Moderator Emeritus tezza Posted February 8, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 8, 2013 Hi Nikki, First of all, thank you for the sweet comments, I picture you the same way. Yes I've tapered from 3 mg Xanax to .5, from 3 SOMAS to 3/4 of one,from 200 mg of Lamictal to 6.25mg, from 30 mg of Remeron to 4.4mg, from 1mg of Risperdal to .2 mg, from 300 mg gabapentin to 0 and 300 mg of Trileptal to 0 since July 2011. It's just by the grace of God, that's the only explanation. I have no real life friends so I depend on God ALOT. I just always knew Him. I think it has something to do with a near death experience I had as an infant. I talked about it in the reincarnation thread. He was so real to me from my earliest childhood memories. I was so much younger than my two brothers, I was like an only child. I've been alone most of my life. God has been my friend. He has given me such a love for ALL people and has given me a heart that yearns to help others. Currently, I'm tapering the Risperdal and remeron. Hugs http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1644-tezza-risperdal-withdrawal/ Seroquel and Mirtazipine Link to comment
Nikki Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 I rely heavily on HP (Higher Power). Girl you need to get out there. Go to Bible Study or something like that and you will meet people. You have so much to offer. I do have friends, but I have been so busy it has been hard to see alot of them. I am always needing to return phone calls too. Deep inside I am a loner I think. I can isolate, but over the years I want to be out. Not bars, clubs or any of that. The Beach, pool, Al-anon meetings, brunch, lunch with friends. Movies, etc. I am hoping to see Joel Osteen in Miami in April if I can get anyone to go with me. If ind him to be very positive and uplifting. In the morning I know I can log onto my FB account and read some very uplifting quotes which is helpful. Okay.............................. My chihuahua keeps waking me up. I am dead tired. And then there is my daughter who comes into my bathroom while I am in bed, looking for brushes, moisturizer, whatever. :blink: I locked the door last night and she was knocking on the door asking why I locked to the door. Celeste: So you wouldn't wake me up I guess that plan failed miserably. TGIF Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/ Paxil 1997-2004 Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries Lexapro 40mgs Lexapro taper (2years) Imipramine Imipramine and Celexa Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each 45mgs. Serzone 50mgs. Imipramine Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus tezza Posted February 8, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 8, 2013 I do go to church, I just don't seem to fit very well in this one, but it's where my husband likes to go. I've been to lots of other churches, though, and it's kinda been that way all my life. I must be a loner. I record Joel Osteen every week. He is VERY motivational! Thankfully, my dacha-huahua will sleep till I get ready to get up. She's getting old (11 ppl yrs) and that makes me a lil sad sometimes. I hope you have a wonderful weekend!!! http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1644-tezza-risperdal-withdrawal/ Seroquel and Mirtazipine Link to comment
Barbarannamated Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Tezza, I don't fit in at churches and have had a few negative experiences with gossip in Women's Ministries and bad behavior by pastors. I naively expected better behavior given the setting. Just to say... you're not alone. B Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc). Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus tezza Posted February 8, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 8, 2013 Thanks, Barb....hope you're doing well today. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1644-tezza-risperdal-withdrawal/ Seroquel and Mirtazipine Link to comment
Administrator Karma Posted February 10, 2013 Administrator Share Posted February 10, 2013 Hey Nikki This may be obvious, but did you tell your daughter that you were very tired and need the disruptions to stop? Did you tell her that when she comes into your bathroom she wakes you up and you can't have that right now? Just asking ... in the field I work in I frequently find that people get upset about others' behavior and then I learn that they haven't stated directly what behavior they need to change. I'm very direct, but sometimes I find that I haven't stated what I need either. I agree with Dalsaan, is there a way to get a copy of the text messages from the x boyfriend? I would see if the cellular company could burn a copy to a disk or something and then I would change the phone number and limit who had access to it. Sending you love, light, healing energy, strength and courage. Karma 2007 @ 375 mg Effexor - 11/29/2011 - 43.75 mg Effexor (regular) & .625 mg Xanax 200 mg Gabapentin 2/27/21 - 194.5 mg, 5/28/21 - 183 mg, 8/2/21 - 170 mg, 11/28/21 - 150 mg, 4/19/22 - 122 mg; 8//7/22 - 100 mg; 12/17 - 75mg; 8/17 - 45 mg; 10/16 40 mg Xanax taper: 3/11/12 - 0.9375 mg, 3/25/12 - 0.875 mg, 4/6/12 - 0.8125 mg, 4/18/12 - 0.75 ; 10/16 40mg; 1/16 0.6875 mg; at some point 0.625 mg Effexor taper: 1/29/12 - 40.625 mg, 4/29/12 - 39.875 mg, 5/11/12 - Switched to liquid Effexor, 5/25/12 - 38 mg, 7/6/12 - 35 mg, 8/17/12 - 32 mg, 9/14/12 - 30 mg, 10/19/12 - 28 mg, 11/9/12 - 26 mg, 11/30/12 - 24 mg, 01/14/13 - 22 mg. 02/25/13 - 20.8 mg, 03/18/13 - 19.2 mg, 4/15/13 - 17.6 mg, 8/10/13 - 16.4 mg, 9/7/13 - 15.2 mg, 10/19/13 - 14 mg, 1/15/14 - 13.2 mg, 3/1/2014 - 12.6 mg, 5/4/14 - 12 mg, 8/1/14 - 11.4 mg, 8/29/14 - 10.8 mg; 10/14/14 - 10.2 mg; 12/15/14 - 10 mg, 1/11/15 - 9.5 mg, 2/8/15 - 9 mg, 3/21/15 - 8.5 mg, 5/1/15 - 8 mg, 6/9/15 - 7.5 mg, 7/8/15 - 7 mg, 8/22/15 - 6.5 mg, 10/4/15 - 6 mg; 1/1/16 - 5.6 mg; 2/6/16 - 5.2 mg; 4/9 - 4.8 mg; 7/7 4.5 mg; 10/7 4.25 mg; 11/4 4.0 mg; 11/25 3.8 mg; 4/24 3.6 mg; 5/27 3.4 mg; 7/8 3.2 mg ... 