Littlegrandma Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Fatty. Haha it does feel good to have an appetite back. Even chocolate cake and ice cream this week. I've cut out most sugars 5-6 mo ago but going out for ice cream is date night. I was forcing it down at times but now it comes easy. Glad you got out for lunch. Probably like me last night... just wishing it was enjoyable like it used to be. I look at other people and wonder if they're going through w/d or ever been on an antidepressant. I know it's stupid but right now I have a one track mind. Looking forward to the day when I don't even think of lexapro and w/d. Still afraid I'll never feel "good". But I know the last 3 days have made great strides. But nothing seems real. So foggy. Is the tinnitus suppose to go with the rest of the symptoms eventually? Anybody else on the forum suffering that also? I've heard a lot about ringing in the ears. I get that. But tinnitus would be enough to cause anxiety in itself. Did Jude and Luisa go for lunch with you? Madelyn wanted to go last night but there wasn't room in the truck for a car seat. And Lauren didn't want to go. She would have been fine but it was pretty relaxing without kids. I do lunch with both kids and my mom quite often. Jonathan is at the age he doesn't want to stay in the high chair. So we have to go to kid friendly restaurant and it usually ends up being McDonald's. 🤢 Paul has 2 more nights, hopefully. If it goes into Monday night he won't be happy. He's getting pretty burnt out. He sleeps well during the day but not as many hours as he'd like or needs. He feels obligated to spend a little time with me before he goes in. Which is great but I don't want him to get sick. That shift change is rough on a young body. And we're old farts. Hope your evening is relaxing. I can't wait to have Paul back with me at night. Even though I'm not much for tv, I like hanging out doing puzzles or games while he watches. And really can't wait til I want to do something besides hang on the couch. I miss our evening adventures. Walks, drives, dinners. Oh well. Soon!! Going to take a walk. Enjoy the rest of your night. Hugs Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Scorpio Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Hi lg oh it would be so nice to tuck into chocolate cake and ice cream but bit bothered by sugar. I agree. I sat in the restaurant wishing myself to relax and enjoy it rather than endure and get through it. I’m the same my symptoms overule everything I worry all the time that it won’t ever balance. I know what a window feels like had them on this horrible drug and haven’t had one since w/d and reinstating. The tinnitus started two months after I started this drug when in windows it goes when I am feeling better it almost goes but not quite. At the moment it’s noisy and intrusive. Yes jude and Luisa were with us all day. Fortunately he slept through the whole lunch but moaned a lot when we were in shops so each of us took it in turn to carry him. He was not keen on his buggy until he got tired. You will relax so much more when Paul is back with you and you have company in the evenings and as you say can get out and about. Enjoy your walk, you dragged yourself off the settee, well done. Hugs 2006 After sudden death of mother put on 20mg of citaloprom for depression. 2014 Drug stopped working after two weeks of panic attacks felt fine. Aug 2014. Doctor put me on lyrica for rash on face, diarrhoea, sleeplessness,muscle cramp, bruising. Initial dose too strong, halved dose. Stopped taking it 22/10/14 2014 severe anxiety after several ssri's attempted, seem to have developed severe sensitivity to any drug, but giving severe reactions put on cipralex drop form.started on 2 drops and had to increase by 1 drop every 3 days. Eventually got to 12 drops and had to stop as side effects every step of the way dreadful. Psychiatrist kept telling me to stick with it and my body would get used to it. Eventually down to 8 drops. Bad reactions throughout the time I was on it Have been on this until may 2017. Stopped over two weeks. Felt fine for 5 weeks after initial dizziness, nightmares, nausea, insomnia. Given diazepam by gp and told to take them when anxiety bad. Have only taken them very rarely as they frighten me. Last two weeks severe anxiety returned and feeling hopeless 11July 2017. Cipralex 2mg. Anxiety, nausea still severe 13 July 2017 Cipralex 1mg due to advice of too high dosage by kind person on thus site. so dropped from 2mg to 1mg and feelings of anxiety still at severe. As well as nausea, headaches, fatigue. 15 July still feeling extremely anxious verging on panic. Nausea, feelings of fainting, fatigue. Lots of head pains 3 August. Three weeks into trying to stabilise on one drop of cipralex. Still have waking from 4am. Sporadic upset stomach. Nausea. High anxiety. Throbbing/burning in nether regions seems to have eased for time being but stabbing/burning in calves of legs. Tinnitus. Occasional half to whole better days but mainly still struggling. Fatigue Link to comment
