Moderator Emeritus mammaP Posted September 26, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 26, 2014 Hi MB, I'm so sorry that you were so ill in the hospital and sorry that I missed it, I've been away visiting family. Glad that you are on the mend, I can imagine how scary it must have been for you. As you say, you learn and grow from life's experiences. I hope you keep on getting better and this doesn't cause destabilise you further. Hugs on their way from England . **I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge. Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem) 1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat 2002 effexor. Tapered March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads. Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013 Restarted taper Nov 2013 OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015 Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014 Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg July 2017 30mg. May 15 2018 25mg Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33 Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible Link to comment
wulfgar Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Good that you are improving. Do you think this is related to your meds? My body have and are still reacting in strange ways, and i do blame the meds! 2010: Mirtazapine 30mg followed by Zopiclone 7.5 mg for sleep post surgery due to pain.2012-> Tapering Mirtazapine and Zopiclone at different rates unsuccessfully.2013: Hospitalized 10 days due to complete Insomnia. Forced back up to 45mg Mirtazapine, 7.5 mg Zopiclone and also Theralene 1 ml.2013-03: Lab showed Vitamin D deficient. Found the vitamin d and insomnia connection. Supplementing vitamin d. Sleep improved by 1-2 hours2013-04: Dropped mirtazapine to 30 due to severe side effects. Quit Theralene. Zopiclone 7.5.2013-05 - 2013-11: Mirtazapine taper monthly 25 20 15 11 8 4 2.5 mg2013-12 Holding M at 2.5. Need to taper Zopiclone due to daytime nausea and vomiting. Taper zopiclone 1/4 red every 5 d. Last Z 2013-12-192013-12-31 M:2.5. Reinstated Zopiclone 3.75 due to Insomnia2014-01-06 M:2.5. Taper Z 1.9 ... 2014-01-14 M:2.5. Z 1 mg.Jumped of Zopiclone 01-20. Jumped mirtazapine 02-16. Theralene: 10mg 02-09. 8mg 03-09. 5mg 03-15. 4mg 03-24. 3mg 04-08. Jumped 04-21.Zopiclone free for 251 days. Mirtazapine free for 224 days. Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Hi mammaP and Wulfgar! This experience did cause a lot of damage but I`ll bounce back sooner or later. I feel like I took 4 months away from my progress. I`ll try to take things easy but my nerves are in a horrible shape. I`m sure that these poisons play a big role in what happened. 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 Feeling better again. It took some time to get back on my feet but I`m feeling stronger than ever. I`ve been able to work and spent the last weekend alone with the kids. I was scared about that at first but all went well. Back to tapering... Once I get to 1mg I`ll drop 0.1 per week when possible. 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus mammaP Posted October 13, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 13, 2014 Glad you are feeling better MB, it's great news **I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge. Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem) 1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat 2002 effexor. Tapered March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads. Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013 Restarted taper Nov 2013 OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015 Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014 Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg July 2017 30mg. May 15 2018 25mg Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33 Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 As of today I`ve got 1mg left to go. I never went by the book. I tried to listen to my body but often I was too impatient. At least it taught me to get to know myself very well. I`m not the same person I was before. I`m much wiser. My outlook on life is completely different. Good things can come out of this horrible, way too long lasting experience. I`ve been fast since 18 months ago I was at 100mg. Never do this! It was horrible. I`m much better these days but I`ve got a long way go before I`m ok. I`ll stick around and update when I feel like it. I hope nothing but the best for all of you. I`m sad too see so many new members here but at least they have found this place. Br, Moody 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 Last leg update 