10/18 2.8 mg; 1/18 2.6 mg; 4/7 2.4 mg; 5/26 2.15mg; 8/18 1.85 mg; 10/7 1.7 mg; 12/1 1.45 mg; 3/2 1.2 mg; 5/4 0.90 mg; 6/1 0.80 mg; 6/22 0.65 mg; 08/03 0.50 mg, 08/10 0.45 mg, 10/05 0.325 mg, 11/23 0.2 mg, 12/14 0.15 mg, 12/21 0.125 mg, 02/28 0.03125 mg, 2/15 0.015625 mg, 2/29/20 0.00 mg - OFF Effexor I am not a medical professional - this is not medical advice. My suggestions are based on personal experience, reading, observation and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers Link to comment
Nikki Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 Hi Karma how are you doing? Yes Karma I have told her what seems like 1000 times. She finally stopped. As for the knucklehead former boyfriend. The Police do not want her to change he number right now. She is contacting his folks in an attempt to get them to speak to him....we shall see. Apparently he gets inebriated and has telephoneitis. He is rather disgusting and I would love to slap him. He does not have a car, so he is not around here. I asked my daughter what the lesson is here? To be very discerning about getting involved. I want to speak or text him back myself. Not in a nasty manner, just to tell him to move on. Sometimes when they hear it from someone else (if they can) it sets in. Hugs everyone Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/ Paxil 1997-2004 Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries Lexapro 40mgs Lexapro taper (2years) Imipramine Imipramine and Celexa Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each 45mgs. Serzone 50mgs. Imipramine Link to comment
Administrator Karma Posted February 10, 2013 Administrator Share Posted February 10, 2013 Hi Nikki You are a very supportive, Mom . I don't have kids so I forget that sometimes when you tell them something it goes in one ear and out the other . Good for you pointing out to your daughter that there is a lesson in this uncomfortable situation with her boyfriend. Karma 2007 @ 375 mg Effexor - 11/29/2011 - 43.75 mg Effexor (regular) & .625 mg Xanax 200 mg Gabapentin 2/27/21 - 194.5 mg, 5/28/21 - 183 mg, 8/2/21 - 170 mg, 11/28/21 - 150 mg, 4/19/22 - 122 mg; 8//7/22 - 100 mg; 12/17 - 75mg; 8/17 - 45 mg; 10/16 40 mg Xanax taper: 3/11/12 - 0.9375 mg, 3/25/12 - 0.875 mg, 4/6/12 - 0.8125 mg, 4/18/12 - 0.75 ; 10/16 40mg; 1/16 0.6875 mg; at some point 0.625 mg Effexor taper: 1/29/12 - 40.625 mg, 4/29/12 - 39.875 mg, 5/11/12 - Switched to liquid Effexor, 5/25/12 - 38 mg, 7/6/12 - 35 mg, 8/17/12 - 32 mg, 9/14/12 - 30 mg, 10/19/12 - 28 mg, 11/9/12 - 26 mg, 11/30/12 - 24 mg, 01/14/13 - 22 mg. 02/25/13 - 20.8 mg, 03/18/13 - 19.2 mg, 4/15/13 - 17.6 mg, 8/10/13 - 16.4 mg, 9/7/13 - 15.2 mg, 10/19/13 - 14 mg, 1/15/14 - 13.2 mg, 3/1/2014 - 12.6 mg, 5/4/14 - 12 mg, 8/1/14 - 11.4 mg, 8/29/14 - 10.8 mg; 10/14/14 - 10.2 mg; 12/15/14 - 10 mg, 1/11/15 - 9.5 mg, 2/8/15 - 9 mg, 3/21/15 - 8.5 mg, 5/1/15 - 8 mg, 6/9/15 - 7.5 mg, 7/8/15 - 7 mg, 8/22/15 - 6.5 mg, 10/4/15 - 6 mg; 1/1/16 - 5.6 mg; 2/6/16 - 5.2 mg; 4/9 - 4.8 mg; 7/7 4.5 mg; 10/7 4.25 mg; 11/4 4.0 mg; 11/25 3.8 mg; 4/24 3.6 mg; 5/27 3.4 mg; 7/8 3.2 mg ... 10/18 2.8 mg; 1/18 2.6 mg; 4/7 2.4 mg; 5/26 2.15mg; 8/18 1.85 mg; 10/7 1.7 mg; 12/1 1.45 mg; 3/2 1.2 mg; 5/4 0.90 mg; 6/1 0.80 mg; 6/22 0.65 mg; 08/03 0.50 mg, 08/10 0.45 mg, 10/05 0.325 mg, 11/23 0.2 mg, 12/14 0.15 mg, 12/21 0.125 mg, 02/28 0.03125 mg, 2/15 0.015625 mg, 2/29/20 0.00 mg - OFF Effexor I am not a medical professional - this is not medical advice. My suggestions are based on personal experience, reading, observation and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers Link to comment
Sunita Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Hi Nikki, I looked for your introduction thread so I can follow your progress. Are you on 25mg Celexa now? It sounds like you have been through a lot of very stressful life circumstances recently--you must be a very strong person! Just wanted to wish you luck and offer my support in your process. Sunita I started taking Celexa in 2007 for anxiety, depression and PTSD. I started at 10mg and eventually increased to 40mg. I am currently tapering off Celexa. 1/22, 40 to 30mg. 1/29, 30 to 20mg. 2/5, 20 to 10mg. 2/19 to 5mg. 2/26 stopped taking. Link to comment
