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Ugh... That's why my husband arranged to be able to work from home. I don't have the thoughts all the time, but they hit with no warning, and I'm afraid of harming myself :(

Zoloft 100 mg. daily for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since Oct. 1994 / Synthroid 88 mcg. daily / Supplements: Neptune Krill Oil-1,000 mg. twice daily/Astaxanthin 10 mg. twice daily/Ubiquinol 100 mg. twice daily (These 3 have allowed me to discontinue (approved by doctor) bp meds I was on. Calcium Citrate 500 mg. daily/Vitamin D3 2,400 iu daily/K2 (MK7) 100 mcg daily (osteopenia and fam. hist. of severe osteoporosis). Stress B Complex (1/2 dose)/Quercetin (for allergies/asthma)/Magnesium (400 mg. oral glycinate and about 50 mg. magnesium chloride spray oil a day, divided throughout day).

Tapered Zoloft about 6 wks. Totally off since the end of July (25-29, 2014). 3 wks. vertigo at end of taper, then 3-4 wks. OK, followed by withdrawal symptoms increasing in severity (nausea, gastric disturbances, loss of appetite, insomnia, restlessness, jitters, anxiety, agitation--jumping out of my skin--possible akathisia?) Seem to have paradoxical reactions to everything new, even Vitamin C. Severity of akathisia comes and goes, but is constant to some degree. Hard to leave house, and cannot be home alone. (Retired)

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Yeah, like THAT'S likely to happen.... and if it does, well you'll just have to pay the consequences. Following lines of thought like this is useless and does you no good at all. Do you think I was immune from such thoughts? At one time I had to take all of the knives off the magnetic kitchen rack because every time my eye happened to light upon them I had horrific images of committing harm. So I hid them, problem averted and the thoughts eventually subsided. It also helped that I repeated over and over (and over) in my head either the Lord's Prayer or the 23rd Psalm. Your mind cannot hold 2 competing thoughts at the same time. Do not sit there and worry, DO SOMETHING.

 

Ok, here's your purrito (they have become my 'go to' when vexing thoughts strike!):

 

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Print all of them out and scatter them all over your house. Cut them out and paste them on your milk cartons. Glue one of them to the bottom of a glass plate (like the reverse decoupage that was popular some time ago) and put food on the plate and see the joy of uncovering one as you clean the plate. Put one under the toilet lid (or on top). The possibilities are endless. As Sparrow says, "Cute Kitten Pictures Therapy" does a world of good. We need all the help we can get.

 

(And if there are any cat haters lurking here, phooey on ya!)

What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878

 

July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site.

 

Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey.

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Yeah, actually when the akathisia ramps up and the impulse aspect of it kicks in, it is likely to happen. Normally, I wouldn't think like that :(

Zoloft 100 mg. daily for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since Oct. 1994 / Synthroid 88 mcg. daily / Supplements: Neptune Krill Oil-1,000 mg. twice daily/Astaxanthin 10 mg. twice daily/Ubiquinol 100 mg. twice daily (These 3 have allowed me to discontinue (approved by doctor) bp meds I was on. Calcium Citrate 500 mg. daily/Vitamin D3 2,400 iu daily/K2 (MK7) 100 mcg daily (osteopenia and fam. hist. of severe osteoporosis). Stress B Complex (1/2 dose)/Quercetin (for allergies/asthma)/Magnesium (400 mg. oral glycinate and about 50 mg. magnesium chloride spray oil a day, divided throughout day).

Tapered Zoloft about 6 wks. Totally off since the end of July (25-29, 2014). 3 wks. vertigo at end of taper, then 3-4 wks. OK, followed by withdrawal symptoms increasing in severity (nausea, gastric disturbances, loss of appetite, insomnia, restlessness, jitters, anxiety, agitation--jumping out of my skin--possible akathisia?) Seem to have paradoxical reactions to everything new, even Vitamin C. Severity of akathisia comes and goes, but is constant to some degree. Hard to leave house, and cannot be home alone. (Retired)

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it is likely to happen

 

No, it is not. That's what we are here for. (I hope to never see a statement like that ever again).

