Erell: struggling with paroxetine

[ten0275]

@Erell, hi.

 

I'm sorry to hear you are struggling. I know it's a heavy burden to bear and you have my full compassion. You also have my admiration in your strength to endure it.

 

Those activation symptoms you describe are understandably disquieting. They wash in upon us with vigor during the waves. The restless feelings and urges to escape - "restless legs" all over - that inner agitation used to make me feel like I wanted to run down the street screaming. I felt I could not be still. The intrusive thoughts and surges are more pronounced as well as they walk hand-in-hand with the stresses that the symptoms put on our bodies and minds. There is too much for the brain to process. I remember that too. I couldn't ride in a car because things were passing by too fast, my brain couldn't take the stimulation that was coming in through my eyes. Sounds, even slight noises, startled me. If I went outside, I was blind until my eyes adjusted. And when I returned indoors, again the blindness until my eyes adjusted. And sometimes that adjustment took a long while. I was frightened of everything.

 

Your new symptoms were also experienced by me. I went through cyclical periods of not being able to eat anything. I did what I could, but some days I'd only get in 200 to 300 calories. And the inner vibrations; for me this was a feeling of instability, and also sometimes jarring, like the feeling of two rubber school erasers being rubbed together.

 

What you describe is... suffering. It's a suffering that is unfortunately part of the process of what we go through when we withdraw from medications that have asserted control over our biochemistry. The suffering however is to a greater end, as our minds and bodies have the capacity to restore and heal. This is the path you are on - the path towards restoration and healing. And you will get there. I didn't think I would get there - and when I was where you are, I struggled so mightily just to get through the minutes, hours, and days. The struggle was well worth it. I know that now in hindsight. You'll see.

 

Hang in there,

Dave

[Cigale]

@Erell - I am so sorry that you have to endure such challenges. Even with all you are going through, I swear I can feel your strength and hope in every word you write. I am holding you in my heart. 

[Altostrata]

Erell, how do you feel shortly after you take fluoxetine? Do you feel the effect of the drug?

[Erell]

51 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Erell, how do you feel shortly after you take fluoxetine? Do you feel the effect of the drug?

 

I don't feel different after taking Fluoxetine.

Symptoms don't seem to be impacted by the fact that I take my dose.

 

I take my dose at 8 am.

 

It seems that I have 2 slightly easier moments during the day : around 11am / around 6pm.

 

I have been wondering if I was having an adverse reaction to Fluoxetine, but it seems weird after 4 months.

Before August, I had my usual symptoms of a destabilised CNS (chemical anxiety/depression).

Restlessness state only appeared in August.

Edited August 28, 2020 by Erell

[Erell]

@Altostrata :

 

As an example, here are my daily notes for Thursday 27 :

 

5.30am : woke up. Restlessness in legs in all body. Do some yoga.

 

7.30am : toothpick Paroxetine + 1 fish oil. + breakfast.

Mental restlessness/surges to escape/doom/ intrusive thoughts and physical need to move.

Strong nauseas. 

 

8am : 7mg Fluoxetine. 

Mental restlessness and physical need to move (same as earlier).

Try to distract with cleaning.

 

9.30am : same symptoms. Went for a walk outside. 

Walk seems to help with physical restlessness.

 

11am : slightly calmer for 30min. Trying to do a puzzle.

 

Noon : eat some vegetables with fresh meat.

 

1pm : lie down in bed with audio relaxation. Physical restlessness better.

Very hard mentally. 

 

2pm : EFT. Then clean my car in order to distract. Still very hard mentally.

 

3pm : some gardening. Still very hard mentally. 

 

4pm : went for a walk in woods Again. Seems to help with physical restlessness.  Feeling exausted.

 

6pm : Intrusive thoughts lower. Feeling dread. Body aches. Went to take a shower. 

Took 1000mg EPO.

 

7pm : eat a salad. Vomit after 5 minutes.

 

Evening : restlessness seems to be lower. Intense dread.

 

From midnight to 5am : fall asleep and wake up several times. Very hot and sweaty. Strong restlessness in legs.

 

 

[Altostrata]

Since August 20, when you lowered fluoxetine to 7mg, you've had some fluctuations. It seemed symptoms got better, than worse. Can you list the 8 days since August 20 and indicate whether overall you had a lightening or intensification of symptoms?

[Erell]

4 hours ago, Altostrata said:

 It seemed symptoms got better, than worse.