Nikki Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Hi Sunita.... I did post this morning on your thread so I won't repeat myself here. I don't know how long it is going to take me to get off Celexa. I do know from past ssri WD's that the lower doses can be a bit tough. However that doesn't mean it will be that way this time around. To be honest Sunita, I have been wondering if I should stay off the site for awhile. I am not really having a hard time with WD and there is something nagging at me about reading and truly feeling bad for those here that are suffering. I have been there and it really is a suffering that is difficult to put into words. I have been wondering if I should just stick to reading and listening to more positive things. Books, CD's, etc. I want to keep my mind on "mountain get out of my way" instead of worrying that the poop will hit the fan with this WD. What we focus on the most is what we tend to create more of type of thing. I am very fond of the people here and you will be too. I am just so grateful to be doing a smooth taper. There is WD when I drop the dose but it passes quickly due to the imipramine and me being a busy lady. Busy is good, physical movement is good for me too. Hugs Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/ Paxil 1997-2004 Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries Lexapro 40mgs Lexapro taper (2years) Imipramine Imipramine and Celexa Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each 45mgs. Serzone 50mgs. Imipramine Link to comment
Sunita Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Hi Nikki, so glad you're having a smooth taper. I feel too that I'm having a smoother taper that many people on this site. The more stories I read the more empathetic I feel because obviously there are many wonderful, caring people here and it's not fair that they should go through this. For me too, the key is being physically active and busy. Exercise has always been the #1 thing that helps me with depression, and it's helped immensely with tapering too. If you're having a relatively easy taper, that's wonderful. I do have friends who had easy tapers off of Celexa so it does happen. I was having an easy taper until I perhaps did too big a cut from 20mg to 10mg. Even so, I feel my symptoms are manageable. I'd done a lot of research before tapering so I was braced for what I experienced--the anxiety, obsessive thoughts, confusion, etc. As long as I know it's withdrawal and nothing real, I can handle it. I think if you need a break from the site, do what's best for yourself. It's true that reading other people's withdrawal stories can make you worry more and it's great to just have something positive or distracting to focus on. Sunita I started taking Celexa in 2007 for anxiety, depression and PTSD. I started at 10mg and eventually increased to 40mg. I am currently tapering off Celexa. 1/22, 40 to 30mg. 1/29, 30 to 20mg. 2/5, 20 to 10mg. 2/19 to 5mg. 2/26 stopped taking. Link to comment
Nikki Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 UTI again....got to get to doctor this morning. Is there a mercury retrograde going on? Hugs Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/ Paxil 1997-2004 Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries Lexapro 40mgs Lexapro taper (2years) Imipramine Imipramine and Celexa Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each 45mgs. Serzone 50mgs. Imipramine Link to comment
Nikki Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 Will see doctor at 10am. Have to push back clients today. I am now not sure if I have urethra spasms alone or spasms from an infection. Need treat both, felt this coming on. Not is such a good space today. Have to push past it. Have been dissecting myself in the last two days to uncover things so I can go on into a happier, worry free state of mine. "The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again, expecting different results." There are patterns I have not yet broken or changed which I am holding myself hostage with. Anyone else? Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/ Paxil 1997-2004 Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries Lexapro 40mgs Lexapro taper (2years) Imipramine Imipramine and Celexa Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each 45mgs. Serzone 50mgs. Imipramine Link to comment
Nikki Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 Need to talk. Went to doctor & I do have another UTI. Back on meds. Found out my BP was thru the roof. Need to see Internist about that. Scared me. I am not in such a good space, want to cry. I guess it's frustration, fear, worry.... I am trying to practice gratitude and it's not coming up. Dropped the Celexa 15 days ago. I don't know where to begin. I am working very hard. The work itself is physical labor. I added TJMaxx to the mix for extra money, and that is even harder than my own work. Was putting money away and then, BOOM the refrigerator goes. Put in a new garbage disposal and then the water wasn't draining from Dishwasher. My neighbor came over. It was a simple fix. The plug was not removed from garbage disposal. Must get car serviced. New tires, radiator issue. Another huge bill. Ticket to pay. Paid it. They sent the check back. Said it was the wrong address. Celexa - Blood Pressure Meds - Antibiotics - Fluconazole - Pyridium. Drugs and more drugs. I really need to go to an Al-Anon meeting. I have hardly been going. Doubting what I am doing. I really thought I was n the right path, and now I don't know. I don't seen anyone anymore. I just work and take care of responsibilities. Oh yes, need to go to the Dentist. Two loose crowns. Another whopping bill. It never ends. Maybe I should have journaled about this first. I have been looking (not that much) for a job t replace TJMaxx because I work so hard and the pay is lousy. Please God don't let anything break for a long time. Just realizing that I don't talk to my friends anymore. No phone calls. I cope by myself. Why the hell am I not calling them? I need them. Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/ Paxil 1997-2004 Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries Lexapro 40mgs Lexapro taper (2years) Imipramine Imipramine and Celexa Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each 45mgs. Serzone 50mgs. Imipramine Link to comment