Boysmommy2 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Hi littlegrandma I hope you are feeling better? I have been so busy working and tonight was trick or treat I love all the little ones🌞I haven't been feeling too bad lately one perk of being busy I guess lol. Just wanted to say hi and wish you a good week😀 Celexa 40mg on it for approximately14 months weaned off July 5, 2017 Ativan 0.5 mg as needed (2-3 times a week) Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 Hey B glad you're feeling better. That's wonderful!! Maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel. The kids trick or treat on the 31st here. But we live in the country, so we don't get the kids at our house. I miss that. We lived in town when my kids were little and I loved Halloween. But I did take the kids downtown for merchants T or T the other day. The weather was great. There were hundreds of kids. Party atmosphere and my grandkids were well behaved and had a blast. Yesterday was not good for me but today is so much better, after a rough start. I got some stuff done around the house. Then my husband and I took a drive. Delivered pumpkins and went out for ice cream. Date night. Haha so good to hear from you, B. Hope you have a good work week. So glad you're feeling good.... even on the weekend. Yay. Lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 Hi i don't know how to send the link, but Elizabeth Kenny has a great speech on TedMed, for anybody that hasn't seen it. Its called on a scale of 1-10, how crazy are you? very interesting and we can all relate. Lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Hi Bubble i need advice from mods. I have moved the time I take lex from 9 pm to 7 am(today). After the first week, all hell broke loose. I went from sleeping 5 or 6 hours to not sleeping as of a week ago. I doze on and off for 2 hours, waking every 10-15 min with a jolt of anxiety. I have trembling, restless anxiety. Close to akathasia again. This has not let up during the day. When I suffered this for 2 months, I was inpatient and lex was reduced by 50% over a week. The akathasia let up as well as the trembling pretty much after several days. I am wanting to reduce the lex now and see if the symptoms will let up a bit. This is the worse I've felt in over 2 months since my last reduction. I was having afternoons and evenings of calm. Now I'm a trembling, depressed mess. I'm scared, tired, and can't take much more. Need advice. I'm ready to throw in the towel, rip the band aid off. I don't think it can get much worse. Thanks lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted November 5, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said: I don't think it can get much worse. I wrote in your benzo thread. Unfortunately things can and for many people do get worse. If only moving the dose caused so much destabilisation, can you imagine what reducing would do? I think this experiment showed how super sensitive your system is. Your brain sent you a clear message: I can't deal with changes. Throwing the towel sounds like a good idea to me but not in the way you think: throw in the towel on trying to fix things. I believe you will start stabilising again as long as you keep things steady and stable and adjust to the new dosing time. If there is no improvement after a week you might consider moving the dose back a bit. Maybe somebody else will have a different perspective but that is what I would do. Edited November 5, 2017 by bubble Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Thank you Bubble Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted November 5, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 5, 2017 Hi, Littlegrandma, I'm sorry you're having such a hard time. I have been tapering Lexapro for almost a year now. I have found that when symptoms get bad, what works best for me is to huddle down into a nice long hold. I know there is the desire to DO something, but believe me, holding is definitely doing something. It's allowing your CNS to catch up to changes, Your CNS needs to get used to the shift to morning dosing. It also needs to settle down from the 50% drop you did before. I hope you get some relief soon. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of May 2: 6.1mg Taper is 92% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Thank you Gridley i really know that. I do. I'm just tired of this, like everybody else. I so want my life back. I will try to remain calm and wait it out. I appreciate you stopping by and your kind words. It means a lot to me. I just feel so alone, even when my house is full of family. This forum makes me see I'm not the only one suffering and not so alone. xx lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
