Phoenixmama: cold turkey after 3 weeks on Celexa

[Colonial]

Can you explain "lighting feeling"?

[Phoenixmama]

Like static or lightening , it’s not pain but does hurt a little like not in the middle of my chest but both sides that’s what makes me confused if it’s my breast or chest 🤔 it stopped. Now but this wave is weird , and I keep having like and anxiety rush go through my body , I can feel it coming on and being full blown then simmer down , almost like a cortisone rush but feels different. Keeps happening here and there . I hope it’s just my hormones from the cycle coming up @Colonialits been so long since I had a real heavy wave 🌊 

[Colonial]

Sounds to me like you ate an outdated yogurt to be completely honest. 😉

 

Does it move like you felt the pain move up your back shoulder on the side your had your shot or does it just streak across very fast?  It almost sounds like it's mimicking a pinched nerve.

 

Even more, it' sounds like a "brain zap" but in is happening your chest from a cortisol rush.

 

[Phoenixmama]

Yes like the way lighting looks @Colonial and 😂😂😂😂😂 the yogurt 

[Phoenixmama]

I’m wonder if it’s my breast , I noticed in wd my ni&&le$ are sore like pregnancy maybe it’s messing with my breast tissue now 😵‍💫

[Colonial]

Well, brain zaps, jolts, tingling, pins and needles, their all neuro-chemical manifestations of a sort.

I had weird electric bugs running up my skin after a reaction to Cipro-Levaquin.

I wouldn't rule regular wd out but I don't remember anyone expressing it in that way.

 

BUT, I sometimes smell and taste colors and numbers and perceive them in my chest so I would go with a form of neurological over reaction to the cortisol. 

 

You'll settle down. 😉

(Hopefully) 💗

[Phoenixmama]

😂😂😂😂😂 you give me a good laugh Every time , ty you 💞 it’s my bed time  ahahahaha 

[Phoenixmama]

3:am I wake up to use the restroom and I’m just having these weird surges it’s like a feeling that enters my body that progresses , it’s not cortisol I had those before and they would end in sweating , this is different… it’s almost like an anxiety feeling but not , I’m afraid that somethings really wrong with me and I’m passing it off as wd instead of getting help….. I also feel nauseous flu like symptoms….last night I was watching tv and looking at the faces of actors was causing me to have this scared feeling in my body and the anxiety surge to fill my body ☹️ Idk what to do… I never had this kinda wave totally new me there is no familiar feeling or symptoms this time besides the nausea…. Lord please watch over me 🙏🏼

[KenA]

I was up most of the night as well  Haven't had a rough night like that in a couple of weeks!! We are gonna be ok!!! Just gotta make it back to the pillow!! Hang in there!!

[Phoenixmama]

I called in to work today , I feel awful @KenA I’m trying to not trip on my symptoms and just relax but it’s hard … I’m sorry u were up all night it’s not fair that your still having things come up…. We’ll I dropped off the kids at school and made it back to the pillow 😂 I’ll be here on this pillow all day 

[KenA]

@Phoenixmama

I almost called out as well today. But, I figured I could either sit at home and feel bad for no pay, or sit at work and feel bad and get paid! At least I'm making money the other way lol! Yeah, it def sucks to still be having some symptoms, but I've made my peace with it! I know that it's just temporary and I'm gonna feel amazing again! Not sure when, but going through this last time taught me how to sit with it and just let it be! Glad to hear you are back on the pillow!! LOL, I'll be hitting it up here in a few hours. Actually feeling a bit better now though so that's pretty nice. The waves always come to an end at some point! Always!!

 

[Phoenixmama]

Low and behold Aunt Flo just pull up 🤦🏻‍♀️ The reasons for my body going ballistic 🥴😵‍💫She’s a week early too last month she was a week late ,

[Colonial]

Oh yeah?

Well I can top that..

 

I have cream cheese right here "Use By"...

(Not "best" by, but a FIRM "Use by)

 

March, 28th...

 

You know what I think?

I think it's going right on the raisin bagel this instant...