Nikki Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 Wondering if t here is a Mercury Retrograde up in the Heavens. Anything mechanical goes haywire during a retrograde. Handle went on microwave. Neighbor will fix it. So I can hold off on that. I did go to a meeting this morning and saw some of my friends and was so glad I did. I cried. Cried on the phone to a friend. Still a bit weepy. I know I am dead tired. The wires in my head feel unplugged. Depressed. Read about neuro-motions this morning. I think this is real stuff and I am just frustrated with my own life. I want someone to 'resuce me' but it's all up to me. There is no one. I envy the married people on the site. I remember when I was married, thinking how nice it was to have a safety net. I hope I am not sounding like a total lunatic, but I sure feel like on A depressed lunatic Hugs Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/ Paxil 1997-2004 Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries Lexapro 40mgs Lexapro taper (2years) Imipramine Imipramine and Celexa Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each 45mgs. Serzone 50mgs. Imipramine Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus strawberry17 Posted February 16, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 16, 2013 Nikki, oh no another UTI, not surprised you're SO fed up. You always strike me as someone who has too much on her plate. I'm glad you did make the time to see some friends and have a good cry. I wish I could gallop in on my charger with my lance and shield and rescue you, but I suspect I'm not what you'd be looking for anyway . No you don't sound like a lunatic, just someone who's having a hard time (((hugs))) *** Please note this is not medical advice,discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner***http://prozacwithdrawal.blogspot.com/ Original drug was sertraline/Zoloft, switched to Prozac in 2007. Tapering from 5mls liquid prozac since Feb 2008, got down to 0.85ml 23/09/2012, reinstated back to 1ml(4mg) 07/11/2012, didn't appear to work, upped to 1.05ml 17/11/2012, back down to 1ml 12/12/2012 didn't work, up to 1.30ml 16/3/2013 didn't work, bumped up to 2ml (8mg) 4/4/2013 didn't work, in July 2013 I reinstated Sertraline (Zoloft) 50mg, feeling better now. A few months down the line I switched to 5ml liquid Prozac and tapered down to a compromise dose of 3ml liquid Prozac and have stayed there ever since, no withdrawals and no emotional blunting/loss of libido. Link to comment
hippopotamus Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I'm really sorry to read you're having such a hard time. You dont sound like a lunatic at all. I think anyone in a situation like yours would feel depressed. I wish there was something I could for you. I'm sending you lots and lots of positive financial energy and good health... Hug! Hippo Have been on Seroquel XR from 2008. Dosages have fluctuated quite a bit. Rough guess: I've been on 250-300-350-400-450-500 mg from 2009-summer 2012. Started tapering july 2012 with cuts of 50 mg. By then I had been on 450 mg for a while. October 2012: 200 mg. Due to flu-like WD reinstated to 250 mg nov 12th. Link to comment
Nikki Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Hoping someone is on the site... I am a total wreck. I really am not sure if this is WD and some other stuff. I am scheduled to work at TJMaxx today, tomorrow and Mondays from 1 to 10:30pm. I asked them ot to put me on the schedule for Saturdays. I wanted to give myself at least one day off during the week. Between my business and TJMaxx I have been working 7 days a week. I want to call out this morning, but I am afraid to. I never call in sick. I am full of anxiety. Depressed or down. Worried sick over things. Very, very tired. Bad headache. Had tiny amount of shakes when I woke up (just for a few seconds). Feel like I have to sit down or lay down. Could the antibiotics be contributing to this. Nurse said infection was bad. Alot of blood in urine. Taking Keflex every 6 hours. Pyridium for two days for spasms. OR is this delayed WD? I am sitting here wanting to call out, but too afraid to do it. Please, I am a wreck since yesterday. Need some advise. Celeste Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/ Paxil 1997-2004 Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries Lexapro 40mgs Lexapro taper (2years) Imipramine Imipramine and Celexa Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each 45mgs. Serzone 50mgs. Imipramine Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus strawberry17 Posted February 16, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 16, 2013 This was me last year, yes you never take days off sick, I'm guessing calling out means calling in sick, do it, even if you tell a white lie and say you have a bad cold, you are clearly not well enough to go in. I'm the same, I'm rarely off sick, one of those who soldiers on, but it's not always a good way to be. Give yourself some breathing space. For what it's worth it does sound like a withdrawal but it's hard to tell isn't it? *** Please note this is not medical advice,discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner***http://prozacwithdrawal.blogspot.com/ Original drug was sertraline/Zoloft, switched to Prozac in 2007. Tapering from 5mls liquid prozac since Feb 2008, got down to 0.85ml 23/09/2012, reinstated back to 1ml(4mg) 07/11/2012, didn't appear to work, upped to 1.05ml 17/11/2012, back down to 1ml 12/12/2012 didn't work, up to 1.30ml 16/3/2013 didn't work, bumped up to 2ml (8mg) 4/4/2013 didn't work, in July 2013 I reinstated Sertraline (Zoloft) 50mg, feeling better now. A few months down the line I switched to 5ml liquid Prozac and tapered down to a compromise dose of 3ml liquid Prozac and have stayed there ever since, no withdrawals and no emotional blunting/loss of libido. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus strawberry17 Posted February 16, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 16, 2013 Wish I could do something practical for you like make you a nice cup of tea and sit down for a chat or a cry. *** Please note this is not medical advice,discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner***http://prozacwithdrawal.blogspot.com/ Original drug was sertraline/Zoloft, switched to Prozac in 2007. Tapering from 5mls liquid prozac since Feb 2008, got down to 0.85ml 23/09/2012, reinstated back to 1ml(4mg) 07/11/2012, didn't appear to work, upped to 1.05ml 17/11/2012, back down to 1ml 12/12/2012 didn't work, up to 1.30ml 16/3/2013 didn't work, bumped up to 2ml (8mg) 4/4/2013 didn't work, in July 2013 I reinstated Sertraline (Zoloft) 50mg, feeling better now. A few months down the line I switched to 5ml liquid Prozac and tapered down to a compromise dose of 3ml liquid Prozac and have stayed there ever since, no withdrawals and no emotional blunting/loss of libido. Link to comment
Nikki Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Strawberry.... I just called in to work and told them I can't come in with an explanation of UTI. Can you tell me if you think I am having some WD issues. Mind is racing 100 miles per hour. My blood pressure is very high. Will pick up HBP medicine in addition to the one I am currently taking. Thank you Hugs Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/ Paxil 1997-2004 Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries Lexapro 40mgs Lexapro taper (2years) Imipramine Imipramine and Celexa Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each 45mgs. Serzone 50mgs. Imipramine Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus strawberry17 Posted February 16, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 16, 2013 It sounds like a withdrawal but you've got other health issues going on I couldn't say, except that I see you dropped Celexa 15 days ago but I don't know how much you dropped, the mind racing and distress sounds like a withdrawal doesn't it? I'm so glad you phoned in sick, you need to be kind to yourself. *** Please note this is not medical advice,discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner***http://prozacwithdrawal.blogspot.com/ Original drug was sertraline/Zoloft, switched to Prozac in 2007. Tapering from 5mls liquid prozac since Feb 2008, got down to 0.85ml 23/09/2012, reinstated back to 1ml(4mg) 07/11/2012, didn't appear to work, upped to 1.05ml 17/11/2012, back down to 1ml 12/12/2012 didn't work, up to 1.30ml 16/3/2013 didn't work, bumped up to 2ml (8mg) 4/4/2013 didn't work, in July 2013 I reinstated Sertraline (Zoloft) 50mg, feeling better now. A few months down the line I switched to 5ml liquid Prozac and tapered down to a compromise dose of 3ml liquid Prozac and have stayed there ever since, no withdrawals and no emotional blunting/loss of libido. Link to comment
Nikki Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Strawberry thank you for replying. I called in.....guilt ensues because I am overly responsible. I went to my Al-Anon meeting on Juno Beach under the Pier. As usual it was gorgeous (chilly) and saw all of my friends. We always have Breakfast afterwards. I shared t the meeting which helps. At breakfast I shared with my friends about how I am feeling and what is going on. My friend who is a retired psych nurse said "Celeste you are depressed and anxious." "You dropped the dose of your medication and you are feeling the effects." She used her hands to describe the differences at being depressed vs. being okay. _______________________able to cope and use recovery tools to overcome and cope with problems in life. _______________________when depressed, we are down at this level and here is where we can't use recovery tools, see the light, all into self-doubt, etc. She asked me to look inside and ask myself 'why' I always look to lower medications even when I am doing well. I told her I have a shame issue and it is difficult for me to lose weight on ssri's. And she asked me something which got me very teared up. What is it deep down inside that you will not allow yourself to be happy, or stay on celexa/impramine. I realized that I push and push myself because I feel that I have failed myself on various levels/areas in my life and I am seeking to perfect those flaws or mistakes I have made in the past. Additionally I am on a mission to create a better life for myself and attain the success I believe I can reach. This is admirable the other is not. Very eye opening and I thanked her for her insights and allowing me to see where I have been at. I am constantly trying to force solutions. The last several times I dropped Celexa I really was okay. I didn't really experience what I am experiencing now. The dose of 30mgs. Celexa and 30mgs. Imipramine which I was at for a long time was fine. I am contemplating gong back up in dose from 25mgs. Celexa to 30mgs. OR.....should I ride this out? Hugs Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/ Paxil 1997-2004 Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries Lexapro 40mgs Lexapro taper (2years) Imipramine Imipramine and Celexa Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each 45mgs. Serzone 50mgs. Imipramine Link to comment