2: 0,9mg to go. I thought I might as well journal my last mg of tapering. Maybe someone will find this useful. I mix 25mg of zoloft to 25ml of water. I`ve have a brown medicine bottle with a syringe nozzle and a 1ml syringe. At the moment I take 0,5ml at 8am and 0,4ml at 8pm. Next monday I will cut my morning dose by 0,1ml. Going down 10% every week was too complicated for me so I made my own schedule. It`s on my sig. This week I have had very little anxiety. Mainly physical symptoms. My senses and nerves are very reactive to any stimuli. Smell, sounds, light.. Nothing major but annoying still. Impossible to say how much of it is from my last cut or my stressful week so far. I`m very very tired. I fall asleep every night on the couch. I`m so tired I cannot keep my eyes open. My mind is clearly working over its capacity. I can still see slow improvement and I believe I can do this. I have learned to take breaks from my tapering if things go too bad. It has worked fine. I believe my longest hold so far was about 5-6 weeks. Good thing is that I no longer have cortisol mornings. I usually wake up rested and happy. All the challenges of each day just are too much for me right now and they can bring fears, anxiety, depression and many many physical symptoms. I`ve learned to live with them. One of the hardest achievements of my life. Tapering while working full time and raising 3 kids is something... With the right attitude and careful taper this can be done. -EDIT: This is not an advice to anyone how to taper. So talk to the wiser ones on this forum. This is just my method. 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted October 30, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 30, 2014 Thanks for the update moody, I'm happy to hear that you are managing even though you are getting tired and some symptoms. You may need to slow down and hold longer now that your dose is getting very low. Do let us know how it goes. I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yes true. I may have to hold. I am prepared to do just that. Many say that the last cuts are the hardest. I`m on such a low dosage that I have no urge to rush. The full effect of a cut usually kicks in about 4-5 days after so I`ll soon know where I`m at. The last couple of days were very good actually. I try to take hardships as a good practice. They make me stronger. Turning everything into a positive. That is very important. Glad to see that you are so well Petu. 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Last leg update 3: 0,8mg to go. I had my FIRST full weekend window. That was something. I have developed a strange circular rash in my right armpit. Never had that before so it probably is a WD related thing. Trying to take things easy and watch out for any excessive stress. Tinnitus has been fairly low lately. 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 I just had a Horrible 3 day wave but I'm back in business now! 0,4mg to go. Bring it on!! This is my attitude right now: http://i.imgur.com/qlBYFuD.gif 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
Meimeiquest Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Love it! You're doing great! 1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms. Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12 Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13 Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15 11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble) 9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol 7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol 56 years old Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 At 0,3mg. If nothing major happens 0,2mg on monday. I have found new perspective on life. After months and months practicing positive outlook on life and acceptance is paying back. I have found that courage is just as important. I have been troubled with many physical symptoms for a long time. They did not go away until I decided that they will NOT prevent me from doing what I want to do. After a week of ignoring my symptoms and facing them with fu attitude, they are fast fading away. Finally. Positivity Acceptance Courage My three new favourite words. I know I`ll be in the pits many times in the future but every time I`ll be back on track stronger. 