 

2 hours ago, Phoenixmama said:

She’s a week early too last month she was a week late ,

 

So then your actually right on time..

See?

You have everything under control...

Your fine..😉

[Phoenixmama]

@Colonialhow was your bagel ? 🤣 and how is your Sunday 

[Colonial]

Not too good actually.

Thought it would be funny to do a Liver Cleanse.

 

"All Metabolic disfunction starts in the liver" they said...

"Do a fasting Liver cleanse with medicinal ginger and ingredients to lower your blood pressure and blood sugar levels" they said..

 

Oh...

My God...

 

It was like: Fire breathing dragon liquid acid down my throat..

Thought I was going into anaphylaxis the first time I drank it.

Kept at it for 4 days

 

By 2 days ago my blood pressure plummeted from the around usual 160/100 down to 118/56

And today by the time the medics were done with me they said the blood sugar was 106, usually 160 ish.

I was shaking for 3 hours and things were going black now and again.

 

So I had 2 major metabolic functions crashing down into the albeit healthier range, just way too fast...

My heart rate was in the 120's.

 

And while I'm out on the porch with the medics getting an EKG, my dying dog who hadn't moved out of its bed for 19 hours came got up and vomited all over again for the second day in a row..

 

I'm fairly certain she feels quite self justified in this since the one 45 minute stretch I step out on the porch for medical assistance she deigned to get up, so... She will likely inform me this is was fault if and when she ever wakes up again. 😒

 

 

Edited October 4, 2021 by Colonial

[Phoenixmama]

oh wow @Colonial what weekend , hope your feeling better today 

[Phoenixmama]

today has just been s***** so was yesterday.... aunt flo left a big wave behind i can deal with the physical; symptoms but the mental thoughts emotions and feelings are very heavy this time.... anyone wanna talk about cycle waves ??? and give me some tips....please 

[ChessieCat]

I think it is just like regular ADWD waves where we need to try different non drug coping techniques.  And remember that something that worked at another time might not work at different time.  It's good to have a toolbox of the non drug techniques to call on when needed.

 

And sometimes it's just a case of AAF.  This post was made in relation to anxiety, but it is useful for other symptoms too:

 

On 8/9/2021 at 5:06 AM, brassmonkey said:

 

AAF is one of the foundations of self care.

 

AAF: Acknowledge, Accept, Float.  It's what you have to do when nothing else works, and can be a very powerful tool in coping with anxiety.  The neuroemotional anxiety many of us feel during WD is directly caused by the drugs and their chemical reactions in the brain.  Making it so there is nothing we can do about them.  They won't respond to other drugs, relaxation techniques and the like.  They do, however, react very well to being ignored.  That's the concept behind AAF.  Acknowledge, get to know the feeling involved, explore them.  Accept, These feelings are a part of you and they aren't going anywhere fast. Float, let the feeling float off as you get on with your life as best as you can.  It's a well documented fact that the more you feed in to anxiety the worse it gets.  What starts as generalized neuroemotinal anxiety can be easily blown into a full fledged panic attack just by thinking about it.

 

I often liken it to an unwanted house guest.  At first you talk to them, have conversations, communicate with them.  After a while you figure out that they aren't leaving and there is nothing you can do to get rid of them.  So you go on about your day, working around them until they get bored and leave.

 

It can take some practice, but AAF really does work.

 

 

 

[Phoenixmama]

Thanks @ChessieCat 💞

[Fightinghard]

Hey @Phoenixmama!  Just wanted to stop by and say hi and see hire you’re doing?  

[Phoenixmama]

@Fightinghard I’m doing pretty good just coming out of a wave , things aren’t  super but I appreciate the break 🙃…. I have a day off from work today and coincidentally my little one has caught a cold over the weekend , so we are lounging around this morning being gentle on ourselves 🙂

[Phoenixmama]

really bad memory symptoms and the racing thoughts of anything and everything...., the feeling of a dark cloud hanging over me.... im trying my best to be positive but im just so darn tired from wd and thinking im dying from something other then wd..... please lord carry me until im able to walk again 🌞

[Phoenixmama]

I have a sore throat on one side of my throat , I’ve gargled with salt water , curious if you’ve had this in wd or read about it… I’m hoping it’s not strep throat and don’t have to to take antibiotics, if so do you have any natural remedies, so I don’t have to take antibiotics? Or which antibiotics are safe in wd , please help 

[ChessieCat]

If it doesn't get better and you go to the doctor I suggest that you get a test to make sure that you do have a bacterial infection.  Antibiotics do NOT treat viruses.