Barbarannamated Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Nikki, I think your nurse friend brought forward a very important point. You answered your own question (above) and then asked again at the end. I say this with love. B Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc). Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus strawberry17 Posted February 16, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 16, 2013 Nikki Much as I desperately want to get off my last bit of Prozac, after what happened at the end of last year, I keep asking myself these questions about am I doing the right thing? should I be forcing myself off the last bit at any cost? is it possible I'll be on 4mg Prozac for, well maybe the rest of my life? I just don't know anymore. The nurse friend asked you some important questions in a way, should you come off drugs at any cost? or is there a compromise somewhere? who knows? I recognise the guilt over calling in sick to work as well, somehow it feels valid if it's a "real" physical illness, and I feel a bit of a fraud if it's the mental issues, like you I'm a bit of a perfectionist and pride myself on going whole years without a sick day, my upbringing was of a very British stiff upper lip, don't show your emotions, always fulfill your duty/obligations and soldier on regardless variety, which makes me very very reliable and stoic, but means I find it very hard to be kind to myself and let myself have a sick day without feeling guilty, you sound like that as well. With the Celexa, if you went from 30mg to 25mg in one go, that's quite a big cut, or did you get to 25mg gradually? you've had a lot of illness since before Christmas, flu and infections, and external stressers in your life, those things would pull most people down anyway without the celexa reduction. ((((hugs))))and you know what, we could really do with a cuppa tea symbol on here. strawberry *** Please note this is not medical advice,discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner***http://prozacwithdrawal.blogspot.com/ Original drug was sertraline/Zoloft, switched to Prozac in 2007. Tapering from 5mls liquid prozac since Feb 2008, got down to 0.85ml 23/09/2012, reinstated back to 1ml(4mg) 07/11/2012, didn't appear to work, upped to 1.05ml 17/11/2012, back down to 1ml 12/12/2012 didn't work, up to 1.30ml 16/3/2013 didn't work, bumped up to 2ml (8mg) 4/4/2013 didn't work, in July 2013 I reinstated Sertraline (Zoloft) 50mg, feeling better now. A few months down the line I switched to 5ml liquid Prozac and tapered down to a compromise dose of 3ml liquid Prozac and have stayed there ever since, no withdrawals and no emotional blunting/loss of libido. Link to comment
Nikki Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Barb and Strawberry love you too We know so much about one another and yet we have never met. This is the marvel of a Fellowship like this one and Al-anon and AA. I dropped 5mgs. each time I dropped: 40mgs. down to 35 down to 30 down to 25. This is the first time I had a problem. It's not horrible like it was with Lexapro, but it has surfaced after approximately 12-15 days. I am on a high dose of Kelfex (antibiotic) for the Bladder Infection. I had to take Pyridium too for spasms. Yes, last week my daughter reported her former boyfriend for harassing her on Facebook. Yes the refrigerator went. Yes I laid out alot of money and worked almost 21 days without a day off. Like my friend said when this stuff crops up and your depressed, coping skills exit. When feeling well or balanced, I can go into my toolbox of coping skills and use them. The feeling I have in my body is that insidious sickly feeling that I've had in the past from Anxiety and a Low Grade Depression, and the crying. Sux Thank you for your patience and compassion. I needed to work this out even if it was like a lunatic Hugs Back to TJMaxx tomorrow PS I am running out of options in the antibiotic arena. I have an immunity to several drugs. The doctor wants me to void every hour on the hour while on this medication. It's virtually impossible to go to the Restroom at TJ. I work in Jewelry and it can never be left. Someone must be there and they can't always send someone over. In addition to being 5 customers deep at the counter. Drinking alot of water, so I do have to run to the Loo alot anyway. Taking Fluconazole as well. Keeping up with Probiotics. Too much medication! And ssri's do create drug sensitivities...I believe this. TMI - probably:) Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/ Paxil 1997-2004 Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries Lexapro 40mgs Lexapro taper (2years) Imipramine Imipramine and Celexa Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each 45mgs. Serzone 50mgs. Imipramine Link to comment
