AliG Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Not sure if we should be talking about stains. Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
AliG Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 And I don't think many people think "suicide is the best option" . Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
AliG Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I hope you find some relief, soon , Wishing you the best. Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Martina23 Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 Today in Austria there was was not any working day so I decided to go to Slovakia, where I had some admin things to do, to pay some bills and go to the bank. Everything was going quite ok, I managed all these really in a calm way, when someone had other opinion I did not get angry and just accepted in life there are always obstacles and this is nothing to worry about. I let my children by my mother, I planned it only during I was running to arrange things, but my mother wanted to keep children until wednesday, so I went home alone. On the way home I was a bit worried as I had a minute it was just suddenly such a wave of big anger to everybody, more rage than anger, I already thought if I shouldnt go to psychiatry rather, but than it again went away. I assume (and hope) it is withdrawal driven. Surely I would be more happy if I were already in a better state of mind, but it is not. But I try to avoid hospital as I dont want any subsequent seroquell if I can help it. So, I am feeling a bit lonely without children. But maybe I will have time to tidy up when they are not here. I pray that these bad thoughts go away. When I was sitting in the shopping mole in Bratislava today, they showed in the television at that moment New York and Times Square. I liked it, I was watching it and drank coffee and Coca-Cola. Maybe these two were responsible for the rage feeling later, but I needed a rest, and for this is coffee and Coca-cola very good. I assume I am going sleeping. Or maybe listen a bit to music. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I get the sudden rush of rage too Martina..and it makes me want to hurt myself or go to hospital. Your not alone xx 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted May 26, 2015 Moderator Share Posted May 26, 2015 Such a wonderful day Martina. You handled all the ups and down beautifully and had a nice relaxing time at the shopping maul. Enjoy your music and sleep. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Martina23 Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 There are some things which were better these days by me. I got a feeling that I have more strenght and that I want to be again active in life. Today all the post I got long time ago, I solved today. I asked the atorney general in Houston if there are any achievements in my case, that I am feeling already better and I am prepared to support them in order to go to the trial so that the children get their child support and have some money for example if something happened with me. I also made a date with an agency in Austria which helps to go to the lawsuit here in Austria, because my previous employer just did not pay my salary and I dont want to let it like this, because the children would need this money. So these were the things which improved. The things which did not improve at all are bad thoughts. I was just thinking about children and they came really even worse than before. In such times I really want to make suicide as there is nothing worse than to have bad thoughts with respect to your children. I know that these are not my thoughts but they pain nevertheless. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
Martina23 Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 I am so tired. I could not sleep for two days. Only maybe 5 hours. Normally I sleep very deeply and the whole night. I dont know what it is . Is it also a withdrawal symptom? 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
Hudgens Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Yes, insomnia is a very common withdrawal symptom. Sept 12th 1992-began taking Imipramine (50mgs) for panic attacks. Stopped Imipramine after 4 months (cold turkey). 7 months later experienced "mysterious" bad flu-like symptoms, although, without upper respiratory problems or fever. Because of this and a day of panic attacks, was put on Prozac (20mgs?) for 2 months and then, when that didn't work-was put back on Imipramine, plus Xanax 1 mg (4Xdaily)-October 1993. March 1999-switched from Imipramine (50mgs) to Celexa. 2008-switched to Pristiq for 3 months, then back to Effexor XR (after bad reaction to the Pristiq). Sept 1st 2010-Switched from Effexor XR (75mgs) to Effexor Generic (solid form) in preparation for taper. Nov 15th 2010-Began tapering from 75mgs Effexor Generic. January 13th 2014-.06mgs April 17th 2014- .03mgs May 11th 2014- .02mgs Ended taper October 31st 2014 Oct 4th 2015-11 months post taper and completely back to normal! Link to comment