1 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Narcissus Posted December 14, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 14, 2014 Very inspiring stuff, Moody! Keep at it! 3 Years 150 mgs Effexor 2 month taper down to zero 3 terrible weeks at zero Back up to 75 mgs 2 months at 75 6 or so months back to regular dose of 150 - was able to restabilize fine. 3 month taper back to zero 1 HORRENDOUS week at zero 2 days back up to 37.5 3 days back up to 75 One week at 150 - unable to stabilize. Back down to 75 mgs At 75 mgs (half original dose) and suffering withdrawal symptoms since October 2012. "It is a radical cure for all pessimism to become ill, to remain ill for a good while, and then grow well for a still longer period." - Nietzsche Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 0,1mg My last week of tapering. Feeling happy, exited and scared. 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 !!! 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 My final week of tapering is coming to an end. I`m getting stronger and stronger and all the time realizing new things of myself and on how my body and mind works. There is always stuff going on below the surface and being careful of not to over do things gets harder and harder as the healing goes on. You are feeling fine for some time and crash full speed shortly after. It has taken some time to understand that this pattern is not a sign of relapse. It is a sign of healing in progress. My mind is already in the next week. What will i do? My life has been scheduled by my pills for over 3 years including 2 failed attempts to stop with the help of clueless doctors. They were both good doctors but had no idea what to do with someone who is not able to just quit these poisons. 100mg zoloft daily plus 10-20mg diazepam as needed was not a very mild combo but I still feel i am fortunate compared to many others here. Looking back I wish a had not CT:d the benzo but I was too far off to reinstate and I`m glad that I did not. I always knew that taking these drugs is not a good thing but i was is such a hard place in my life and with myself that I felt that it was ok to keep going in order to survive. My final eyeopener was the day i realized that I had built a tolerance on diazepam. It no longer did anything to me. Even if took 30mg I felt no better. It was scary. So I stopped taking it immediately. Wise? Maybe not.. This experience has made me think. A lot. What has made me the person I am and why am I in this situation? Polydrugged, anxious, not believing that anything good can happen to me in life and everybody else is to blame, not me. I hated the society, drugs, doctors, everything until I had to look in the mirror. There is the only person who can help me and the only person who is to blame, so to speak. Looking for revenge did not help. I had to change. It was the only choice. Slowly I am learning to be a different person. Not worrying all the time and being afraid of everything. It will take years but i`ve found the right path and I will stay on it. Otherwise I`ll be complaining on this vey same thread 10 years after. Being the person i was led me into the bad place where i was at. I need to rebuild a new person to guide me out of it. I don`t want the old me back. I want something better and I will find it. A new me. 1 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted December 26, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 26, 2014 "I don`t want the old me back. I want something better and I will find it. A new me." It is so good to hear someone say this. Too many people in recovery are so desperate to get the "old me" back, when that's the one that got them in trouble and isn't possible anyway. In a way we are the lucky ones, in that we get a real second chance to get our lives right. WD forces us to reexamine all aspects of our lives and beliefs and make the needed changes. I have said that it is a trial by fire, burning away the chaff and exposing what is really important. Just surviving the riggers of WD exposes an inner strength, patience, and clarity of thought that will serve us for a lifetime. After this nothing will ever be hard again. Best of luck as you start this new phase of your life, I know you will succeed. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 Thanks brassmonkey. This experience really is an opportunity to start your life again. From step one. I`ve had to learn everything again. Starting from the way I walk. Seriously. In a way I`m glad I was brainwashed as a child to think that life sucks and no one can help me. Otherwise I would have 20+ years on these drugs. Or I would be in a grave. Or maybe I would have a full life with no problems... Who knows. But it really is all in what we think about life. Fear just creates more fear. I don`t know if I would be able to chance myself had I tapered wisely and slowly the first time round. But this is the only good thing that has come out of this experience. I REALLY know myself now. I feel and know what I`ve been doing wrong all my life. I have the tools to turn things around. I have gathered wisdom that I can share with my children and my friends. This is life. Best of luck to you brassmonkey and thanks for stopping by 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Beautiful writing. Just read this and it reminded me of your post: http://www.madinamerica.com/2014/12/rainbows-unicorns/ 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 Done! I`m off the hook. See you when I crash in 1-2months Thanks! 