 

There is a topic about antibiotics.

 

I like to use an internet search engine and add site:survivingantidepressants.org to my search term.

[Phoenixmama]

@ChessieCat thank you 

[Phoenixmama]

@Rosetta hi , I got a throat swab for strep this morning , but the results haven’t came back yet… if I do have strep is there any way for me to skip the antibiotics and do home remedies? My ear also hurts but they didn’t check that 

[ChessieCat]

There is no need to tag me.  Please do not tag me in future for any reason.  Thank you.

 

8 minutes ago, Phoenixmama said:

if I do have strep is there any way for me to skip the antibiotics and do home remedies?

 

SA is a peer support site for tapering psychiatric drugs.  We do not do "general medicine" or "home remedies".

 

If you wish to try non antibiotic remedies please use the internet and do your own research.

[Phoenixmama]

I only tagged you to say thank you , nothing else 

[Rosetta]

Hi.  Two considerations: 

 

1. If you test negative: I used to get a sore throat, randomly, and on only one side.  I felt it was yet another bizarre symptom of withdrawal.  This happened over and over again.  As it didn’t make sense to me to have strep on one side, I didn’t get tested.  That has not happened to me in quite a while.  I feel very strongly that WD can cause odd, inflammatory symptoms at times.

 

2. Over ten years ago, I struggled through strep without antibiotics.  When I decided to do that, I was not aware I was suffering from withdrawal.  It lasted for a long time and was quite miserable.  I was able stay home and avoid everyone.
The issue is that one can be contagious for quite a long while — weeks.  So, antibiotics are prescribed.  Antibiotics reduce the period of contagion.  Otherwise, it can be passed around indefinitely.  That’s one reason why doctors always prescribe antibiotics after a positive test.
 

If you test positive: Given that we wear masks now, perhaps you could try avoiding antibiotics, but you would probably pass it to your daughter.  I suppose it’s possible you caught it from her.  Even if that’s the case, I would wear a mask at home until I tested negative for strep if I had a child at home.  Don’t let her eat or drink after you.  There is something called PANDAS that people can develop from strep.  You should look that up.

 

You should look up the other risks of letting strep go without antibiotics. Make an informed decision.  There are some life threatening conditions possible.  There are some permanent issues that are rare, but concerning.  These are other reasons that doctors always prescribe antibiotics for strep.

There are several antibiotics that are much safer than others for people in withdrawal.  So, if you feel you need antibiotics, there are options.

 

Rosetta

[Phoenixmama]

Thank you so much ❤️ , just in case I find out the results and it’s positive what are the safer antibiotics? I’m scared to give it to my little girl 

[Phoenixmama]

@Rosetta I pray it’s not positive, I now have a earache to go along with it , but that’s all no fever 

[ChessieCat]

19 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

 

There is a topic about antibiotics.

 

I like to use an internet search engine and add site:survivingantidepressants.org to my search term.

 

 

[Phoenixmama]

@Rosetta it’s negative ❤️ But still hurts badly ,every time I swallow 

[Rosetta]

It could be a virus that caused a sore throat, and your body is having a lopsided response due to WD.  What I do when I have a sore throat is eat a lot of ice cream.😁

[Phoenixmama]

🙀 omg yumm!!!!! @Rosetta I am going to find the lowest in sugar healthiest ice cream now ☺️☺️☺️☺️

[Rosetta]

The sugar will mess with your mind, so be careful.  Eat extra protein before and after the ice cream.  That will slow down the absorption of the sugar into your bloodstream.  Ice cream has some protein.  Don’t get anything with artificial, chemical sweeteners, of course.