Martina23 Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 I am still sitting at work as I had to finish one project today. My back is somewhat hurting me today. Yesterday I was heaving Benny (my son) in order to change his pampers (I think he has surely 15 kg) and from this moment I can not bend forward. So I am waiting till it goes better. When I come home, I have to tidy up as my mother and sister come on Saturday for visit. My sister lives in Germany in Munich and has a little daughter approximately this age like my two children. I think the whole visit would be for me quite difficult with my current harm thoughts but I could not say no. It is also good for my children to get to know their cousin. My head is still not better. The bad thoughts are going only more and more. Maybe it has something with the tapering. My body does not heal anything. I started already to consider myself mad. I think when I would not have already from my life anything anymore, I will at least try to earn the most money I can, so that the children can have a nice life, maybe then my life would have some meaning. When I find sme au-pair for them, I will try to find also another work for evenings even temporary, that I can take them somewhere for swimming holiday or to some farm. There are farms where they raise little ponny horses. I would like to go to such. The only problem is that I dont have any car now because in the city I dont need a car so I sold mine to my father. But maybe it is possible to go there by train and then by taxi. There are also some farms where you can help and then you pay less for holiday. I can imagine this I could also do. I will try to continue to be active also make exams for my licences because in other case I could forget the life completely. I know it does not give me my head back, but I think sitting and crying would make me even more depressed. I think, the people need in life some aim, in other case they are unhappy. I know that work and children aren´t an complete aim in the life, but I dont have any other now. If the life makes me happy now, is another question. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
Martina23 Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 37,5 mg, heading for 35 mg. Violent intrusive thoughts are at their peak today. Dont believe on healing thing. Nevertheless, I decided, that if I heal I would like to have one more child, I love children. I hope that I find a man who would like one more child. But this I will think about first when I have my head ok. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
Martina23 Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Yesterday my mother and my sister came for visit. I feel really a bit sad. We came to speak also about my "illness". My sister immediately said that I am stupid that I dont come back to the full amount of medicine as I got only problems when I tried to quit. She meant I should stay on it and later when I feel well or when I am in love I should quit. Because that it would go from itself. She meant that now I have such "Sparta regime" that she does not wonder that my body does not cope well with the quitting. She said also she is not sure that it goes away from itself, only with the medicine. But I am not sure that the violent thoughts would not go away only that I go back to full amount of medicine. And I also dont know if waiting till "I am in love" is a good idea when it goes to quitting of the medicine. I dont know but they messed me totally. Violent thoughts are still more. I dont know at the moment what is the right way to do. This issue with my damaged brain is for me so complicated. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
AliG Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I'm so sorry you're going through this. Family issues, can be tricky. I hope you resolve things with your sister, and that you feel better , soon. I think you are doing well. Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Frustrated Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Oh Martina I am so sorry you are dealing with these family issues. Most of us are. Your loved ones mean well but unfortunately it is impossible for them to truly understand what is going on when they haven`t experienced it. Waiting until you are in love and then going through this hellish withdrawal is a terrible idea. It could potentially ruin the relationship. Also there is no guarantee that reinstating your medication will even work. It could make matters worse now that your CNS is sensitive. You are doing what you feel is best for your own health. Stay the course and try to be strong. My family doesn`t understand either but they do care that I suffer. You will eventually come through this intact and happy. I know it! 2002-put on amitryptiline for fibromyalgia. 10mg.2004-stopped abruptly. Didn't think it helped.2006 approx.-put on Paxil for mild anxiety 20 mg.2007 upped to 40 mg. not sure why.2011- tapered from 40 to 10. went nuts and went back to 20mg2014- tapered from 20mg to 0 from April to The end of June.current meds- Metformin(type 2 diabetic) and low dose aspirin.Take multi vitamin and vit b12, vit. D and magnesium. 5 months off Paxil. Still suffering.recently added 1.2mg of Paxil to alleviate withdrawals.(Nov 30)Dropped to .9mg because having symptoms from reinstatement.(dec 23)<p>taper to .76mg-.8mg (Feb 3) approx. weight .010 to about .008-.009 on scale..6mg (march 19th.) .5mg(April 19th).4mg(April 27th).2 (June 27th) 0mg. done taper at beginning of August. Link to comment
