morning drama hit and I didn't know what to do except try not to cry. When that happens I immediately get nauseous and can't think straight. When you figure out how to go from situation to solution with more competence will you teach me? You are really off your meds? Lucky you! I don't think this nightmare is ever going to end for me. But I look back a year ago, and I am so far along. I just can't give up.

[Dalalea]

1 minute ago, Frogie said:

But I look back a year ago, and I am so far along. I just can't give up.

Right there is one of my most powerful tools! I call it counting my blessings but basically it's listing the good things and recounting them when I'm down. I sound like such an expert but I forget to do this so easily!

 

I am off the meds but only because I didn't research and just tapered myself off over two months. Little did I know what would be ahead of me two months down the line! Too late to reinstate, so I just had to experience withdrawal at a much greater strength than if I'd tapered very slowly. (maybe, no one really knows, do they?)

 

I'm so sorry that you're having so much nausea! Some symptoms are  easier to ignore but, not that one! I'm praying you get over that horrible feeling very soon!

You've inspired me to look closer at my toolbox. 

No matter how we feel at the moment, we are purposefully taking steps in the right direction, so we can say, "We are healing!"

[Frogie]

21 minutes ago, Dalalea said:

Right there is one of my most powerful tools! I call it counting my blessings but basically it's listing the good things and recounting them when I'm down. I sound like such an expert but I forget to do this so easily!

 

I am off the meds but only because I didn't research and just tapered myself off over two months. Little did I know what would be ahead of me two months down the line! Too late to reinstate, so I just had to experience withdrawal at a much greater strength than if I'd tapered very slowly. (maybe, no one really knows, do they?)

 

I'm so sorry that you're having so much nausea! Some symptoms are  easier to ignore but, not that one! I'm praying you get over that horrible feeling very soon!

You've inspired me to look closer at my toolbox. 

No matter how we feel at the moment, we are purposefully taking steps in the right direction, so we can say, "We are healing!"

I've made a lot of mistakes in my taper. My problem is I get a lot of nausea, but I just learn to live with it. I don't work, so I just sit at home. Gets very boring. Did you or do you get nausea? It's just awful. Sometimes I'll go weeks without it, then something triggers me, and I'm nauseous for days.

 

I see you are from Kansas?  You can PM me and we can talk. That would probably be better than talking about it on my thread.

 

I need to write things down too. There really wasn't a reason for me to get so upset over this thing this morning, if I would have thought I wouldn't be paying for it by being nauseous now.

 

Yesterday I cried. Don't know why, but everyone says it's healthy and gets everything out. So I guess I'm ok.

 

PM if you want and tell me where in kansas you are and a little about yourself. I look forward to it.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

[Flowers]

Hi Frogie

 

Hope you are feeling a bit better today and not so tearful.

 

Have you been on the bike yet?

 

It's bedtime for me here. Just going to let the dogs out first. They are Coco and Bailey. 

 

Speak soon.

 

Love from Flowers xxx

 

 

[Frogie]

5 minutes ago, Flowers said:

Hi Frogie

 

Hope you are feeling a bit better today and not so tearful.

 

Have you been on the bike yet?

 

It's bedtime for me here. Just going to let the dogs out first. They are Coco and Bailey. 

 

Speak soon.

 

Love from Flowers xxx

 

 

I guess I'm better today. Haven't cried, but have had to spend most of the day on the phone trying to straighten out an eBay order. What day and time is it there? It's Wednesday, March 7 at 3:15pm here where I live.

 

Give Coco and Bailey hugs from Brownie.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Flowers]

16 minutes ago, Frogie said:

I guess I'm better today. Haven't cried, but have had to spend most of the day on the phone trying to straighten out an eBay order. What day and time is it there? It's Wednesday, March 7 at 3:15pm here where I live.

 

Give Coco and Bailey hugs from Brownie.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

Glad you are better today but annoying having to deal with all those phone calls.

 

We are Weds March 7 at 11.30 pm so we are 8 hours ahead of you.

 

Off to bed now!

 

Coco and Bailey are now drenched as it is raining heavily outside! They send hugs back to Brownie!

 

Love from Flowers xxx