What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878

 

July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site.

 

Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey.

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Thanks cymbalta - it's pretty scary especially waking up to such horrific thoughts. I have the thoughts when I see the knives too and have had it on and off front the start of taking mirtazapine. I get homicidal thoughts too...they are the absolute worse!!! It's no wonder their are so many shootings at schools in America - they were all on these mind altering drugs!

 

You have really helped me, thank you... I don't feel so crazy now!

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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It comes with the territory. This too shall pass.

What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878

 

July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site.

 

Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey.

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Actually Cymbaltawithdrawal5600 is the one who made the suggestion, but I try to stay occupied in this way as well. Whatever works. I love to read too, but between my brain and the akathisia, that's not working for me too well now!

I struggle to read anything other than drug related stuff. I've tried but I think that's all part of withdrawal.

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg; 4/27/24: 1.06 mg; 5/4/24: 1.04 mg; 5/11/24: 1.01 mg; 5/18/24: .99 mg

 

 

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Actually Cymbaltawithdrawal5600 is the one who made the suggestion, but I try to stay occupied in this way as well. Whatever works. I love to read too, but between my brain and the akathisia, that's not working for me too well now!

I struggle to read anything other than drug related stuff. I've tried but I think that's all part of withdrawal.

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg; 4/27/24: 1.06 mg; 5/4/24: 1.04 mg; 5/11/24: 1.01 mg; 5/18/24: .99 mg

 

 

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I have the same problem, Muddles. When I am feeling badly I become obsessed with reading withdrawal related stuff. I seem to be able to concentrate on that but other things I read, not as much, although I am trying.

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg; 4/27/24: 1.06 mg; 5/4/24: 1.04 mg; 5/11/24: 1.01 mg; 5/18/24: .99 mg

 

 

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I have the same problem, Muddles. When I am feeling badly I become obsessed with reading withdrawal related stuff. I seem to be able to concentrate on that but other things I read, not as much, although I am trying.

it's because we cannot think of anything else! Let's face it...I'm sure there are lots of other stuff we would much rather be reading or doing...it's definetely withdrawal! Hang in there.

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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I get these horrid thoughts as well and they scare the crap outta me. I get scared to be around my kids because I am scared i will go crazy. I understand. But if we are all having similar issues then it must be part of the withdrawals. I hope it passes sooner than later.

2002-put on amitryptiline for fibromyalgia. 10mg.2004-stopped abruptly. Didn't think it helped.2006 approx.-put on Paxil for mild anxiety 20 mg.2007 upped to 40 mg. not sure why.2011- tapered from 40 to 10. went nuts and went back to 20mg2014- tapered from 20mg to 0 from April to The end of June.current meds- Metformin(type 2 diabetic) and low dose aspirin.Take multi vitamin and vit b12, vit. D and magnesium. 5 months off Paxil. Still suffering.recently added 1.2mg of Paxil to alleviate withdrawals.(Nov 30)Dropped to .9mg because having symptoms from reinstatement.(dec 23)<p>taper to .76mg-.8mg (Feb 3) approx. weight .010 to about .008-.009 on scale.
.6mg (march 19th.) .5mg(April 19th)
.4mg(April 27th)
.2 (June 27th)

0mg.  done taper at beginning of August.

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Sorry *definitely*. It sure is withdrawal - I never have doubted that! Hope your shopping trip went ok.

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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I didn't have a panick attack and made it home ok thx for asking. Kinda proud of myself.

2002-put on amitryptiline for fibromyalgia. 10mg.2004-stopped abruptly. Didn't think it helped.2006 approx.-put on Paxil for mild anxiety 20 mg.2007 upped to 40 mg. not sure why.2011- tapered from 40 to 10. went nuts and went back to 20mg2014- tapered from 20mg to 0 from April to The end of June.current meds- Metformin(type 2 diabetic) and low dose aspirin.Take multi vitamin and vit b12, vit. D and magnesium. 5 months off Paxil. Still suffering.recently added 1.2mg of Paxil to alleviate withdrawals.(Nov 30)Dropped to .9mg because having symptoms from reinstatement.(dec 23)<p>taper to .76mg-.8mg (Feb 3) approx. weight .010 to about .008-.009 on scale.
.6mg (march 19th.) .5mg(April 19th)
.4mg(April 27th)
.2 (June 27th)

0mg.  done taper at beginning of August.