Martina23 Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Yesterday we were going swimming with the children. Maybe for ten minutes I had such a feeling that I could remember me who I was prior withdrawal. I felt love for my children, piece and such curiosness for the life. Then it was away. When we came home and entered the door, I had again a harming impulse to my Emily and in the evening the drug or this mess in my head tried to persuade me that I dont like my children at all. I started so much to cry as I know how I was, how I loved life, people and children in particular and at once there seem to live only hate and harm. I realize that this hate is not my own but I cant change it. I can not understand that my body did not do anything in 7 months. So I am waiting in vain and I am so afraid that I could really cause harm to my children. But that is not me. How is it possible that in 7 months my body did nothing? I am sure I can not live like this. I lost everything. I want to love my children like before. I dont understand how can these psychiatrists damage lives of the people totally unpunished. And me , they make me harm and I have only two possibilities: If I do someone something in my damaged state, I will be medicated to the death and if not I can make suicide, because life is not livable like this. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
Martina23 Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 As a robot I am still good. Beside the work I provided today the whole materials for the court in Houston and also I made a date to sue my prior employer that he did not give me last two salaries. At least the children would have some money to have a nice living some day, I feel like a lost soul. Someone who shouldnt be living. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
btdt Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Yesterday my mother and my sister came for visit. I feel really a bit sad. We came to speak also about my "illness". My sister immediately said that I am stupid that I dont come back to the full amount of medicine as I got only problems when I tried to quit. She meant I should stay on it and later when I feel well or when I am in love I should quit. Because that it would go from itself. She meant that now I have such "Sparta regime" that she does not wonder that my body does not cope well with the quitting. She said also she is not sure that it goes away from itself, only with the medicine. But I am not sure that the violent thoughts would not go away only that I go back to full amount of medicine. And I also dont know if waiting till "I am in love" is a good idea when it goes to quitting of the medicine. I dont know but they messed me totally. Violent thoughts are still more. I dont know at the moment what is the right way to do. This issue with my damaged brain is for me so complicated. Send them this if they want to be educated they will find a lot here... http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6907-the-it-gets-better-series/ if they don't want to know no amount of telling them will help. YOU are the priority here not them as rough as that sounds. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
bluebalu86 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Martina, what is your tapering schedule? I suffer from depression, anxiety, pure-o ocd, and panic attacks since 2004. Been on multiple different psychiatric drugs since 2006. Never had a significant WD problem before, only brain zaps for a month and then I'd be fine...............Been on Cipralex (escitalopram) 15 mg and Fluanxol (flupentixol) 1 mg since Sep 2014. Stopped taking the Cipralex after a fast 20-day taper.Took the last 5 mg Cipralex on Feb 5th, 2015. Then took Seroxat (paroxetine) 10 mg for a week, and stopped it too. Severe WD started suddenly on Feb 16th. RI 5 mg Cipralex on Feb 18th, 2015. RI worked and was relatively stable for a while................April 7 - decreased Fluanxol from 1 mg to 0.5 mg and took it at this dose for a week. - BIG MISTAKE; April 13 - WD starts creeping in; April 14 - RI full dose of Fluanxol 1 mg => severe muscle twitching and jerking when trying to relax and fall asleep, overwhelming sense of doom, dread, terror, and horror, insomnia, hoping to stabilize.Tried doing a 10% cut