direstraits Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I'm sorry u are suffering so much right now,my heart goes out to you. I understand how lonely this all can feel but you'll never be alone here. we're all in this together xx big hugs,ds went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Thanks DS. Hugs back to you xx lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted November 28, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 28, 2017 Hi LG: Just wanted to stop by and say hi. Hope you are having a better day than yesterday. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
bheb Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Hi from me too. Also suffering from agitation and akathisia/akathisia-like sensations. Hope you've seen some improvement. Aug-Dec 2015 Prozac 20mg / Dec 2015-Feb 2016 Prozac 15mg / Feb 2016-May2016 Prozac 20mg May 2016-June 2016 15mg June 2016-August 2016 10mg October 2016-January 2017 15mg, alternating agitation/akathisia sets in --> cold turkey January 2017 Clonazepam .5mg February 2017 Clonazepam 1mg (for a week) then .5mg morning and .25mg evening for about a month. Came down to .25mg morning and evening. May 1, 2017 Clonazepam .25mg morning and .125mg evening. // May 20, 2017 Clonazepam .25mg morning and .0625 evening (.3125 total). early June .28125 // early mid june .25mg // mid june .21875 // late june .1875 // early july .15625 // early mid july .125 mid july .09375mg // late july .0625 //early August 2017 down to .03125mg once a day, hopped off in mid August reinstated at .0625mg late August // Oct 16 - updose to .07mg and switch to oral Rosemont solution Nov 17 2017 reinstate Prozac .5mg // Nov 21 2017 prozac 1.6mg // Dec 18 2017 3mg prozac / fast taper off the reinstatement -- probably completely off early Oct 2018 June 2019 begin tapering off .07mg Clonazepam, Finish taper December 2019 Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Hi you guys. Thanks for checking in. Bad day today. I can’t believe things could get worse but they did. Skin burning as well as my eyes. Had to take the baby to the doctor. Should not have been driving. The stomach pain is incredible. My whole body hurts. Depression is overwhelming and I can’t stop crying. Aren’t you glad you asked? Haha this kid is jumping all over me. I’ll check in with you later. Thanks you guys. Sorry I’m such a downer. Really scared. xx lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted November 28, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, Littlegrandma said: Hi you guys. Thanks for checking in. Bad day today. I can’t believe things could get worse but they did. Skin burning as well as my eyes. Had to take the baby to the doctor. Should not have been driving. The stomach pain is incredible. My whole body hurts. Depression is overwhelming and I can’t stop crying. Aren’t you glad you asked? Haha this kid is jumping all over me. I’ll check in with you later. Thanks you guys. Sorry I’m such a downer. Really scared. xx lg I'm so sorry you are having such a bad day. You are not a downer or we wouldn't keep in touch. I have cried all day. My fiancé said to order the stuff, so I've spent all morning doing that, then he told me what credit card to put it on. I called him and told him I needed the credit card number and he said he had to look at the list before I placed the order. So I feel very useless. Sorry I'm a downer too. Feel better. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Frogie said: I'm so sorry you are having such a bad day. You are not a downer or we wouldn't keep in touch. I have cried all day. My fiancé said to order the stuff, so I've spent all morning doing that, then he told me what credit card to put it on. I called him and told him I needed the credit card number and he said he had to look at the list before I placed the order. So I feel very useless. Sorry I'm a downer too. Feel better. Take care, Frogie xx Hey Frogie. Its probably just the old adage measure twice. Cut once. He probably just wants to check and recheck before he makes the long drive. We’re 15 min from Home Depot and have had to go back after buying the wrong thing...... more than once. I’m sure he trusts you, but I know my husband would double and triple check me in this case. And himself. It’s a lot of money and time involved. Get it right the first time. You are not useless. That’s wd thinking and talking. Are you crying because you’re depressed from wd or just this situation. Probably a lot of both. Have a nice sit down tonight and talk it out. It’s great you share your feelings with us but you need to let your fiancé know what you’re thinking too. Don’t hold it in. Your stressing yourself out and you’re going to suffer because of it. You’re ruminating. Talk it over. Write it down. Get it out. Let it go. Dont let this sh###y wd do your thinking. Big hugs XX lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted November 28, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 28, 2017 22 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said: Hey Frogie. Its probably just the old adage measure twice. Cut once. He