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Muddles!

 

I have awful intrusive thoughts. Awful.

 

There was a time when every man I saw, I would have images of sleeping with them...

I've had them about hurting people, and my animals

I've had them over guilt, to the point I was feeling guilty for filling my cup with free water at McDonald's or if I went 5 miles over the speed limit, I felt like I needed to turn my self in to the police.

 

?? Craziness.

2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor.....

5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses.

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Muddles!

 

I have awful intrusive thoughts. Awful.

 

There was a time when every man I saw, I would have images of sleeping with them...

I've had them about hurting people, and my animals

I've had them over guilt, to the point I was feeling guilty for filling my cup with free water at McDonald's or if I went 5 miles over the speed limit, I felt like I needed to turn my self in to the police.

 

?? Craziness.

It is all withdrawal... 

all of it.

Same thing can happen with a drug reaction had that too with the 1st ad I ever took it was horrid like going to hell for 2wks then I had withdrawal years after got me more ADs.

 

I had a self persecution /guilt thing going on in withdrawal that had no legs in reality ...not the intensity.  The 5 miles over the speed limit... for instance would never cross my mind in a normal state but when I hit a long negative stage of withdrawal I was tortured but stupid things like that.  Hurting other or myself were all thoughts that I had more early on when I first quit but I had them the last year or so before I quit Effexor too... really bad... that is one of the reason I wasnted off so badly... or to be fixed.  I did not have any support then none at all.  I just had my own brain and my ho hum doc... who I doubt I ever said a word to about such things I know I did not say a word to him.  He would think I was crazy for some odd reason I guess I decided to handle that myself as I did not think he he would be of any help with it... I was so sure my Effexor was a wonder drug still when it started... dah. It could not be the wonder drug. maybe it was poop out from the wonder drugs I am not sure... but I had wanting to hurt people others when I was on E near the end and shortly after quitting before ...found any support sites with the truth of it all. 

 

This is all drug related and it will all pass it really will.  

It will come it will go it may come back... after a time you will get to see and it and just think,.... you again like your getting a visit from a bill collector... it will stop freaking you out and you will get better at handling it all.  Practice makes perfect and lots of practice is what withdrawal gives us. 

 

It is hard to believe it will pass but it will. 

 

I would like to say here that I Had it come back on me hard this year when I took a book pressure med call atenlol sp?  I took half dose and I knew the second it hit I was in ****... I told me doc this time as I now know this is a medical thing... she said did you go to emerg... I said no.. why would I what could they do. ...give me drugs is what I did that before... so I did not go. But I was careful once I knew I toned down all my activities went to my tool box and started to work... 

 

self care is the section you need to be reading if you don't know what I mean by tool box... 

relaxation... 

baths 

distraction...safe ones.

the things that get you thru...emf...ect you know or I hope you do. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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OMG - the guilt too! Awful! It's a good job we have each other although it hurts me to think of others going through the same. We're not crazy...that's the main thing. Can you imagine if we told our doctors? Jeez - they would lock me up!

 

Muddles!

 

I have awful intrusive thoughts. Awful.

 

There was a time when every man I saw, I would have images of sleeping with them...

I've had them about hurting people, and my animals

I've had them over guilt, to the point I was feeling guilty for filling my cup with free water at McDonald's or if I went 5 miles over the speed limit, I felt like I needed to turn my self in to the police.

 

?? Craziness.

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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The avatar represents freedom for me - I am at the moment the locked away butterfly, trapped in something I can't for the life of me get out of...desperate to get out, screaming, trying..but hitting the those thick glass walls...the walls which I look through with sadness and heartache as I watch those I love living without me being part of it, unable to get to them.

 

One day the lid will be taken off the jar...I will be free. Till then I suppose I'm just going to have to give the wings a rest...they're a bit tired out at the moment. Hope is all I have.