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Yesterday I had my worst day in six months. A complete mental breakdown. Ears ringing like crazy. I felt like I was back where I started. After the whole day in hell I realized that I had been running away from my symptoms and fears. Looking the other way when they wanted my attention. Then I completely surrendered to them. Did not try to mask the tinnitus or distract myself from the panic attacks, etc. I just listened to every symptom without any fear. Just told myself that this does not mean that I`m getting worse. This does not mean that I will not ever heal. I took every each symptom and let it do to me what ever it wanted. I found a calm and peaceful place from the hell I was in. It was incredible. Last night I slept like baby and today I had my best day in six months. Almost like normal. Not a one fearful thought. Not a one physical symptom. Just me. 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 That's amazing! 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted January 6, 2015 Moderator Share Posted January 6, 2015 That's the best way to handle it MoodyBlues. I'm so glad it worked so well. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted January 8, 2015 Mentor Share Posted January 8, 2015 Thankyou for the information on Zoloft. I am suffering, seems to be getting worse, and considering reinstating zoloft. I know my limitations But I like having my brain back, even in its battered and bruised form at present. just need a spark to get moving. Then I could plan, much better, as you have done, now I found this site. the doc wants to put me on Citalopram, as it is liquid, but after finding out it was the precurser to effexor (patent ran out), I am very wary. And dont want to introduce yet another drug. So whether reintroducing Zoloft would help, is about the only option I can see. WD didnt hit for 5 months or so after doing a too fast a taper, from it, while stilll suffering WD from effexor. Thankyou for the information to make a solution from Zoloft, as only comes in tablets. Can you describe more how you did this? Am considering 1mg - 13mg at night. Where should I start? 1/4 tablet? or try and make a mix, when I really am not up to it. But at the moment the doc wants me to take half a tablet, I would not risk this. Suggestions very welcome. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted January 8, 2015 Mentor Share Posted January 8, 2015 My final week of tapering is coming to an end. I`m getting stronger and stronger and all the time realizing new things of myself and on how my body and mind works. There is always stuff going on below the surface and being careful of not to over do things gets harder and harder as the healing goes on. You are feeling fine for some time and crash full speed shortly after. It has taken some time to understand that this pattern is not a sign of relapse. It is a sign of healing in progress. My mind is already in the next week. What will i do? My life has been scheduled by my pills for over 3 years including 2 failed attempts to stop with the help of clueless doctors. They were both good doctors but had no idea what to do with someone who is not able to just quit these poisons. 100mg zoloft daily plus 10-20mg diazepam as needed was not a very mild combo but I still feel i am fortunate compared to many others here. Looking back I wish a had not CT:d the benzo but I was too far off to reinstate and I`m glad that I did not. I always knew that taking these drugs is not a good thing but i was is such a hard place in my life and with myself that I felt that it was ok to keep going in order to survive. My final eyeopener was the day i realized that I had built a tolerance on diazepam. It no longer did anything to me. Even if took 30mg I felt no better. It was scary. So I stopped taking it immediately. Wise? Maybe not.. This experience has made me think. A lot. What has made me the person I am and why am I in this situation? Polydrugged, anxious, not believing that anything good can happen to me in life and everybody else is to blame, not me. I hated the society, drugs, doctors, everything