probably just wants to check and recheck before he makes the long drive. We’re 15 min from Home Depot and have had to go back after buying the wrong thing...... more than once. I’m sure he trusts you, but I know my husband would double and triple check me in this case. And himself. It’s a lot of money and time involved. Get it right the first time. You are not useless. That’s wd thinking and talking. Are you crying because you’re depressed from wd or just this situation. Probably a lot of both. Have a nice sit down tonight and talk it out. It’s great you share your feelings with us but you need to let your fiancé know what you’re thinking too. Don’t hold it in. Your stressing yourself out and you’re going to suffer because of it. You’re ruminating. Talk it over. Write it down. Get it out. Let it go. Dont let this sh###y wd do your thinking. Big hugs XX lg Thanks LG: Most of my crying is over all this stupid remodeling. First he says order it then he says he has to check it. You are so lucky to be 10 minutes away from a Home Depot. We used to be. I can understand that he wants to check it, but he needs to trust me too. It goes both ways. I've tried to talk to him. He just wants to get it done and overwith. I think he might have bitten off more than he knew. Like the floor, he never thought he would have to take down the wall between the bedroom and bathroom, but the subfloor was rotten. If you're going to do it, do it right. I just want it done. Can't talk tonight. He has a meeting at work. Tomorrow night he and the neighbor are going to pick up the stuff. So hopefully when I see everything here, I'll be better. I'll know it's going to get done and then I can gave my granddaughter. He was talking last night about having our renter keep an eye on things when we move and he would pay him. So, I think he's serious about going home. Just wish it wasn't so long down the road. Are you a grandma? I just ask because you said you had to take the baby to the dr. I hope the baby is ok. I hope you are better. Thanks for thinking of me. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Yes. I am a grandma. I was going to say that’s why my name is littlegrandma, but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything. You’re certainly not a frog. And the baby is ok. He’s snotty and feverish. Been pulling at his ear. Just wanted to make sure he didn’t have an ear infection. We are heading to St. Louis for a long weekend. His 5 yr old sister is the flower girl in my nephews wedding. Any kind of home remodeling always entails more than you expect. It’ll get done girl. If not completely, hopefully enough for your granddaughter to use. At least the hole repaired. She’d probably be happy sleeping on the couch as s long as she gets to visit with you. Frogie, it’s all going to work out. Try not to worry too much. Not good for you. xx. Lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted November 29, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Littlegrandma said: Yes. I am a grandma. I was going to say that’s why my name is littlegrandma, but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything. You’re certainly not a frog. And the baby is ok. He’s snotty and feverish. Been pulling at his ear. Just wanted to make sure he didn’t have an ear infection. We are heading to St. Louis for a long weekend. His 5 yr old sister is the flower girl in my nephews wedding. Any kind of home remodeling always entails more than you expect. It’ll get done girl. If not completely, hopefully enough for your granddaughter to use. At least the hole repaired. She’d probably be happy sleeping on the couch as s long as she gets to visit with you. Frogie, it’s all going to work out. Try not to worry too much. Not good for you. xx. Lg Thanks LG: I really appreciate the encouragement. My fiancé came home before his meeting. It wasn't the right tile that I had picked out, so we got that straightened out. But what he was mad about was he never heard me ask him if he wanted dinner. And he doesn't care about my granddaughter coming out until it's done. So that's ok. I did ask him if he wanted dinner, he just never heard me. We got that straightened out and he was happy after I explained that he never heard me. So it's all a huge misunderstanding. He gave me a kiss and said he loved me before he went to his meeting. I hope the baby is going to be ok. Good luck with the wedding. Let me know how it goes. Thanks again. Take care, Frogie xx (I'm not a frog lol... I'm a women 54 year old women) PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Hi. I am sending out a call for help. Shep suggested I post on this thread to see about tapering lexapro. My symptoms are getting worse with new new ones all the time. I am getting broken sleep from about 10 til 1 it 2 am. I wake with extreme anxiety and back to akathasia. I tremble most of the day. Sunday, nov 26 was the start of the worse days I’ve had in 3 months. Pins and needles turned to skin burn. My