I think overall physical restlessness really improved, and then worsen again last two days.

Intrusive harm thoughts/dread/mental surges are still very hard to cope.

 

I'm sorry. 

 

I'm quite amazed that changes between 7 and 8mg have sent me in this situation.

 

20 August : same as previous days

 

21 August : better in the evening, less physical restlessness, slept 5 hours straight (!)

 

22 August : still physically better in the morning, then up again.

Mental restlessness same as previous days.

Slept 2-3 hours

 

23 August : same as days before August 20. Very hard. Slept around 4 hours.

 

24 August : Morning very hard.

Afternoon better : able to cry a bit and sit still. Yawn.

Slept 4 hours. 

 

25 August : physically better, less restlessness and need to move.

Mentally very hard, same as days before 20 August.

Slept 4-5 hours.

 

26 August : physically still better.

Mentally  : very hard, but some easier moments during the day. 

Slept 5 hours straight  (!)

 

27 August  : Mentally  : very hard day, no relief. Seems to worsen.

Vomit.

Intense intrusive thoughts and surges. 

Slept 3 hours. Need to pace during the night.

 

 

28 August : Mentally : very hard day,.no relief. Seems to worsen

Vomit.

Intense intrusive thoughts and surges.

Physical restlessness increases during night : need to pace and shake come back. Slept 2 hours. Feel like I'm gonna explode.

 

Edited August 29, 2020 by Erell

[Altostrata]

My intuition is that your optimal Prozac dosage might be around 7.25mg. When you increased to 8mg, that was too much. It's taken the reductions following 8mg on August 5 3 weeks to bring the amount in your bloodstream down to 7mg. This is about right for the lower range of washout based on half-life. I might add 0.25mg.

[Erell]

11 hours ago, Altostrata said:

My intuition is that your optimal Prozac dosage might be around 7.25mg. When you increased to 8mg, that was too much. It's taken the reductions following 8mg on August 5 3 weeks to bring the amount in your bloodstream down to 7mg. This is about right for the lower range of washout based on half-life. I might add 0.25mg.

 

Thank you for your input.

 

Alto, I just spent my most difficult night with constant extreme surges/ kind of akathisia.

I must confess that I took 1mg Diazepam 20 minutes ago.

 

I'm in a crisis state and don't really know how to protect my life the best I can. This inner restlessness feels unbearable.

 

I know that benzos are evil drugs and that my CNS needs rest.

I know about kindling.

I don't know how to go through this rough patch. 

I'm trying to self-soothe the best I can.

 

I'm sorry and ashamed. 

And scared. 

Edited August 29, 2020 by Erell

[Nyfa25]

Oh je suis tellement désolée pour toi Erell... pour ce que tu traverses.... 

Toutes mes pensées vont vers toi...

Je t'envoies toutes mes bonnes ondes pour ton rétablissement 😘

 

 

 

[Vegalia]

Salut @Erell

 

Je pense à toi fort chaque jour. 

 

Je t'envoie toutes mes pensées. 

 

Bisous 😘

 

 

Hi @Erell

I think of you hard every day.

I send you all my thoughts.

Kisses

[sunnysideup69]

Hey @Erell,

I'm so sorry it's this tough right now. Sending you lots of love and a big hug.

Do you have a safety plan? I just read that you're at home with your parents now. Are they able to sit with you without panicking themselves / referring you to a doctor? 

 

Am also wondering whether you have a support line like here in the UK we have the Samaritans, a 24hour service you can call when in crisis?

 

[Erell]

5 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Hey @Erell,

I'm so sorry it's this tough right now. Sending you lots of love and a big hug.

Do you have a safety plan? I just read that you're at home with your parents now. Are they able to sit with you without panicking themselves / referring you to a doctor? 

 

Am also wondering whether you have a support line like here in the UK we have the Samaritans, a 24hour service you can call when in crisis?

 

 

Hello

 

I'm really sorry to express my ordeal.

 

Yes I live with my parents : I hide my best what I'm going through in order to avoid their panic and the risk of more drugs.

However, they see how restless I am so I can't hide much.

 

I have to say that even if they don't understand they are currently pretty amazing : they used to be pro-drugs and didn't really believe me or listen when I tried to educate them.

But with my current restlessness state they are starting to believe me and willing to protect me from psychiatrists and drugs cocktails.

My mother even came with me today to see my psychiatrist (needed a new prescription) and she really has been my lawyer, she amazed me !