until I had to look in the mirror. There is the only person who can help me and the only person who is to blame, so to speak. Looking for revenge did not help. I had to change. It was the only choice. Slowly I am learning to be a different person. Not worrying all the time and being afraid of everything. It will take years but i`ve found the right path and I will stay on it. Otherwise I`ll be complaining on this vey same thread 10 years after. Being the person i was led me into the bad place where i was at. I need to rebuild a new person to guide me out of it. I don`t want the old me back. I want something better and I will find it. A new me. I am stuck in the blaming everyone bit, hope it passes. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 I am stuck in the blaming everyone bit, hope it passes. If you accept that symptom and do not fight it, it will pass in time. Do not worry. I am not qualified to give instruction on how to reinstate. Please ask that in your own thread. There is zoloft (or generic) available in liquid form. 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Spending some time by myself alone with my thoughts. It becomes more and more apparent that the way back from this hell is largely about not running away. Courage is needed. So far I`ve only found it when I`m super anxious and cornered by my fears and symptoms. Only then I have the courage to face my demons. When there is no other alternative. Fight or die. Why is it that I`m not defending myself unless it is the last alternative? That has been the story of my life. But when I finally fight I fight damn well. All my best days has been the days after the biggest fights. Then I start running away and hiding again. Until I`m cornered. Lately I`ve been fighting earlier on. Why have I not done this before? Back home as a child fighting back was not an option. My father made it very clear. Countless times. Maybe it is time to unlearn this behaviour. No more running away. My father is dead. Too late too blame him or kick his teeth in. This fight is between me and myself. I will only run towards my enemy. 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ten0275 Posted January 11, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 11, 2015 I really like your post above, about fighting your way back. I concur. Here is a song that I think speaks to it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ2En_1IfhI 1996 - .5mg Ativan as needed, 7.5mg Remeron daily2008 - .5mg Xanax, Ativan discontinued, Remeron continued2012 - .5mg Xanax, .25mg Ativan 3x daily, Remeron continued2/2012 - Jumped from Remeron, continued .5mg Xanax .25mg Ativan 3x daily4/2012 - Began rapid taper of .5mg Xanax .25mg Ativan 3x daily6/2012 - Jumped from Xanax and Ativan, voluntary hospitalization followed7/2012 - 2nd voluntary hospitalization, reinstated Remeron, bumped to 30mg, also given risperidone.8/2012 - discontinued risperidone, tried gabapentin, dicontinued gabapentin, Remeron 30mg continued10/2012 to current - tapered Remeron 10% every 4 to 6 weeks (sometimes more time) using liquid compound12/2014 - 2mg Remeron 1/16/2015 - 1.9mg Remeron 8/1/2015 -1.6mg Remeron - 03/1/2016 - 1.5mg Remeron - 1/2/2017 1.3mg - 5/7/2017 1.2mg - 5/13/2017 - syringe size change - 6/8/2017 - 1.1mg - 7/10/2017 - 1mg - 9/1/2017 - 0.9mg - 10/22/2017 - 0.8mg - 11/22/2017 - 0.7mg - 2/2/2018 - 0.6mg - 3/13/2018 - new compound pharmacy - 5/20/2018 - 0.5mg - 8/31/2018 - 0.4mg - 11/16/2018 - 0.3mg - 12/24/2018 - 0.2mg - 4/1/2019 - 0.1mg - 5/1/2019 - .05mg - 0mg achieved 2019-06-15. 🤞 Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 I was not expecting Phil Lynott behind that link. Thanks for that. 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ten0275 Posted January 11, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 11, 2015 The element of surprise. Phil could have used to abide his own advice. I always listen to him and feel he was really singing to himself, trying to work up the inner strength to battle his own stuff. Hard however to argue with a line like "I'm rough, tough, ready and able - to pick myself up from under this table - fighting my way back!" I listen to Phil a lot when things get hard. Hang in there. 