 

This is a bit deep and I'm not usually that deep but it has helped me to put it down.

 

I will look into the knitting, thank you. I know I could be doing a lot with distraction techniques but the apathy is just horrendous.

I have had that head feeling... 

the darkness it is gone

I want you to think about this a bit... even tho your not connecting with those you love they don't know that especially your kids and I know what it is like to have a ditch or wall between your kids and you it is the worst and comes up as regret later for me. 

Now here is the trick they are kids on some level they know **** has hit the fan but the fallout can be lessened for them if you keep doing things ... they don't know your stuggling to read the words of the bed time story... ect. 

Same with the rest other than you life partner he will be impossible to fool ... luckily you know what is going on when I had a partner I did not know what I was feeling or not feeling was drug related neither of us knew that and neither of us knew it would end... 

we ended.  

There are options that come with knowing the truth of the situation... I hope folks here take advantage of knowing. 

peace. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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At one time I had to take all of the knives off the magnetic kitchen rack because every time my eye happened to light upon them I had horrific images of committing harm. So I hid them, problem averted and the thoughts eventually subsided. It also helped that I repeated over and over (and over) in my head either the Lord's Prayer or the 23rd Psalm. Your mind cannot hold 2 competing thoughts at the same time.

Text book OCD and the worst thing you could have done. However if it worked for you in that instance that's great. Repeating the lords prayer or anything for that matter in an attempt to neutralise your anxiety is also an extremely common compulsion.

 

Compulsions are bad as more often than not they only serve to feed your fear regardless of how irrational it may be, it's counterproductive.

 

Do you still hide knifes or become anxious at the sight of one?

December 2008 Prescribed 20mg citalopram (celexa) for depression and OCD.July 2013 stopped taking citalopram (celexa). November 2013 reinstated citalopram (celexa) following replapse at 20mg for 4 weeks, 40mg for 4 weeks and tapered off over 4 weeks as my condition had deteriorated. February 2014 started 20mg of fluoxetine (prozac). Didn't tolerate it and stopped 4 weeks later, experienced no withdrawal. May 2014 started 25mg of sertraline (zoloft), increased to 50mg after 1 week. Remained at 50mg for 4 weeks before increasing to 100mg at the request of my psychiatrist despite advising of suicidal ideation for an additional week before stopping. Advised to drop to 50mg for 3 days before withdrawing altogether. I did as advised and horrendous withdrawal ensued. 11th August 2014 commenced escitalopram (lexapro), weaned off end of October 2014. Commenced Clonazepam December 2014 0.5mg twice daily, switched to Diazepam 10mg twice daily with a view to tapering of the benzodiazepine altogether. Tapering schedule presently at a reduction of 1mg of Diazepam every 1-2 weeks depending upon side effects. So far experienced no severe physical side effects except worsening of PGAD symptoms upon reduction which does seem to improve within a few days of doing so. Presently taking no antidepressants however still experiencing mild agitation, severe depression and PGAD which is currently being treated by a physiotherapist.

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Then again if this is a one off incident it probably can be attributed to withdrawal I guess.

December 2008 Prescribed 20mg citalopram (celexa) for depression and OCD.July 2013 stopped taking citalopram (celexa). November 2013 reinstated citalopram (celexa) following replapse at 20mg for 4 weeks, 40mg for 4 weeks and tapered off over 4 weeks as my condition had deteriorated. February 2014 started 20mg of fluoxetine (prozac). Didn't tolerate it and stopped 4 weeks later, experienced no withdrawal. May 2014 started 25mg of sertraline (zoloft), increased to 50mg after 1 week. Remained at 50mg for 4 weeks before increasing to 100mg at the request of my psychiatrist despite advising of suicidal ideation for an additional week before stopping. Advised to drop to 50mg for 3 days before withdrawing altogether. I did as advised and horrendous withdrawal ensued. 11th August 2014 commenced escitalopram (lexapro), weaned off end of October 2014. Commenced Clonazepam December 2014 0.5mg twice daily, switched to Diazepam 10mg twice daily with a view to tapering of the benzodiazepine altogether. Tapering schedule presently at a reduction of 1mg of Diazepam every 1-2 weeks depending upon side effects. So far experienced no severe physical side effects except worsening of PGAD symptoms upon reduction which does seem to improve within a few days of doing so. Presently taking no antidepressants however still experiencing mild agitation, severe depression and PGAD which is currently being treated by a physiotherapist.