face felt like it was on fire. It moved to my eyes yesterday. The left eye pain was extreme and had limited vision. My brain felt numb with pressure. I could not form rational thoughts. Except for the burning skin, my body felt like it was shutting down, starting in my brain. D/P D/R is prevalent. My body is so weak and wobbly, I can hardly move. I have ave been eating a healthy diet. Mostly vegetable smoothies with fruit for taste. Eggs, nuts, peanut butter, yogurt, cheese, fish, chicken and lean beef. No sugar or caffeine. Little carbs. In 5 months I’ve had few windows. Never a full day and never completely symptom free. I felt better after the 50% reduction of lexapro from 10 to 5 mg back in August. At that time akathasia stopped and I had relatively peaceful afternoons and evenings. The morning cortisol rush had even stopped after a few weeks. I was able to care for my grandkids without much effort. Now, getting out of bed is an effort. If I felt like I was moving forward, I could be more patient. But I am going backwards. Please, I need advice. My family wants me to see a doctor. Over the last months they were saying, whether I could see it or not, they saw improvement. Now they’re saying it’s time to get help. Since i I saw big improvement even reducing a large amount, I’m wondering if maybe it’s time to taper again. I never felt well on lexapro. Besides apathy, anxiety started ramping up the 2nd year on it. That is why I decided to go off of it. I was golden at 7.5 mg but downhill after that with going up and down on my dose. Advice would be appreciated. Hope you are all doing well. Thanks, lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted November 29, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 29, 2017 Hi LG: I don't have the trembling, or burning. This last time I tapered I got akasthisia for a few days. First time I ever had it. Scared me silly, so I can imagine how scared you must feel. Maybe try a 5% taper. Wait a week, and if that helps then leave your dosage there, if not you can always go up again. You may have to go up in dosage for a while too. I did. I tapered and it didn't agree. I had to taper up for about 3 months I think it was. Apace41 was awesome in helping me. I'm not a mod or a dr, but like I said it might help to to a very small taper. I know you said that Xanax helped you more than Ativan. Can you go back to Xanax? I don't like telling people to take a benzo because you have to taper off, but you are already on it. Can you take maybe a little larger dose of Ativan? Maybe that would help. I know, I'm reaching for anything that might help. I don't want to give you any bad advice at all. Like I said, I'm not a mod or a dr. Hopefully Apace41 will see this and be able to help you. He is great. I wish you luck. Let me know what you decide and how you are feeling. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
bheb Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Sorry lg about the return of akathisia. I hope it goes away very very soon once you get the Lexapro figured out. Aug-Dec 2015 Prozac 20mg / Dec 2015-Feb 2016 Prozac 15mg / Feb 2016-May2016 Prozac 20mg May 2016-June 2016 15mg June 2016-August 2016 10mg October 2016-January 2017 15mg, alternating agitation/akathisia sets in --> cold turkey January 2017 Clonazepam .5mg February 2017 Clonazepam 1mg (for a week) then .5mg morning and .25mg evening for about a month. Came down to .25mg morning and evening. May 1, 2017 Clonazepam .25mg morning and .125mg evening. // May 20, 2017 Clonazepam .25mg morning and .0625 evening (.3125 total). early June .28125 // early mid june .25mg // mid june .21875 // late june .1875 // early july .15625 // early mid july .125 mid july .09375mg // late july .0625 //early August 2017 down to .03125mg once a day, hopped off in mid August reinstated at .0625mg late August // Oct 16 - updose to .07mg and switch to oral Rosemont solution Nov 17 2017 reinstate Prozac .5mg // Nov 21 2017 prozac 1.6mg // Dec 18 2017 3mg prozac / fast taper off the reinstatement -- probably completely off early Oct 2018 June 2019 begin tapering off .07mg Clonazepam, Finish taper December 2019 Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Thanks bheb me too! hope you’re doing ok. Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus apace41 Posted November 29, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Littlegrandma said: In 5 months I’ve had few windows. Never a full day and never completely symptom free. I felt better after the 50% reduction of lexapro from 10 to 5 mg back in August. At that time akathasia stopped and I had relatively peaceful afternoons and evenings. The morning cortisol rush had even stopped after a few weeks. I was able to care for my grandkids without much effort. Now, getting out of bed is an effort. Hi, LG. I'm sorry to see you struggling so badly and, while I know this is little solace for you, rest assured that your situation is not unique and you are simply caught in the throes of withdrawal. The pattern you relate is VERY common, i.e., that in the aftermath of a big cut (or even a cold turkey) people can feel much better. Then, after some period of time, as much as 9-12 months that I've seen, people can get hit with protracted withdrawal and see the S hit the fan in a big way. So, while it SEEMED like you were doing well after the big cut, your body was simply taking time to adjust to life with less of the Lexapro. Now that it has your CNS is not happy and is trying to find homeostasis. It is all part of a continuum and, given time, your system will adjust again. Time is the key and to the extent you can reduce your stress (not likely if you are caring for grandkids) your recovery is likely to be quicker. 2 hours ago, Littlegrandma said: If I felt like I was moving forward, I could be more patient. But I am going backwards. Again, a common refrain. By way of comparison (not that any two people are alike), I have had a couple of extended holds during which period I felt like I was slipping the whole time. The reality is that healing is happening, but it is beneath the surface in many cases so it seems like its not. If you read enough stories you will see this repeated over and over. 2 hours ago, Littlegrandma said: Please, I need advice. My family wants me to see a doctor. Over the last months they were saying, whether I could see it or not, they saw improvement. Now they’re saying it’s time to get help. If there were doctors who would help that would be great. If you found the "diamond in the rough" who would put you on a good mind-body program and discuss diet and coping skills then great. 99.9% of doctors will simply try to put you on another psych med -- most likely Abilify these days -- maybe even the kind that tracks compliance. If you do go to the doctor to appease the family I would strongly suggest you not accept the recommendation for more drugs as that will place you further down the rabbit hole. 2 hours ago, Littlegrandma said: Since i I saw big improvement even reducing a large amount, I’m wondering if maybe it’s time to taper again. See my answer above. The only caveat to this is that you say you "never felt well" on Lexapro. For people who have a true "adverse reaction" to a medicine we might be inclined to recommend a "quick taper" off. While you had discomfort on Lexapro it does not seem like it was of the magnitude that one would see it as a true "adverse reaction" and, as such, I think the risks of a fast taper are greater than trying to stabilize where you are. I think the large cut you made in August provides a peek into the problems that might occur a few months down the road if you were to start a rapid taper now. My instinct is for you to try to hold on an ride this out as best as you can. Reasonable minds can differ on this stuff but I'm concerned that your CNS has absorbed a lot of bouncing around of late and simply needs time to find stability. Best, Andy Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg from 2000 -- symptoms of dizziness Spring 2012 increased to .5 Clonazapam and 100mg Sertraline -- no improvement Benzo microtaper from November 2012 to November 2014 (followed benzo sites "taper benzo first") Started Sertraline taper in December 2014 cut by 25mg to 75mg; 62.5mg 1/1/15 and 50mg on 2/1/15 Held at 50mg through April 5 to use liquid Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet of 25mg on 10/5/15 Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy while tapering -- Horrible insomnia -- back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016 10/16 -- 11/18 tapered very slowly to 10.6mg. No real improvement and never really stable so updosed to 12.5mg (1/2 a pill) for convenience and long hold. After 8+ months of holding with no noticeable improvement decided to add .4ml of liquid Prozac (about 1.5mg) to see if that improves the situation Supplements, Magnesium, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine, Vit. C, Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Andy, thank you even though this is not what I wanted to hear. I’m desperate to get my life back. I know we all are. The depression is overwhelming me. I have to play a game with my granddaughter while her little brother is napping. But I’ll mull this over later and get back to you. I just wanted to acknowledge your post. I appreciate it so much. Lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Flowers Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Hi Lg So sorry that you are in a bad way. Just wanted to say I am thinking of you. Sending love and hugs Flowers xxx 15 yrs on 20 to 30 mgs CITALOPRAM. MAY 2014 Increased to 40 mgs per day.SEPT/NOV 2014 tapered in 6 weeks down to 10 mgs as per Dr instructions due to violent nightmares/palpitations.Given Noctamid (lormetazepam) to help with anxiety. On average took 2mg per day for 8 weeks.No taper was advised.DEC 2014 WD severe. Nervous tic in eyes and limbs, muscle pain,fluct temp, weakness, dep and anxiety, nausea, giddy, unstable when walking. Different Dr suggested taking 20mgs CIT. BROMAZEPAM 3mgs up to 3 x daily for anxiety.DEC 9 2014 Updose CIT to 30mgs. Only taking BROMAZEPAM in emergency.DEC 31 2014 Settling at 30mg CIT - helping with depression. No Brom for 2wks.Found SA.APR 2015 Trying to stabilise on 30mgs CIT. JAN 2016 Started Cit Taper reducing by 5% per month. 