Her best sentence :  "my daughter needs your respect and integrity, she doesn't need more drugs" 😍

 

But yes I have to admit that they are panicking a bit, mostly because they see how much I struggle.

 

I've called a support line : I don't really know what to think, had the feeling that I was disturbing the guy. Might try again.

 

Thank you, all, for your priceless support.

 

[Erell]

11 hours ago, Altostrata said:

My intuition is that your optimal Prozac dosage might be around 7.25mg. When you increased to 8mg, that was too much. It's taken the reductions following 8mg on August 5 3 weeks to bring the amount in your bloodstream down to 7mg. This is about right for the lower range of washout based on half-life. I might add 0.25mg.

 

Hello Altostrata 

 

And thank you for sharing your guess.

 

I'm not sure I interpret right : 

- activation might be lowered by decreasing a dosage

- an updose might help someone who suffers from WD symptoms

 

does the suggestion to increase mean that I don't suffer only from activation but maybe also WD ?

 

Must confess that I'm pretty scared to make inner restlessness worse with an updose. My mental state is very challenging with strong surges and I'm scared to risk being worse.

 

I'm sorry to ask you for your help.

I've informed my psychiatrist because I feel the need to educate him, but his advice is to add Olanzapine in order to "force the brain to accept Fluoxetine dosage".

So thank you for your patience. 

You really help me to hang on.

 

Edited August 29, 2020 by Erell

[Longroadhome]

@Erell

 

Glad your parents are with you for support and being so strong for you . 

Try the support line again Some are amazing and can be of great help. 
 

You seem to have a plan in place with parents , psychiatrist and help line and this site . That’s positive. 
hold tight take each day minute but minute hour by hour . 
 

you need to express how you feel and not suppress It. That is what this site is for. You are helping others that will be on the same journey through to recovery as you are now, in the future. 

don’t sit on your own away from others too much 

listen to comforting music 

have the tv on in the background 
distract yourself as much as you can 

[Cigale]

1 hour ago, Erell said:

Her best sentence :  "my daughter needs your respect and integrity, she doesn't need more drugs"

 

Sweet @Erell - It is great to hear you have your parents by your side, helping you. And you are doing everything in your power to help yourself. You are incredible! Sending you all my love and rest for your weary CNS. 🤗

[Altostrata]

I think you may be experiencing breakthrough Paxil withdrawal and may need a little more Prozac. Do you still have diazepam? A very little bit is preferable to olanzapine, in my opinion.

[Vegalia]

@Erell, 

 

I phoned SOS amitié. 

It was not bad

 

Courage. 

[Erell]

27 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

I think you may be experiencing breakthrough Paxil withdrawal and may need a little more Prozac. Do you still have diazepam? A very little bit is preferable to olanzapine, in my opinion.

 

- I threw the Olanzapine prescription in the bin this afternoon : I don't wanna end on a drug cocktail. 

 

Diazepam : took 1mg this morning, it seemed to help during the day (less restlessness/way less harm intrusive thoughts).

I haven't decided yet if I will take it again tomorrow : I don't wanna play with my CNS and I'm aware of the risks. I also want to protect my life.

(Just expressing my thoughts, I know this has to be my decision).

 

- about updosing to 7.25mg Fluoxetine :

in my soul, there are two contrasting sentiments.

I trust your knowledge and experience/now that I've discovered what an extreme restlessness state is, I'm scared to fuel the fire with too much Fluoxetine or too much changes.

I know this also has to be my own decision. 

 

Sounds like I have some thinking to do.

 

Hope life is sweet on your side ❤

[Altostrata]

You may be quite sensitive to blood level fluctuations of a drug. From your experiences, my guess is you are a fast metabolizer via liver enzyme CYP2D6. Both paroxetine and fluoxetine speed out of your system. As I said, 3-week washout for a change in fluoxetine dosage is at the lower end of the range.

 

This is not likely to cause a problem with diazepam.

 

Please do not take diazepam inconsistently, this will affect your symptom pattern for weeks. Don't worry about becoming dependent, we will help you taper it.

[sunnysideup69]

@Erell, I'm so glad your mum was so supportive! That's awesome.

No shame in needing to take a benzo right now, if that's what it takes. You're in the best place for tapering help. Sometimes we have to take sideways steps in order to eventually go forward again.

 

You are such a strong person, getting through this. It's going to be okay. 