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Yeah, like THAT'S likely to happen.... and if it does, well you'll just have to pay the consequences. Following lines of thought like this is useless and does you no good at all. Do you think I was immune from such thoughts? At one time I had to take all of the knives off the magnetic kitchen rack because every time my eye happened to light upon them I had horrific images of committing harm. So I hid them, problem averted and the thoughts eventually subsided. It also helped that I repeated over and over (and over) in my head either the Lord's Prayer or the 23rd Psalm. Your mind cannot hold 2 competing thoughts at the same time. Do not sit there and worry, DO SOMETHING.

 

Ok, here's your purrito (they have become my 'go to' when vexing thoughts strike!):

 

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Print all of them out and scatter them all over your house. Cut them out and paste them on your milk cartons. Glue one of them to the bottom of a glass plate (like the reverse decoupage that was popular some time ago) and put food on the plate and see the joy of uncovering one as you clean the plate. Put one under the toilet lid (or on top). The possibilities are endless. As Sparrow says, "Cute Kitten Pictures Therapy" does a world of good. We need all the help we can get.

 

(And if there are any cat haters lurking here, phooey on ya!)

Is that your cat?  She is really cute.

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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btdt - I too had this on and off all the way through from starting! I went to see psychiatrists convinced I had schizophrenia and they were telling me it was anxiety and OCD. I will reveal all about what I experienced on this drug one day, it's too difficult to think about it now although flashbacks keep propping up...like some kind of PTSD.

I only had anxiety before meds and it was totally different...never had intrusive thoughts just worried about everything. Bloody hell - death really freaked me out and could never even think about it, one of the reasons I think the panic attacks started as I was working in a hospital...watching people pass. I was not strong enough for that job, I would come home and cry myself to sleep. Cruel how these drugs have suppressed the grief for my dad. I could grieve those people and yet nothing for the man who was in my life for 35 years. Really f***ed up these drugs are!

 

I'm so pleased to hear that this will enventually go...thank you btdt, you are my life saviour! It was bad earlier so I forced myself to do some present wrapping and put something on the tv...this helped a lot. I need a tool box!

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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I hate withdrawal, I hate antidepressants, I hate a lot at the moment which is very out of character for me.

 

Does anyone else avoid doing the things they (used) to love (listening to a certain song, watching a certain film or partaking in an activity) for fear that you'll attach your now miserable emotions to it and it'll somehow sour it for the foreseeable future? I do.

December 2008 Prescribed 20mg citalopram (celexa) for depression and OCD.July 2013 stopped taking citalopram (celexa). November 2013 reinstated citalopram (celexa) following replapse at 20mg for 4 weeks, 40mg for 4 weeks and tapered off over 4 weeks as my condition had deteriorated. February 2014 started 20mg of fluoxetine (prozac). Didn't tolerate it and stopped 4 weeks later, experienced no withdrawal. May 2014 started 25mg of sertraline (zoloft), increased to 50mg after 1 week. Remained at 50mg for 4 weeks before increasing to 100mg at the request of my psychiatrist despite advising of suicidal ideation for an additional week before stopping. Advised to drop to 50mg for 3 days before withdrawing altogether. I did as advised and horrendous withdrawal ensued. 11th August 2014 commenced escitalopram (lexapro), weaned off end of October 2014. Commenced Clonazepam December 2014 0.5mg twice daily, switched to Diazepam 10mg twice daily with a view to tapering of the benzodiazepine altogether. Tapering schedule presently at a reduction of 1mg of Diazepam every 1-2 weeks depending upon side effects. So far experienced no severe physical side effects except worsening of PGAD symptoms upon reduction which does seem to improve within a few days of doing so. Presently taking no antidepressants however still experiencing mild agitation, severe depression and PGAD which is currently being treated by a physiotherapist.