1996 - .5mg Ativan as needed, 7.5mg Remeron daily2008 - .5mg Xanax, Ativan discontinued, Remeron continued2012 - .5mg Xanax, .25mg Ativan 3x daily, Remeron continued2/2012 - Jumped from Remeron, continued .5mg Xanax .25mg Ativan 3x daily4/2012 - Began rapid taper of .5mg Xanax .25mg Ativan 3x daily6/2012 - Jumped from Xanax and Ativan, voluntary hospitalization followed7/2012 - 2nd voluntary hospitalization, reinstated Remeron, bumped to 30mg, also given risperidone.8/2012 - discontinued risperidone, tried gabapentin, dicontinued gabapentin, Remeron 30mg continued10/2012 to current - tapered Remeron 10% every 4 to 6 weeks (sometimes more time) using liquid compound12/2014 - 2mg Remeron 1/16/2015 - 1.9mg Remeron 8/1/2015 -1.6mg Remeron - 03/1/2016 - 1.5mg Remeron - 1/2/2017 1.3mg - 5/7/2017 1.2mg - 5/13/2017 - syringe size change - 6/8/2017 - 1.1mg - 7/10/2017 - 1mg - 9/1/2017 - 0.9mg - 10/22/2017 - 0.8mg - 11/22/2017 - 0.7mg - 2/2/2018 - 0.6mg - 3/13/2018 - new compound pharmacy - 5/20/2018 - 0.5mg - 8/31/2018 - 0.4mg - 11/16/2018 - 0.3mg - 12/24/2018 - 0.2mg - 4/1/2019 - 0.1mg - 5/1/2019 - .05mg - 0mg achieved 2019-06-15. 🤞 Link to comment
WatchingTV426 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Moody, from what I've read so far, you've had quite a journey, and you've really made some astounding changes to your outlook. It's inspirational, and it's more than I can even *consider* in the state I'm in. May I ask how old your children are? It's really a tremendous feat to me that you've managed to hold down what sounds like a stressful job and raise three children (plus endure your wife's unfortunate miscarriage and several physical health problems of your own) during this awful withdrawal. I hope things are going well for you now. Started Zoloft 07/06, continued through 07/08 (2-month taper, going downhill 6 weeks after stopping [w/d?]) Lexapro started 12/08, Lexapro increased/Buspar and Topamax added in '09, continued through 08/10 (3-month taper, disastrous results after 3 week [w/d?]) 200 mg Zoloft started around 9/10; been between 150 and 200 mg Zoloft since then, also on Topamax and Deplin, and tried things for sleep like Trazadone (worked for a while), and Ambien, Lunesta, and Mirtazapine (all failed) --Started tapering 200mg Zoloft-- 6-26-14 (150 mg); 7-14-14 (100 mg); 8-20-14 (50 mg); 10-25-14 (25 mg); 11-18-14 (12.5 mg); 12-2-14 stopped Zoloft anxiety started 3 days off, depression 12 days off; both severely intensified at 5 weeks off with a work-related trigger and got progressively worse for 10 days Reinstated Zoloft 12.5mg on 1-15-15 (one day at 25mg) after 6 weeks and 2 days off Also taking 100mg Topamax and 15mg Deplin Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted January 20, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 20, 2015 You've been having some powerful insights lately Moody, and really seem to be growing in some significant ways, its so inspiring, do keep posting. I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hi Petu and TV. Thanks for stopping by Yes this has been one hell of a ride. Really forces one to think. What have I done wrong to end up like this? I have found countless things. Not an easy task to learn to live my life some other way. At least this is a golden opportunity to begin my life again. As a child we were victims of our living conditions and the people we are around. This time we know what we want to be! We have a goal and it can be done. Still not an easy task but at least we know what led us to something bad. We can still turn things around. TV. My oldest is in school, the middle one is starting school and youngest is only 3. 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
moodyblues78 Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 One month off. So far so good. Last week was horrible but the last 2 days I`ve felt better than ever before in wd. Hardly any tinnitus. No fear, no anxiety or panic. Sleeping well. I still get pissed very easily and I`m very sensitive to stress. Nothing new there but I`m clearly moving on. 3 steps forward, 2 steps back time after time. I`ll be an amazing dancer once I`m through this! Take care people. 08 Cipralex 10mg for about 6 months. 11-12 Cipralex 20mg. Unsuccesful WD. 12-13 Zoloft 100mg with Diazepam 10-20mg as needed for anxiety.Fall 13 Tapering Zoloft 100->50->25->12,5->0 in 2,5 months and CT Diazepam. 12/24/13 RI Zoloft 12,5mg. 1/21/14 11mg 3/18/14 9,9mg 2/18/14 8mg 4/22/14 7,6mg 5/5/14 7,2mg 5/12/14 -> cutting 0,5mg per week, holding when necessary. 8/18/14 -> cutting 0,25mg per week holding when necessary. 10/20/2014 -> cutting 0,1mg per week, holding when necessary.12/28/2014 Jump! Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted January 28, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 28, 2015 Sounds good moody, thanks for updating. I still get pissed very easily and I`m very sensitive to stress. Was this something you experienced before drugs or is this purely withdrawal related? I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment
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