off Fluanxol in the end of May for a few days, but quickly updosed to full dose because the twitching returned.Experiencing waves and windows in the following months.Unsuccessful brief taper attempt of Fluanxol by 5% on November 1st. Symptoms hit the next day. Too scared to continue tapering, reinstate full dose.Severe crash in November after stupidly trying a barbiturate on November 9th. Grave mistake. Sense of unshakable inescapable internal torture, like my soul is in hell being tortured, terror/horror/dread/doom (probably akathisia?) that gets especially bad when trying to relax and fall asleep, muscles twitch, jerk and move on their own, shaking, insomnia, can't eat, confusion, disorientation, brain not working normally. Never felt so bad in my entire life. Never experiment with other meds while in WD! Praying to God I stabilize and get back to my baseline.December - things getting even worse. January - unbearable suffering Link to comment
Martina23 Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 5 mg a month (last dosage was 40 mg), currently heading to 35 mg, it will take me ca 10 days to come there and I will stay on this dose for 14 days. I have this harm OCD from previous c/t not from current tapering. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
btdt Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Yesterday we were going swimming with the children. Maybe for ten minutes I had such a feeling that I could remember me who I was prior withdrawal. I felt love for my children, piece and such curiosness for the life. Then it was away. When we came home and entered the door, I had again a harming impulse to my Emily and in the evening the drug or this mess in my head tried to persuade me that I dont like my children at all. I started so much to cry as I know how I was, how I loved life, people and children in particular and at once there seem to live only hate and harm. I realize that this hate is not my own but I cant change it. I can not understand that my body did not do anything in 7 months. So I am waiting in vain and I am so afraid that I could really cause harm to my children. But that is not me. How is it possible that in 7 months my body did nothing? I am sure I can not live like this. I lost everything. I want to love my children like before. I dont understand how can these psychiatrists damage lives of the people totally unpunished. And me , they make me harm and I have only two possibilities: If I do someone something in my damaged state, I will be medicated to the death and if not I can make suicide, because life is not livable like this. "Yesterday we were going swimming with the children. Maybe for ten minutes I had such a feeling that I could remember me who I was prior withdrawal. I felt love for my children, piece and such curiosness for the life" 7 months is not that long as wd goes.. I did not even know there was such a thing as wd till I was 8 months into cold turkey. You have started to heal you body has done something as quoted above... a change a taste of what is to come. Hold on for dear life to this memory... because this is your future... don't quit just before your about to win. I don't think you will quit you love your kids too much know this will end one day there will be other things come up probably as wd is like that but this it will end... Once you see a glint of healing it can make you really hungry of the rest I know this but wanting badly does not make it come any faster sometimes the robot is not such a bad way to pass the time while your body is healing... think of ways you can make use of it. Maybe there are some things you don't really care to do get the robot to do it I let my robot clean grout... when its up to it other times mate the socks I hate mating socks. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Martina23 Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Are there really such robots? I am cleaning grout and mating socks by myself :-) When my mother had to come on Saturday, I cleaned the whole house (My mother is a lot on order), I was then so tired ... 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted June 1, 2015 Moderator Share Posted June 1, 2015 Martina-- this is a time to look at the small stuff and not the "big picture". You went swimming with the children and had a wonderful time, "I felt love for my children, piece and such curiousness for life". That is such a positive sign of healing. They start out small, only lasting a few minutes, but they keep coming back and staying longer and longer. That is what we call windows. Even though you didn't feel anything happening for those 7 months there was a lot of small healing going on all over your body and brain and now those little bits are adding up to enough for you to see it happening once in a while. Hold on to those precious moments so they can sustain you through the bad times in between. They are the glimpses of the real, kind and loving you that is waiting to be set free from the false reality that the drugs have made, and make it so you can believe that things will eventually be good again. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))) 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ten0275 Posted June 1, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 1, 2015 martina, hey. btdt and brassmonkey said it perfectly. i only want to reinforce what they both said. this is how the windows and waves started for me. just these little flash-moments of normalcy. then right back to hell. then normalcy. then right back to hell. it is that swinging pendulum of healing. windows and waves. those 10 minutes are really something to celebrate. what you felt during that time is your future. this was my exact experience. so happy for Y-O-U!!! hang in there! dave 1996 - .5mg Ativan as needed, 7.5mg Remeron daily2008 - .5mg Xanax, Ativan discontinued, Remeron continued2012 - .5mg Xanax, .25mg Ativan 3x daily, Remeron continued2/2012 - Jumped from Remeron, continued .5mg Xanax .25mg Ativan 3x daily4/2012 - Began rapid taper of .5mg Xanax .25mg Ativan 3x daily6/2012 - Jumped from Xanax and Ativan, voluntary hospitalization followed7/2012 - 2nd voluntary hospitalization, reinstated Remeron, bumped to 30mg, also given risperidone.8/2012 - discontinued risperidone, tried gabapentin, dicontinued gabapentin, Remeron 30mg continued10/2012 to current - tapered Remeron 10% every 4 to 6 weeks (sometimes more time) using liquid compound12/2014 - 2mg Remeron 1/16/2015 - 1.9mg Remeron 8/1/2015 -1.6mg Remeron - 03/1/2016 - 1.5mg Remeron - 1/2/2017 1.3mg - 5/7/2017 1.2mg - 5/13/2017 - syringe size change - 6/8/2017 - 1.1mg - 7/10/2017 - 1mg - 9/1/2017 - 0.9mg - 10/22/2017 - 0.8mg - 11/22/2017 - 0.7mg - 2/2/2018 - 0.6mg - 3/13/2018 - new compound pharmacy - 5/20/2018 - 0.5mg - 8/31/2018 - 0.4mg - 11/16/2018 - 0.3mg - 12/24/2018 - 0.2mg - 4/1/2019 - 0.1mg - 5/1/2019 - .05mg - 0mg achieved 2019-06-15. 🤞 Link to comment
btdt Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 As a robot I am still good. Beside the work I provided today the whole materials for the court in Houston and also I made a date to sue my prior employer that he did not give me last two salaries. At least the children would have some money to have a nice living some day, I feel like a lost soul. Someone who shouldnt be living. Are there really such robots? I am cleaning grout and mating socks by myself :-) When my mother had to come on Saturday, I cleaned the whole house (My mother is a lot on order), I was then so tired ... Was just using your words think you joking but can't be sure... mothers and order they go together sometimes and sometimes not... it all depends on what is best at the time... Spending some time in healing doing the small things is not such a bad way to pass the time while you wait... when I was well enough I found it better than a lot of other things I could have been doing and I like the result and feeling of getting something done even if it was not a lot it help me. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Martina23 Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 I again enrolled for a state exam to get the licence for making financial accounts in september. My boss meant the company would pay it. Most probably I would be the first advisor with harming tendencies in the history of mankind. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
Pugknows Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Hahaaa. You go girl! Love, Pug. January 2012 - Prescribed 900mg gabapentin and 30mg Norco for lower lumber spinal stenosis pain. September 2013 - Spinal fusion surgery, 6 levels. Hospital ramped up meds 1500mg gabapentin, 100mg Norco, 80mg Oxycontin, 25mg Fentanyl patch. January 2014 - Sever nausea daily and with back pain every 4 hours. 2 trips to ER. First endoscopy found ulcer. Treated with Sucralfate and PPI. Second endo in May found no ulcers. Doctors said it was the opiates causing the nausea. CT'd Oxycontin, Fentanyl patch. July 2014 - Lost 48 lbs. due to not eating because of severe nausea. GP prescribed Prozac 20mg and Ativan 2mg prn. Tried for 4 days, quit. Two week followup GP said keep taking Prozac. 4 days, quit again. Ativan taken rarely prn for anxiety and appetite. August 2014 - Went to detox. Off opiates. Still nauseous, helmet head, drugged feeling. Doctor CT'd gabapentin. Ended up in ER. Found 2 gallstones. Gabapentin reinstated at 900mg. Tried botched up and down taper to get off Gabapentin. No tapering advice from doctor. Said to just CT again. September 2014 - Coded on table during gallbladder surgery. Developed liver biloma due to CPR by doctor. Had bile bulb inserted for 2 wks to drain. October 2014 - Gallbladder removed. Still nauseous, 3am cortisol surging, drugged helmet head, vertigo, breathlessness, whooshing head, heart palps. November 8th, 2014 - CT'd gabapentin suggested by family and 4 different doctors. Was told no withdrawal is associated with gabapentin. Have been in hell ever since. No windows, just one big tsunami every day with same symptoms for 4 months. December 26, 2014 - Found SA. At least I know I'm not insane. My family thinks I'm doing this to myself. Akathesia has become unbearable. March 10, 2015 - In absolute daily hell with no relief. Currently taking magnesium 200mg before bedtime. Link to comment