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At one time I had to take all of the knives off the magnetic kitchen rack because every time my eye happened to light upon them I had horrific images of committing harm. So I hid them, problem averted and the thoughts eventually subsided. It also helped that I repeated over and over (and over) in my head either the Lord's Prayer or the 23rd Psalm. Your mind cannot hold 2 competing thoughts at the same time.

Text book OCD and the worst thing you could have done. However if it worked for you in that instance that's great. Repeating the lords prayer or anything for that matter in an attempt to neutralise your anxiety is also an extremely common compulsion.

 

Compulsions are bad as more often than not they only serve to feed your fear regardless of how irrational it may be, it's counterproductive.

 

Do you still hide knifes or become anxious at the sight of one?

I have heard of a few in withdrawal who have had to hide knives. I never had the compulsion before...only on the drug (after I took some over the counter flu medicine) and now in withdrawal. It's definitely drug related.

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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I hate withdrawal, I hate antidepressants, I hate a lot at the moment which is very out of character for me.

 

Does anyone else avoid doing the things they (used) to love (listening to a certain song, watching a certain film or partaking in an activity) for fear that you'll attach your now miserable emotions to it and it'll somehow sour it for the foreseeable future? I do.

all of the time. I constantly grieve 24/7 over who I was and what I loved. I honestly feel like I have died...a bit extreme but that's the only way I can put it.

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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I hate withdrawal, I hate antidepressants, I hate a lot at the moment which is very out of character for me.

 

Does anyone else avoid doing the things they (used) to love (listening to a certain song, watching a certain film or partaking in an activity) for fear that you'll attach your now miserable emotions to it and it'll somehow sour it for the foreseeable future? I do.

Yes Broken - it's awful. I'm constantly grieving for myself 24/7....I talk about myself like that person has died. Bit extreme but it's exactly how I feel. Sorry you suffer with this too. In-human.

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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Sorry - double post! Repeating myself is another annoying crappy withdrawal symptom! Lol

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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I concur!

 

That or I'm being held captive somewhere and a robot doppelganger of myself is currently living my life very poorly for me.

December 2008 Prescribed 20mg citalopram (celexa) for depression and OCD.July 2013 stopped taking citalopram (celexa). November 2013 reinstated citalopram (celexa) following replapse at 20mg for 4 weeks, 40mg for 4 weeks and tapered off over 4 weeks as my condition had deteriorated. February 2014 started 20mg of fluoxetine (prozac). Didn't tolerate it and stopped 4 weeks later, experienced no withdrawal. May 2014 started 25mg of sertraline (zoloft), increased to 50mg after 1 week. Remained at 50mg for 4 weeks before increasing to 100mg at the request of my psychiatrist despite advising of suicidal ideation for an additional week before stopping. Advised to drop to 50mg for 3 days before withdrawing altogether. I did as advised and horrendous withdrawal ensued. 11th August 2014 commenced escitalopram (lexapro), weaned off end of October 2014. Commenced Clonazepam December 2014 0.5mg twice daily, switched to Diazepam 10mg twice daily with a view to tapering of the benzodiazepine altogether. Tapering schedule presently at a reduction of 1mg of Diazepam every 1-2 weeks depending upon side effects. So far experienced no severe physical side effects except worsening of PGAD symptoms upon reduction which does seem to improve within a few days of doing so. Presently taking no antidepressants however still experiencing mild agitation, severe depression and PGAD which is currently being treated by a physiotherapist.

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At one time I had to take all of the knives off the magnetic kitchen rack because every time my eye happened to light upon them I had horrific images of committing harm. So I hid them, problem averted and the thoughts eventually subsided. It also helped that I repeated over and over (and over) in my head either the Lord's Prayer or the 23rd Psalm. Your mind cannot hold 2 competing thoughts at the same time.

Text book OCD and the worst thing you could have done. However if it worked for you in that instance that's great. Repeating the lords prayer or anything for that matter in an attempt to neutralise your anxiety is also an extremely common compulsion.

 

Compulsions are bad as more often than not they only serve to feed your fear regardless of how irrational it may be, it's counterproductive.