Barbarannamated Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Fluconazole is a fairly potent antifungal with effects on liver. Possibly some metabolic complication..? Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc). Link to comment
Meimeiquest Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Nikki, Although I am a newbie, just wanted to send my caring thoughts. As far as your decision, I don't know the answer, but I do know the end goal is that we each live the best life possible. Either being on meds or being off meds might be the means to that end. When I was a nurse just out of school working nights, my mentor said When you don't know if you need to call a doctor (in the night, about a patient), just wait 30 minutes, and the answer will usually become clear. Take that metaphorically for what it's worth. And having a UTI is a totally valid reason to call off sick. So is a W/D reaction . Best, Meimeiquest 1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms. Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12 Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13 Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15 11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble) 9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol 7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol 56 years old Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus strawberry17 Posted February 17, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 17, 2013 Nikki it's such a shame you had to go back to work today, I think you would have been fully justified in still being off sick you know. Hopefully it will be a quiet day at work. With regards to the withdrawal, could you go up 5mgs? see if that clears the racing mind? I have made many wonderful friends going through my withdrawal, and I would love to meet them all in person, the internet has been a miracle for me, finding out I'm not the only person in the world going through this. *** Please note this is not medical advice,discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner***http://prozacwithdrawal.blogspot.com/ Original drug was sertraline/Zoloft, switched to Prozac in 2007. Tapering from 5mls liquid prozac since Feb 2008, got down to 0.85ml 23/09/2012, reinstated back to 1ml(4mg) 07/11/2012, didn't appear to work, upped to 1.05ml 17/11/2012, back down to 1ml 12/12/2012 didn't work, up to 1.30ml 16/3/2013 didn't work, bumped up to 2ml (8mg) 4/4/2013 didn't work, in July 2013 I reinstated Sertraline (Zoloft) 50mg, feeling better now. A few months down the line I switched to 5ml liquid Prozac and tapered down to a compromise dose of 3ml liquid Prozac and have stayed there ever since, no withdrawals and no emotional blunting/loss of libido. Link to comment
hippopotamus Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Hi Nikki, Have you thought about trying to use natural antibiotics? Cocos-oil for example seems to possess broad antibiotical characteristics: http://coconutoil.com/coconut-oil-offers-hope-for-antibiotic-resistant-germs/ You'd have to find out how much of it you should take daily for it to be effective. I once read something about needing to take 30 grams per day for treating Lyme's disease. Wishing you lots of good-health energy! Hippo Have been on Seroquel XR from 2008. Dosages have fluctuated quite a bit. Rough guess: I've been on 250-300-350-400-450-500 mg from 2009-summer 2012. Started tapering july 2012 with cuts of 50 mg. By then I had been on 450 mg for a while. October 2012: 200 mg. Due to flu-like WD reinstated to 250 mg nov 12th. Link to comment
flower Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Nikki, this Celexa is such wicked stuff. I swear,when these drugs were made,we weren't meant to ever get off them. I know you will figure this out. But maybe you need to go slower also. Even if you updose we still luv ya ladybug. C/T Celexa and Trazadone on Jan.29th 2014 Prescribed 1mg of Klonopin every 6 hours on Jan.29th Began tapering Klonopin April 18th..stretching time between doses...at first one hour for 2 weeks then a half hour for app.10 days then another half hour 10days later. Presently at .25 three times a day..6 2 and 10pm. Trying to stabilize. Also still taking gabapentin 300mgs 2xs a day.. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus tezza Posted February 17, 2013 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 17, 2013 Nikki it's such a shame you had to go back to work today, I think you would have been fully justified in still being off sick you know. Hopefully it will be a quiet day at work. With regards to the withdrawal, could you go up 5mgs? see if that clears the racing mind? I have made many wonderful friends going through my withdrawal, and I would love to meet them all in person, the internet has been a miracle for me, finding out I'm not the only person in the world going through this. I ditto every word! Wow, 21 days without a day off. No wonder everything is piling up on you. You poor dear! Hope things lighten up soon. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1644-tezza-risperdal-withdrawal/ Seroquel and Mirtazipine Link to comment