Martina23 Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 I dont understand that. It looks like that some of my depression is lifting. Like it makes me again fun to do my job and to earn money, and today I get such a strange urge to make me nice and to take care much more of me. It is like as if the enrgy inside the body were flowing better. And the other hand, the depression can not be lifting as the negative and harming thoughts towards all the people and also my children are always going more and more. They depend also on amount of serotonin what I read. I dont understand but I want to have my nice loving thoughts back. 7 months tapering and the body is still happy in its own misery and doing no healing at all. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
Flowers Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Hi Martina! I think you are seeing small glimpses of what it will be like when you are recovered. This is such a good sign and I hope that this gives you hope for a better future. I am so pleased that these little windows are happening for you. Take care. Flowers xxx 15 yrs on 20 to 30 mgs CITALOPRAM. MAY 2014 Increased to 40 mgs per day.SEPT/NOV 2014 tapered in 6 weeks down to 10 mgs as per Dr instructions due to violent nightmares/palpitations.Given Noctamid (lormetazepam) to help with anxiety. On average took 2mg per day for 8 weeks.No taper was advised.DEC 2014 WD severe. Nervous tic in eyes and limbs, muscle pain,fluct temp, weakness, dep and anxiety, nausea, giddy, unstable when walking. Different Dr suggested taking 20mgs CIT. BROMAZEPAM 3mgs up to 3 x daily for anxiety.DEC 9 2014 Updose CIT to 30mgs. Only taking BROMAZEPAM in emergency.DEC 31 2014 Settling at 30mg CIT - helping with depression. No Brom for 2wks.Found SA.APR 2015 Trying to stabilise on 30mgs CIT. JAN 2016 Started Cit Taper reducing by 5% per month. 28.5 mgs FEB Taper held bereavement. APR Taper resumed 27mgs . MAY 25.50 mgs . JUNE 24 mgs . JULY I stupidly mixed up my BP meds with CIT. Consequently took no CIT for 3 days and doubled my BP meds. Waiting for the fallout....Holding for a while until any chance of repercussions have abated. SEPT taper resumed to 22.5 mgs . OCT 21 mgs .NOV 19.95 mgs DEC crashed. 2017: FEB 3rd updose to 20.5 mgs to try to stabilise.FEB.switched over to 75mgs of Venlafaxine XR for 3 weeks.Too stimulating so switching back to Cit. 12 March 37.5 Ven and 20 Cit. 21 March 18mg Ven 20mg Cit. 4 April 9mg Ven 20mg Cit. Xanax .50mg when needed. 13 April 0 mgs Ven, 20mg Citalopram. Xanax .50 mg per day. 5 May reinstated a small amount of Ven to stabilize 1 mg twice a day. 20 mg Citalopram at night. Xanax .25 mg twice per day.Other Meds: Losartan (BP)Started 1993 at 50 mgs at night. Seretide (Asthma) Started 1996 at 1 puff twice a day. Jan 2019 Antibiotic Ceclor 500mgs twice a day for bronchitis and Atrovent 2ml capsules twice a day for asthma. Finished the course of both Jan 17. XANAX Jan 27 - Feb 3 2019 Failed Valium Crossover. Feb 14 2019 Updosed Xanax by .0625 Feb 17 2019 Decreased Xanax by .0625. Back to .50mg daily. Update Xanax 28.2.20 tapered to .1250 mg 8am .25 mg midnight. Update Xanax 11.8.21 tapered to .25 mg at night. Current Meds 28.2.19: CITALOPRAM 20mg taken at midnight. VENLAFAXINE .9 mg twice a day at 8am and 10pm. XANAX .50 mg split into 4 doses per day. 10am .0625mg / 2pm .1250mg/ 6pm .0625mg / midnight .25mg.Update 10.8.22 .25 mg at night. LOSARTAN 50 mgs taken at midnight. SERETIDE 1 puff taken at 8am and 10pm. 7.7.19 VENLAFAXINE UPDATE: Started tapering 10% every 4 weeks. Currently .4 mg twice a day at 8am and 10 pm. 2.9.19 .36 mg x 2. 1.10.19 .32 mg x 2. 26.11.19 .29 mg x2. 26.12.19 .26 mg x 2. 23.1.20 .23 mg x 2. 20.2.20 .21 mg x2.20.3.20 .19 mg x 2. 21.4.20 .17 mg x 2. 19.5.20 .13 mg x 2. 18.6.20 .11mg x 2 .18.7.20.10 mg x 2.1.9.20.09 mg x 2. 30.9. 20 .08 mg x 2. 1.11.20 .07 mg x 2. 2.12.20 .06 mg x 2. 8.1.21 .05 mg x 2. 4.2.21 .04 mg x 2. 9.3.21 .03 mgx2. 7.4.21 .02 mg x 2. 9.5.21 .01 mg x 2. 21.6.21 .01 mg x 1. 11.8.21 ZERO! Link to comment
Martina23 Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 Flowers, thank you for your post. I would wish the glimpses are already much bigger ... I can not imagine to end again on medicaments, but the life like this is very difficult. I read somewhere that you made already a progress. I am happy for you. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