 

Do you still hide knifes or become anxious at the sight of one?

 

 

You know what, broken? I think I will just let this stand. You don't get it at all. (It = the horrors of the wd mind)

What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878

 

July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site.

 

Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey.

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I would like a pet. My children would love a dog and think it would be good for them. It would be distraction and company for me too. My husband doesn't though and I'm scared that if I get worse the dog would suffer along with everybody else. What do you think?

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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My children are at school and husband at work 6 days a week so am alone a lot of that time.

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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Doppelganger: Must shower, eat and find socks.

 

3rd party tells a joke.

 

Doppelganger: Humour? Does not compute, must...do...something (show human emotion) hardy har har that was very amusing?

 

(All the time thinking how many benzo's I'd need to chew on in order to fall asleep forever)

December 2008 Prescribed 20mg citalopram (celexa) for depression and OCD.July 2013 stopped taking citalopram (celexa). November 2013 reinstated citalopram (celexa) following replapse at 20mg for 4 weeks, 40mg for 4 weeks and tapered off over 4 weeks as my condition had deteriorated. February 2014 started 20mg of fluoxetine (prozac). Didn't tolerate it and stopped 4 weeks later, experienced no withdrawal. May 2014 started 25mg of sertraline (zoloft), increased to 50mg after 1 week. Remained at 50mg for 4 weeks before increasing to 100mg at the request of my psychiatrist despite advising of suicidal ideation for an additional week before stopping. Advised to drop to 50mg for 3 days before withdrawing altogether. I did as advised and horrendous withdrawal ensued. 11th August 2014 commenced escitalopram (lexapro), weaned off end of October 2014. Commenced Clonazepam December 2014 0.5mg twice daily, switched to Diazepam 10mg twice daily with a view to tapering of the benzodiazepine altogether. Tapering schedule presently at a reduction of 1mg of Diazepam every 1-2 weeks depending upon side effects. So far experienced no severe physical side effects except worsening of PGAD symptoms upon reduction which does seem to improve within a few days of doing so. Presently taking no antidepressants however still experiencing mild agitation, severe depression and PGAD which is currently being treated by a physiotherapist.

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At one time I had to take all of the knives off the magnetic kitchen rack because every time my eye happened to light upon them I had horrific images of committing harm. So I hid them, problem averted and the thoughts eventually subsided. It also helped that I repeated over and over (and over) in my head either the Lord's Prayer or the 23rd Psalm. Your mind cannot hold 2 competing thoughts at the same time.

Text book OCD and the worst thing you could have done. However if it worked for you in that instance that's great. Repeating the lords prayer or anything for that matter in an attempt to neutralise your anxiety is also an extremely common compulsion.

 

Compulsions are bad as more often than not they only serve to feed your fear regardless of how irrational it may be, it's counterproductive.

 

Do you still hide knifes or become anxious at the sight of one?

You know what, broken? I think I will just let this stand. You don't get it at all. (It = the horrors of the wd mind)

Something I'm very aware of sadly. Apologies if I overstepped the mark in some way, not my intention.

December 2008 Prescribed 20mg citalopram (celexa) for depression and OCD.July 2013 stopped taking citalopram (celexa). November 2013 reinstated citalopram (celexa) following replapse at 20mg for 4 weeks, 40mg for 4 weeks and tapered off over 4 weeks as my condition had deteriorated. February 2014 started 20mg of fluoxetine (prozac). Didn't tolerate it and stopped 4 weeks later, experienced no withdrawal. May 2014 started 25mg of sertraline (zoloft), increased to 50mg after 1 week. Remained at 50mg for 4 weeks before increasing to 100mg at the request of my psychiatrist despite advising of suicidal ideation for an additional week before stopping. Advised to drop to 50mg for 3 days before withdrawing altogether. I did as advised and horrendous withdrawal ensued. 11th August 2014 commenced escitalopram (lexapro), weaned off end of October 2014. Commenced Clonazepam December 2014 0.5mg twice daily, switched to Diazepam 10mg twice daily with a view to tapering of the benzodiazepine altogether. Tapering schedule presently at a reduction of 1mg of Diazepam every 1-2 weeks depending upon side effects. So far experienced no severe physical side effects except worsening of PGAD symptoms upon reduction which does seem to improve within a few days of doing so. Presently taking no antidepressants however still experiencing mild agitation, severe depression and PGAD which is currently being treated by a physiotherapist.