28.5 mgs FEB Taper held bereavement. APR Taper resumed 27mgs . MAY 25.50 mgs . JUNE 24 mgs . JULY I stupidly mixed up my BP meds with CIT. Consequently took no CIT for 3 days and doubled my BP meds. Waiting for the fallout....Holding for a while until any chance of repercussions have abated. SEPT taper resumed to 22.5 mgs . OCT 21 mgs .NOV 19.95 mgs DEC crashed. 2017: FEB 3rd updose to 20.5 mgs to try to stabilise.FEB.switched over to 75mgs of Venlafaxine XR for 3 weeks.Too stimulating so switching back to Cit. 12 March 37.5 Ven and 20 Cit. 21 March 18mg Ven 20mg Cit. 4 April 9mg Ven 20mg Cit. Xanax .50mg when needed. 13 April 0 mgs Ven, 20mg Citalopram. Xanax .50 mg per day. 5 May reinstated a small amount of Ven to stabilize 1 mg twice a day. 20 mg Citalopram at night. Xanax .25 mg twice per day.Other Meds: Losartan (BP)Started 1993 at 50 mgs at night. Seretide (Asthma) Started 1996 at 1 puff twice a day. Jan 2019 Antibiotic Ceclor 500mgs twice a day for bronchitis and Atrovent 2ml capsules twice a day for asthma. Finished the course of both Jan 17. XANAX Jan 27 - Feb 3 2019 Failed Valium Crossover. Feb 14 2019 Updosed Xanax by .0625 Feb 17 2019 Decreased Xanax by .0625. Back to .50mg daily. Update Xanax 28.2.20 tapered to .1250 mg 8am .25 mg midnight. Update Xanax 11.8.21 tapered to .25 mg at night. Current Meds 28.2.19: CITALOPRAM 20mg taken at midnight. VENLAFAXINE .9 mg twice a day at 8am and 10pm. XANAX .50 mg split into 4 doses per day. 10am .0625mg / 2pm .1250mg/ 6pm .0625mg / midnight .25mg.Update 10.8.22 .25 mg at night. LOSARTAN 50 mgs taken at midnight. SERETIDE 1 puff taken at 8am and 10pm. 7.7.19 VENLAFAXINE UPDATE: Started tapering 10% every 4 weeks. Currently .4 mg twice a day at 8am and 10 pm. 2.9.19 .36 mg x 2. 1.10.19 .32 mg x 2. 26.11.19 .29 mg x2. 26.12.19 .26 mg x 2. 23.1.20 .23 mg x 2. 20.2.20 .21 mg x2.20.3.20 .19 mg x 2. 21.4.20 .17 mg x 2. 19.5.20 .13 mg x 2. 18.6.20 .11mg x 2 .18.7.20.10 mg x 2.1.9.20.09 mg x 2. 30.9. 20 .08 mg x 2. 1.11.20 .07 mg x 2. 2.12.20 .06 mg x 2. 8.1.21 .05 mg x 2. 4.2.21 .04 mg x 2. 9.3.21 .03 mgx2. 7.4.21 .02 mg x 2. 9.5.21 .01 mg x 2. 21.6.21 .01 mg x 1. 11.8.21 ZERO! Link to comment
wantrelief Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Hi LG - I read through your thread and wanted to say that I am really sorry for everything you've been through and are going through......you are one strong lady! -1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD) -10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot -Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram -Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015 -8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?) - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg). Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin Citalopram taper: 2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg; 4/27/24: 1.06 mg; 5/4/24: 1.04 mg; 5/11/24: 1.01 mg; 5/18/24: .99 mg Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 WR thank you so much. What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger, right? We’re all going to be much stronger for this. I keep saying I will never take life for granted again. The little things will be so precious. I’ve had many days I think I can’t go on, but day after day I put one wobbly foot in front of the other. So looking forward to a window. I’ve had hours of feeling good. Oh, that’s a treat. Can’t remember a life of that anymore. But when it returns, I’m going to run with it. Thanks for checking in on me. Hope you’re doing ok. Lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted November 29, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said: WR thank you so much. What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger, right? We’re all going to be much stronger for this. I keep saying I will never take life for granted again. The little things will be so precious. I’ve had many days I think I can’t go on, but day after day I put one wobbly foot in front of the other. So looking forward to a window. I’ve had hours of feeling good. Oh, that’s a treat. Can’t remember a life of that anymore. But when it returns, I’m going to run with it. Thanks for checking in on me. Hope you’re doing ok. Lg LG: I'm so sorry you are going through this. I wish we could all be over with all of this and be happy and healthy. I hope you feel better soon. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Flowers said: Hi Lg So sorry that you are in a bad way. Just wanted to say I am thinking of you. Sending love and hugs Flowers xxx Hugs back Flowers happy you’re back in a window. Now to get rid of the nasty uti. What a waste of a window!! Thanks for checking in. Appreciate it so much. Hugs xx lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