[Erell]

11 hours ago, Altostrata said:

You may be quite sensitive to blood level fluctuations of a drug. From your experiences, my guess is you are a fast metabolizer via liver enzyme CYP2D6. Both paroxetine and fluoxetine speed out of your system. As I said, 3-week washout for a change in fluoxetine dosage is at the lower end of the range.

 

This is not likely to cause a problem with diazepam.

 

Please do not take diazepam inconsistently, this will affect your symptom pattern for weeks. Don't worry about becoming dependent, we will help you taper it.

 

- About Diazepam : you're right, benzos have to be taken consistently.

My hesitation come from the fact that I did a very slow and long benzo taper, and I'm a bit angry at myself for going back there. I have to work on forgiveness and love.

BUT : I do think it helped being calmer yesterday, and I woke up this morning after 8 hours sleep ! Don't have enough words to express how good it feels to sleep without waking constantly with a need to jump out of my skin ❤

So yes, maybe a low dose of Diazepam will help me to go through this very rough patch : time to work on acceptance and consistent drug schedule 😉

 

- I thank you for sharing your guess about me being a fast metabolizer. 

Must confess that I don't understand right what it means, did some reading yesterday but English + brain in fire make things harder 😉

My biggest fear with an updose to 7.25mg is to make restlessness and harm impulses worse : I think I'm gonna take 7mg this morning and make reading to try to understand better and make an informed decision tomorrow (or at least semi-educated).

 

I'm also still taking Paroxetine with a toothpick every morning.

 

Alto, I'm really amazed when I read your guesses : you really have acquired a sophisticated knowledge of this complex process and of all the phenomenas involved. 

It makes all this difficult volunteer work even more priceless.

Thank you for your time ❤

 

Edited August 30, 2020 by Erell

[ChessieCat]

1 hour ago, Erell said:

I thank you for sharing your guess about me being a fast metabolizer. 

Must confess that I don't understand right what it means,

 

Basically it means that when you take a drug it starts working quickly and when you reduce it too much the withdrawal symptoms will show up more quickly.   If a slow metabolizer reduced too much, their withdrawal symptoms will take longer to show up.  For example if you were taking a very short half life drug which needs to be taken twice a day, a fast metaboliser might have to dose 3 times a day so they didn't get interdose withdrawal.

 

Not a very scientific way of explaining but I hope it helps.

[Altostrata]

Erell, if a little diazepam seems to work with 7mg, it might be best to stay there rather than experiment more with the fluoxetine dosage.

 

You'll want to take a minimal amount of diazepam regularly. A low dosage will build up over time. If you take it regularly, it will increase in effect for several weeks.

[Rosetta]

Hi Erell,

 

Your posts remind me of how very difficult it was to get through to this point.  I sat in hot baths.  I was too weak to stand in the shower, but for you, the shower might be better because you could move around more.  Some people recommend cold showers and ice packs.  
 

Also, I used a heating pad — a large one called a shoulder wrap that can be microwaved.  It’s heavy, so it gives a sense of comfort due to the pressure of the weight, too.  You might try a weighted blanket.  I finally bought one.  They are less expensive than they used to be.  They help with akathisia.  

I always wished I could have massages everyday.  Sometimes, I would have my legs massaged because the thought of getting undressed, etcetera, with a person I did not know well did not feel comfortable.  Given the pandemic, I suppose massages are not an option, but maybe you could get something online that your mom would use on your legs and feet.  The sensation of a massage will distract you from the aka.  You could focus on your leg, and not on the aka.  It worked for me.  To get a few minutes rest from feeling the aka is important.

 

Holding you in my heart,

Rosetta

[Dejavu]

Erell, I just want you to know I'm thinking of you and hoping you see some stability very very soon. Just remember you're in the thick of it now, but you will level out. It will most likely never be this bad again. When you emerge from this, your taper should be a comparative breeze. Look toward those times. Sending you healing energy!!❤

[Erell]

Thank you @Rosetta and @Dejavu, your support means a lot ❤

Thank you for reminding me that I can emerge from this ordeal.

I sometimes feel like I went from a relative "simple" case to a complex one during this switch.

Using mindfullness to not listen to doom thoughts and focus on improvments  😉

Your faith in my ability to stabilise really is helping me ☺

 

On 8/30/2020 at 12:33 PM, Altostrata said:

Erell, if a little diazepam seems to work with 7mg, it might be best to stay there rather than experiment more with the Fluoxetine.