Nikki Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Thank you everyone... To be honest, every time I feel well, good, happy, I decided that is the time to start a taper. Here's the deal. The Celexa and Imipramine combo works for me. I just don't want to be on drugs. Why? Being on them feeds into an old belief that I am flawed and not wise or strong enough to fend for myself without drugs. I talk to people like I did yesterday who were kind enough to help me go deep with this and find out that they are okay with meds. It does help them. And it has helped me too. Getting off of them is where the trouble, big trouble begins. When I have experienced how bad it can be to get off of them (WD) and the suffering from WD, I think...this stuff is bad news. For now and for how long, well I am going to stay put. I just can't go into the anxiety/depression mode. It kills me and that is when I feel I'd be better off dead. I lose all hope. I can't afford to lose hope. I am looking for a better life where there is hope. Please keep your fingers crossed that the up-dose of the 5 mgs. kicks in. I did it last night. Got to get rid of this infection, lower my BP and stabilize on Celexa/Imipramine. Right now what I want is to hold someone's hand. This makes me cry. It's lonely. Before work I am going to my mother's to say hello and ask her to hold my hand. This need just brought on the tears. Hugs Does anyone know if the Keflex can cause these awful body feelings? Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/ Paxil 1997-2004 Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries Lexapro 40mgs Lexapro taper (2years) Imipramine Imipramine and Celexa Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each 45mgs. Serzone 50mgs. Imipramine Link to comment
Barbarannamated Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 ** YOU HAVE MAJOR DRUG INTERACTIONS GOING ON ** http://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=1096-0,1323-0,679-335,564-285 Interactions between your selected drugs [!!! MAJOR ] FLUCONAZOLE ↔ CITALOPRAM Talk to your doctor before using citalopram together with fluconazole. Combining these medications can raise the blood levels of citalopram and increase the risk of certain side effects, including an irregular heart rhythm that may be serious or life-threatening. Your doctor may be able to prescribe alternatives that do not interact, or you may need a dose adjustment or more frequent monitoring by your doctor to safely use both medications. You should seek immediate medical attention if you develop sudden dizziness, lightheadedness, fainting, shortness of breath, or fast or pounding heartbeats during treatment with these medications. It is important to tell your doctor about all other medications you use, including vitamins and herbs. [!!! MAJOR] IMIPRAMINE ↔ CITALOPRAM Talk to your doctor before using citalopram together with imipramine. Combining these medications can increase the risk of a rare but serious condition called the serotonin syndrome, which may include symptoms such as confusion, hallucination, seizure, extreme changes in blood pressure, increased heart rate, fever, excessive sweating , shivering or shaking, blurred vision, muscle spasm or stiffness, tremor, incoordination, stomach cramp, nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. You should contact your doctor immediately if you experience these symptoms while taking the medications. In addition, you may have an increased risk of developing an irregular heart rhythm that may be serious. Your doctor may be able to prescribe alternatives that do not interact, or you may need a dose adjustment or more frequent monitoring by your doctor to safely use both medications. You should seek immediate medical attention if you develop sudden dizziness, lightheadedness, fainting, shortness of breath, or fast or pounding heartbeats while taking the medications. It is important to tell your doctor about all other medications you use, including vitamins and herbs [!! MODERATE] FLUCONAZOLE <--> IMIPRAMINE Using imipramine together with fluconazole can increase your blood levels of imipramine. This combination may cause side effects such as drowsiness, dry mouth , blurred vision, constipation, or urinating less than usual. Talk with your doctor before using these medications together. You may need a dose adjustment or special tests to safely take both medications. It is important to tell your doctor about all other medications you use, including vitamins and herbs. Do not stop using any medications without first talking to your doctor. Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc). Link to comment
Barbarannamated Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Nikki, Imipramine causes significant urinary retention (it's used for incontinence and bedwetting). I suspect this may be contributing to your frequent UTIs. Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc). Link to comment
Nikki Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Good Grief... The fluconazole is two tablets. The other mixture might explain elevated HBP. Yes Imipramine does cause retention. I am stuck right now. Will have to copy this and other info from the website to take to psych nurse and internist. OMG Nikki Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/ Paxil 1997-2004 Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries Lexapro 40mgs Lexapro taper (2years) Imipramine Imipramine and Celexa Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each 45mgs. Serzone 50mgs. Imipramine Link to comment
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