Flowers Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Thanks Martina - I am stabilising but still on these drugs that I so want to get off so have a long journey ahead tapering. You are doing so well juggling your job and family whilst not feeling well. You should be very proud of yourself. Now you are getting little windows. Yay! xxxx 15 yrs on 20 to 30 mgs CITALOPRAM. MAY 2014 Increased to 40 mgs per day.SEPT/NOV 2014 tapered in 6 weeks down to 10 mgs as per Dr instructions due to violent nightmares/palpitations.Given Noctamid (lormetazepam) to help with anxiety. On average took 2mg per day for 8 weeks.No taper was advised.DEC 2014 WD severe. Nervous tic in eyes and limbs, muscle pain,fluct temp, weakness, dep and anxiety, nausea, giddy, unstable when walking. Different Dr suggested taking 20mgs CIT. BROMAZEPAM 3mgs up to 3 x daily for anxiety.DEC 9 2014 Updose CIT to 30mgs. Only taking BROMAZEPAM in emergency.DEC 31 2014 Settling at 30mg CIT - helping with depression. No Brom for 2wks.Found SA.APR 2015 Trying to stabilise on 30mgs CIT. JAN 2016 Started Cit Taper reducing by 5% per month. 28.5 mgs FEB Taper held bereavement. APR Taper resumed 27mgs . MAY 25.50 mgs . JUNE 24 mgs . JULY I stupidly mixed up my BP meds with CIT. Consequently took no CIT for 3 days and doubled my BP meds. Waiting for the fallout....Holding for a while until any chance of repercussions have abated. SEPT taper resumed to 22.5 mgs . OCT 21 mgs .NOV 19.95 mgs DEC crashed. 2017: FEB 3rd updose to 20.5 mgs to try to stabilise.FEB.switched over to 75mgs of Venlafaxine XR for 3 weeks.Too stimulating so switching back to Cit. 12 March 37.5 Ven and 20 Cit. 21 March 18mg Ven 20mg Cit. 4 April 9mg Ven 20mg Cit. Xanax .50mg when needed. 13 April 0 mgs Ven, 20mg Citalopram. Xanax .50 mg per day. 5 May reinstated a small amount of Ven to stabilize 1 mg twice a day. 20 mg Citalopram at night. Xanax .25 mg twice per day.Other Meds: Losartan (BP)Started 1993 at 50 mgs at night. Seretide (Asthma) Started 1996 at 1 puff twice a day. Jan 2019 Antibiotic Ceclor 500mgs twice a day for bronchitis and Atrovent 2ml capsules twice a day for asthma. Finished the course of both Jan 17. XANAX Jan 27 - Feb 3 2019 Failed Valium Crossover. Feb 14 2019 Updosed Xanax by .0625 Feb 17 2019 Decreased Xanax by .0625. Back to .50mg daily. Update Xanax 28.2.20 tapered to .1250 mg 8am .25 mg midnight. Update Xanax 11.8.21 tapered to .25 mg at night. Current Meds 28.2.19: CITALOPRAM 20mg taken at midnight. VENLAFAXINE .9 mg twice a day at 8am and 10pm. XANAX .50 mg split into 4 doses per day. 10am .0625mg / 2pm .1250mg/ 6pm .0625mg / midnight .25mg.Update 10.8.22 .25 mg at night. LOSARTAN 50 mgs taken at midnight. SERETIDE 1 puff taken at 8am and 10pm. 7.7.19 VENLAFAXINE UPDATE: Started tapering 10% every 4 weeks. Currently .4 mg twice a day at 8am and 10 pm. 2.9.19 .36 mg x 2. 1.10.19 .32 mg x 2. 26.11.19 .29 mg x2. 26.12.19 .26 mg x 2. 23.1.20 .23 mg x 2. 20.2.20 .21 mg x2.20.3.20 .19 mg x 2. 21.4.20 .17 mg x 2. 19.5.20 .13 mg x 2. 18.6.20 .11mg x 2 .18.7.20.10 mg x 2.1.9.20.09 mg x 2. 30.9. 20 .08 mg x 2. 1.11.20 .07 mg x 2. 2.12.20 .06 mg x 2. 8.1.21 .05 mg x 2. 4.2.21 .04 mg x 2. 9.3.21 .03 mgx2. 7.4.21 .02 mg x 2. 9.5.21 .01 mg x 2. 21.6.21 .01 mg x 1. 11.8.21 ZERO! Link to comment
Martina23 Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 I am so afraid that I will already stay like this, I dont want to harm anybody. I am so afraid. How can these doctors give you a "medicament" which will destroy totally your head? I am just so afraid. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
Flowers Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I know, it is criminal what the medical profession have done to us. It must be very frightening but hopefully it is not permanent and you will get better. You are having glimpses now and that is a good sign. xxx 15 yrs on 20 to 30 mgs CITALOPRAM. MAY 2014 Increased to 40 mgs per day.SEPT/NOV 2014 tapered in 6 weeks down to 10 mgs as per Dr instructions due to violent nightmares/palpitations.Given Noctamid (lormetazepam) to help with anxiety. On average took 2mg per day for 8 weeks.No taper was advised.DEC 2014 WD severe. Nervous tic in eyes and limbs, muscle pain,fluct temp, weakness, dep and anxiety, nausea, giddy, unstable when walking. Different Dr suggested taking 20mgs CIT. BROMAZEPAM 3mgs up to 3 x daily for anxiety.DEC 9 2014 Updose CIT to 30mgs. Only taking BROMAZEPAM in emergency.DEC 31 2014 Settling at 30mg CIT - helping with depression. No Brom for 2wks.Found SA.APR 2015 Trying to stabilise on 30mgs CIT. JAN 2016 Started Cit Taper reducing by 5% per month. 28.5 mgs FEB Taper held bereavement. APR Taper resumed 27mgs . MAY 25.50 mgs . JUNE 24 mgs . JULY I stupidly mixed up my BP meds with CIT. Consequently took no CIT for 3 days and doubled my BP meds. Waiting for the fallout....Holding for a while until any chance of repercussions have abated. SEPT taper resumed to 22.5 mgs . OCT 21 mgs .NOV 19.95 mgs DEC crashed. 2017: FEB 3rd updose to 20.5 mgs to try to stabilise.FEB.switched over to 75mgs of Venlafaxine XR for 3 weeks.Too stimulating so switching back to Cit. 12 March 37.5 Ven and 20 Cit. 21 March 18mg Ven 20mg Cit. 4 April 9mg Ven 20mg Cit. Xanax .50mg when needed. 