 

I followed your suggestion and since Saturday I'm staying on this drug regimen : 7mg Fluoxetine + 1mg Diazepam. 

Considering my daily notes it seems that activation from too high a dose is almost gone, and now my symptoms probably come from Paxil Wd/CNS destabilisation.

 

* Improvments (❤) :

 

- sleep  : I sleep 7-8 hours every night since I added 1mg Diazepam. This is huge.

- Nauseas have almost disappeared and I don't vomit anymore. Apetite is back.

- physical restlessness/ kind of aka has faded a lot. 

- I try to "engage in real life" more : I've been able to do some food shopping, I've managed to call a friend. 

 

* Intense symptoms :

 

- Intrusive harm thoughts and impulses are still there, but with fluctuations. 

- SI/doom cloud 

- strong cortisol rush (after 7 hours sleep, won't complain !)

- anxiety : I have big spikes of anxiety-terror coming from nowhere. 

- a weird one hard to describe : spikes of dizziness/head in a vice/feeling of loosing control and going crazy/ impending annihilation/feeling physically paralysed

- depression/weepy : this one might be a side effect of Diazepam, and a 'normal' phase after so much restlessness. 

- spikes of DR/brain fog feeling utterly disconnected. 

- new : body aches in legs and arms + lower back.

I think this symptom is quite logical : my muscles were constantly contracted lately, now that they relax a bit I have aches. 

 

Current disabling symptoms are : 

Intrusive harm thoughts and impulses/ the weird one hard to describe/ anxiety-terror.

 

My life has radically changed during this switch (living with parents, not able to work) so I try to not overthink my situation, and above all not overthink the future.

 

Ready for more improvments....☀️

 

And wishing you all a bright day or a very sweet night ❤

Edited September 2, 2020 by Erell

[Altostrata]

I am relieved you are doing better, Erell. You should gradually feel a little better as the fluoxetine and diazepam levels stabilize.

[Cigale]

21 hours ago, Erell said:

* Improvments (❤)

 

Dear @Erell - Thank you for letting us know how you are doing. It is so good to hear you are seeing some improvements! Good sleep is so important. Here's hoping for more healing! 🤗

[Longroadhome]

@Erell

 

good to hear you are seeing improvements!! 
In  the near future you will start to stabilise 
you so have the right attitude to do this !! 

[Erell]

In order to make a shorter signature and keep the infos about my Prozac bridge, just pasting it here.

 

PROZAC BRIDGE -  2020 : 

 

13th April : 10mg Paroxetine + 1mg Fluoxetine

16th April : 10mg Paroxetine + 2mg Fluoxetine

18th April - 30th April : dropped 2mg Paroxetine every 4 days, add 1mg Fluoxetine every 4 days

5th May : 1mg Paroxetine + 6mg Fluoxetine

9 May : 0.5mg Paroxetine + 6mg Fluoxetine 

22 May : 6mg Fluoxetine   (STOP PAROXETINE)

26 May : 0.1mg Paroxetine + 6mg Fluoxetine

9 June : 0.06mg Paroxetine + 6mg Fluoxetine

27 June : 0.07mg Paroxetine + 6mg Fluoxetine 

28 June : 0.06 Paroxetine + 7mg Fluoxetine

14 July : 0.06mg Paroxetine + 7.5 mg Fluoxetine 

24 July : 0.03mg Paroxetine + 7.5mg Fluoxetine 

5 August : 0.03mg Paroxetine + 8mg Fluoxetine 

9 August : 0.03mg Paroxetine +7.75mg Fluoxetine

16 August : 7.5mg Fluoxetine + toothpick Paroxetine 

19 August : 7.25mg Fluoxetine. 0.33mg Diazepam (1 drop) + toothpick Paroxetine 

20 August: 7mg Fluoxetine + toothpick Paroxetine 

29 August : 7mg Fluoxetine + toothpick Paroxetine + 1mg Diazepam 

 

[Mimi79]

Hi Erell,

I was wondering how you feel. You seem to improve a bit! And you’re always there to help other, you are so strong!

 

Je n’ai pas oublié l’idée qu’on se parle une bonne fois via Zoom ou autre. Ça pourrait être thérapeutique!

 

I wish you will feel better very soon. Thank you so much for all the help and hope you give to anybody. You are inspiring!

 

Have a nice weekend...