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The avatar represents freedom for me - I am at the moment the locked away butterfly, trapped in something I can't for the life of me get out of...desperate to get out, screaming, trying..but hitting the those thick glass walls...the walls which I look through with sadness and heartache as I watch those I love living without me being part of it, unable to get to them.

 

One day the lid will be taken off the jar...I will be free. Till then I suppose I'm just going to have to give the wings a rest...they're a bit tired out at the moment. Hope is all I have.

 

This is a bit deep and I'm not usually that deep but it has helped me to put it down.

 

I will look into the knitting, thank you. I know I could be doing a lot with distraction techniques but the apathy is just horrendous.

I have had that head feeling...

the darkness it is gone

I want you to think about this a bit... even tho your not connecting with those you love they don't know that especially your kids and I know what it is like to have a ditch or wall between your kids and you it is the worst and comes up as regret later for me.

Now here is the trick they are kids on some level they know **** has hit the fan but the fallout can be lessened for them if you keep doing things ... they don't know your stuggling to read the words of the bed time story... ect.

Same with the rest other than you life partner he will be impossible to fool ... luckily you know what is going on when I had a partner I did not know what I was feeling or not feeling was drug related neither of us knew that and neither of us knew it would end...

we ended.

There are options that come with knowing the truth of the situation... I hope folks here take advantage of knowing.

peace.

This is where we are blessed btdt - by people like you and this site because I know for sure I probably wouldn't be here now if I did not have the knowledge of what is going on and the support of you guys. I feel sorry that you didn't...sorry that there was no-one guiding and supporting you. Thank you for this, you really have no idea just how in-valuable you are to me. You didn't deserve what you have been through and it breaks my heart....I still believe much more healing is around the corner for you. I pray for that. Bless you.

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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I have decided against the dog idea - just for now. I have these crazy ideas from time to time. I struggle to my kids sorted so a dog would probably send me over the edge!

2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription.

Severe adverse reaction

Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on.

Poop out - December 2013

15mg

Currently on 13.5mg,

April 12mg

May 10th - 11mg

June 10th - 10mg

July 8th - 9mg

September - 0mg

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OMG - the guilt too! Awful! It's a good job we have each other although it hurts me to think of others going through the same. We're not crazy...that's the main thing. Can you imagine if we told our doctors? Jeez - they would lock me up!

 

Muddles!

 

I have awful intrusive thoughts. Awful.

 

There was a time when every man I saw, I would have images of sleeping with them...

I've had them about hurting people, and my animals

I've had them over guilt, to the point I was feeling guilty for filling my cup with free water at McDonald's or if I went 5 miles over the speed limit, I felt like I needed to turn my self in to the police.

 

?? Craziness.

 

Yes!! Thank God we have each other!!!

2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor.....

5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses.

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Amen to that JDM. This site has been a lifeline for me since I discovered it. I am so happy I found all of you. You are all fabulous!

2002-put on amitryptiline for fibromyalgia. 10mg.2004-stopped abruptly. Didn't think it helped.2006 approx.-put on Paxil for mild anxiety 20 mg.2007 upped to 40 mg. not sure why.2011- tapered from 40 to 10. went nuts and went back to 20mg2014- tapered from 20mg to 0 from April to The end of June.current meds- Metformin(type 2 diabetic) and low dose aspirin.Take multi vitamin and vit b12, vit. D and magnesium. 5 months off Paxil. Still suffering.recently added 1.2mg of Paxil to alleviate withdrawals.(Nov 30)Dropped to .9mg because having symptoms from reinstatement.(dec 23)<p>taper to .76mg-.8mg (Feb 3) approx. weight .010 to about .008-.009 on scale.
.6mg (march 19th.) .5mg(April 19th)
.4mg(April 27th)
.2 (June 27th)

0mg.  done taper at beginning of August.

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