13 April 0 mgs Ven, 20mg Citalopram. Xanax .50 mg per day. 5 May reinstated a small amount of Ven to stabilize 1 mg twice a day. 20 mg Citalopram at night. Xanax .25 mg twice per day.Other Meds: Losartan (BP)Started 1993 at 50 mgs at night. Seretide (Asthma) Started 1996 at 1 puff twice a day. Jan 2019 Antibiotic Ceclor 500mgs twice a day for bronchitis and Atrovent 2ml capsules twice a day for asthma. Finished the course of both Jan 17. XANAX Jan 27 - Feb 3 2019 Failed Valium Crossover. Feb 14 2019 Updosed Xanax by .0625 Feb 17 2019 Decreased Xanax by .0625. Back to .50mg daily. Update Xanax 28.2.20 tapered to .1250 mg 8am .25 mg midnight. Update Xanax 11.8.21 tapered to .25 mg at night. Current Meds 28.2.19: CITALOPRAM 20mg taken at midnight. VENLAFAXINE .9 mg twice a day at 8am and 10pm. XANAX .50 mg split into 4 doses per day. 10am .0625mg / 2pm .1250mg/ 6pm .0625mg / midnight .25mg.Update 10.8.22 .25 mg at night. LOSARTAN 50 mgs taken at midnight. SERETIDE 1 puff taken at 8am and 10pm. 7.7.19 VENLAFAXINE UPDATE: Started tapering 10% every 4 weeks. Currently .4 mg twice a day at 8am and 10 pm. 2.9.19 .36 mg x 2. 1.10.19 .32 mg x 2. 26.11.19 .29 mg x2. 26.12.19 .26 mg x 2. 23.1.20 .23 mg x 2. 20.2.20 .21 mg x2.20.3.20 .19 mg x 2. 21.4.20 .17 mg x 2. 19.5.20 .13 mg x 2. 18.6.20 .11mg x 2 .18.7.20.10 mg x 2.1.9.20.09 mg x 2. 30.9. 20 .08 mg x 2. 1.11.20 .07 mg x 2. 2.12.20 .06 mg x 2. 8.1.21 .05 mg x 2. 4.2.21 .04 mg x 2. 9.3.21 .03 mgx2. 7.4.21 .02 mg x 2. 9.5.21 .01 mg x 2. 21.6.21 .01 mg x 1. 11.8.21 ZERO! Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Skyler Posted June 3, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 3, 2015 Martina, the best way to find out about making a solution is to just do it.. no amount of explaining works anywhere near as well. You are taking 50 mg capsules, so get a a 20 cc and a 5 cc oral syringe, and a pill vial that will hold 50 CC of water.. one with a good diameter so you can more easily see what you are doing. Then empty the capsule into the vial, and add 50 cc of water with the 20CC syringe and shake the vial a few times. When you first start to reduce, take out the amount you are reducing by and drink down the remainder. Keep the math simple and use 1 cc of water to 1 mg of Lyrica. But to start.. plan on wasting a capsule or two, just to practice! I use a pill vial that is the same shape as number 49 Dram Amber.. I can see the suspended particles easily, and get the syringe in and out quickly. You can also see the vial here. As always, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! A proud supporter of the 10% (or slower) rule. Requip - 3/16 ZERO Total time on 25 years. Lyrica: 8/15 ZERO Total time on 7 or 8 yrs.BENZO FREE 10/13 (started tapering 7/10) Total time on 25 years. Read my intro thread here, and check the about me section. "No matter how cynical you get, it's almost impossible to keep up." Lily Tomlin Link to comment
Martina23 Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Ok, I will do it. When I am on 25, I will ask the doctor to give me 25 mg tablets and I will use the tablet instead of water solution. And stay on it until there are not so big waves. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Skyler Posted June 4, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 4, 2015 Ok, I will do it. When I am on 25, I will ask the doctor to give me 25 mg tablets and I will use the tablet instead of water solution. And stay on it until there are not so big waves. Only problem I can see with that is you would need to make a liquid to taper safely to 25mgs. I would have been in dreadful straits had I dropped suddenly to 25 from 50. Too fast withdrawal from Lyrica can bring on cramping that is breathtakingly painful. I just had some activated in my feet while I was in bed, got me up in a hurry. They were mild, but were a warning of how bad the cramping can be if I'm not very cautious. Best NOT to go there. Please, be good to yourself, do not mess around with this. As always, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! A proud supporter of the 10% (or slower) rule. Requip - 3/16 ZERO Total time on 25 years. Lyrica: 8/15 ZERO Total time on 7 or 8 yrs.BENZO FREE 10/13 (started tapering 7/10) Total time on 25 years. Read my intro thread here, and check the about me section. "No matter how cynical you get, it's almost impossible to keep up." Lily Tomlin Link to comment
Martina23 Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Yes, I am doing the liquid taper, it is only kind of double check that if I am doing something wrong, and on 25 mg I will take tablet not solution, I will see it as I will have much bigger waves that I should have. For the liquid taper I have only 10 ml syringe. I always give there 10 ml water and take away 3. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
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