 

Anne-Marie

 

[sunnysideup69]

Hello @Erell,

So glad to read there have been some improvements, especially around sleep - that's such an important one! Hope you've had a good weekend, over all. Sending you hugs. You've had a big life change but are riding it out successfully, I know you'll continue to improve ❤️ 

[Erell]

Thank you @Mimi79, you're so nice

I know you're currently in a wave, I really appreciate the time you take to support me. And wish you a nice window soon ❤️  

I'm always hesitant about PM's and calls : I have a lot of neuroemotions and always scared of triggering others with cries or anxiety. I'll let you know once I'll feel better and ready to discuss more quietly, because it could be nice to share in French

 

7mg Fluoxetine (since 20 August) + 1mg Diazepam (since 29 August)

 

--> Symptoms of activation from too high a dose have improved past week :

 

- extreme physical restlessness/kind of aka has almost disappeared, I sometimes have some spikes but they are lower.

- I still have intrusive thoughts/harm impulses. Fortunately it is now less constant and comes in spikes.

- "mental aka" : the absolute need to escape/SI surges/intense doom clouds now fluctuates and tend to be lower

- Since I take 1mg Diazepam, I sleep between 6 and 7 hours straight every night. (note : I'm not recommending to take benzo. I took it out of desperation, because of too much self harm/harm surges. But benzos carry a lot of risks.)

 

 

It seems that those symptoms are now gradually being replaced by :

- Very high chemical anxiety/random spikes of terror/ agoraphobia

- depressed feelings/ despair spikes/SI

i'm still mostly housebound, anxiety/terror makes it hard to be functionnal. I try to force myself a little bit almost everyday.

 

It depends on the day: yesterday I was not feeling restless, just highly anxious. Today anxiety is a bit better but I feel restless physically and mentally with urges to escape and SI.

 

In fact, after two months of changes trying to find the 'best' Prozac dosage, it seems that I'm slowly getting back to where I was in June, with the addition of intrusive violent thoughts...Wow, this is harsh to say and realise !

I have a lot of ruminations and self-criticism : I know these thoughts aren't helping so I do my best to try to ignore them.

 

Lot of battle fatigue I think : one year ago I was beginning a long journey to stabilisation by holding my Paroxetine dose, one year later I'm starting a new long journey toward stabilisation.

Must confess that I'm psychologically exhausted. 

 

I know lot of strong folks here are in the same situation, I'm grateful for being part of this community ❤️

 

 

Edited September 7, 2020 by Erell

[Rosetta]

Hi, Erell,

 

I’m so happy to read that your symptoms are more mild now.  Yes, battle fatigue is certainly a problem with WD.  My heart goes out to you, because I remember experiencing so much of what you recount on your thread.  The intrusive thoughts, ruminations, and self-criticism are exhausting.  Trying to control them is futile, but you can distract.  
 

It is a relief to me that you have your parents to help you, but I know there is a certain stress involved when one feels as if she is a burden.  I struggled with that a lot, and I realize now that I should not have worried so much about that issue.  Try to be kind to yourself if you can.  Your parents must be so glad that you are stabilizing, but if you have a wave, remember that they will continue to care for you.  Parental love is like none other.  Your job is endure, not to feel guilty for being ill.  
 

Simply try to have patience as much as possible for the thoughts and feelings to avoid adding guilt to the mix.  Do what you can to avoid them by doing something that occupies your mind.

 

Can you play music perhaps?  Do you have a piano or violin?  If so, learning a new piece of music can be healing.  If you can read, that is good, too.  Working to learn a language is also helpful to the brain.  I like to look up the origin of English words and try to sort them into categories based on the languages from which they derived.  Making order out of chaos, and English is chaotic, is a nice, entertaining way of distracting myself.  
 

I read children’s books in Spanish sometimes.  I tried to watch El Ministerio del Tiempo, but I took a break from it because it was too difficult.  Maybe it would not be for you.  It’s on Netflix.  Not all of the language is modern Spanish.  That makes it a fun challenge.  Keep your phone or iPad nearby to look up words.  It’s not a bad way to pass the time.  It’s better than letting your thoughts wander where they will.  I can recommend some childrens’ shows in English if you like.

 

💜Rosetta

[Nyfa25]

Courage, @Erell, Courage quelle terrible épreuve a vivre.. Je vous souhaite une belle fenêtre et surtout rapidement, une guérison totale 😘😘😘