wantrelief Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said: WR thank you so much. What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger, right? We’re all going to be much stronger for this. I keep saying I will never take life for granted again. The little things will be so precious. I’ve had many days I think I can’t go on, but day after day I put one wobbly foot in front of the other. So looking forward to a window. I’ve had hours of feeling good. Oh, that’s a treat. Can’t remember a life of that anymore. But when it returns, I’m going to run with it. Thanks for checking in on me. Hope you’re doing ok. Lg Indeed, one wobbly foot in front of the other (I liked that)! I keep thinking how much people take for granted, well, that I have taken for granted. I do think withdrawal teaches us to appreciate the small things. I'll be thinking about you and hoping you experience that window. -1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD) -10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot -Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram -Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015 -8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?) - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg). Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin Citalopram taper: 2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg; 4/27/24: 1.06 mg; 5/4/24: 1.04 mg; 5/11/24: 1.01 mg; 5/18/24: .99 mg Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Frogie said: LG: I'm so sorry you are going through this. I wish we could all be over with all of this and be happy and healthy. I hope you feel better soon. Take care, Frogie xx Me too Frogie. I wish happiness and health for all. This is no way to live, that’s for sure. I cringe when I hear of people going on these meds. My friends 20 something year old son just started AD’s. I told him to get him to stop any way he can. So sad that people are being prescribed these for incidental reasons. Your fiance on his journey to pick up supplies yet? How exciting. It’s going to be awesome when it’s finished. Take care Frogie. XX lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, wantrelief said: Indeed, one wobbly foot in front of the other (I liked that)! I keep thinking how much people take for granted, well, that I have taken for granted. I do think withdrawal teaches us to appreciate the small things. I'll be thinking about you and hoping you experience that window. Awwww. Thank you. You’ll know. I’ll be shouting it from the rooftop Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted November 29, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Littlegrandma said: Me too Frogie. I wish happiness and health for all. This is no way to live, that’s for sure. I cringe when I hear of people going on these meds. My friends 20 something year old son just started AD’s. I told him to get him to stop any way he can. So sad that people are being prescribed these for incidental reasons. Your fiance on his journey to pick up supplies yet? How exciting. It’s going to be awesome when it’s finished. Take care Frogie. XX lg It's sad. I hope he gets off of it ASAP. I think the Drs get paid by the pharmaceutical companies to prescribe this stuff. My fiancé is going tomorrow to pick it up, so hopefully he will be working hard on it this weekend. I just want it done. I'll be so glad when I'm off. I just hope I'll be ok. Hope you will feel better very soon. I saw Apace41 wrote you. Follow him, he is great! Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Littlegrandma Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, Frogie said: It's sad. I hope he gets off of it ASAP. I think the Drs get paid by the pharmaceutical companies to prescribe this stuff. My fiancé is going tomorrow to pick it up, so hopefully he will be working hard on it this weekend. I just want it done. I'll be so glad when I'm off. I just hope I'll be ok. Hope you will feel better very soon. I saw Apace41 wrote you. Follow him, he is great! Take care, Frogie xx Yes, I have a million questions for Apace. Want to wait til the kids go home and I can group my thoughts. Oh, I thought the pickup was tonight. One more day. Youll be fine Frogie. We’re all going to be fine- once we cross these hot coals. That’s the way I felt yesterday. My skin was on fire. Im trying to type and play trick or treat at the same time. So confusing. Happy Halloween. Haha. Lg Lex 4.3mg, 3/2/18 Ativan ,5 mg, lunesta 2 mg , toprol 25 mg Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta jan 22 2019- 11 mg V jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. Hold taper july 5- 10.72 V July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 25 mg toprol Link to comment
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