btdt Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Substances That Inhibit Phase I Detoxification Drugs: benzodiazepines; antihistamines; cimetidine and other stomach-acid secretion blocking drugs; ketoconazole;sulfaphenazole Foods: naringenin from grapefruit juice; curcumin from turmeric; capsaicin form chili pepper; eugenol from clove oil;quercetin from onions Botanicals: curcuma longa (curcumin); capsicum frutescens (capsaicin); eugenia caryophyllus (eugenol); calendula officianalis Other: aging; toxins from inappropriate bacteria in the intestines For efficient phase two detoxification, the liver cells require sulphur-containing amino acids such as taurine and cysteine. The nutrients glycine, glutamine, choline and inositol are also required for efficient phase two detoxification. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 I know someone who can interperet results. She is very good. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Adown Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Hug. 2005: sertraline + clorazepate until summer 2006, I quit very slowly without any problem and feeling even better. 2008 (around, I don't remember) I tried fluoxetine but leave the second day after a extrapidamidal syndrome. 2010: mirtazapine 30 mg + diazepam 10 mg, both everyday 2011: I tried to quit mirtazapine with the help of the psychiatrist, but nothing. I visit other psychiatrist and everyhing fails when escitalopram+mirtazapine and adding orfidal instead of diazepam, then I was 50mg every 12 hours of clorazepate for fix the damage of the new medication and I back to mirtazapine+diazepam. 2014: still with mirtazapine+diazepam, I quit diazepam, but then I back due I was not feeling better as I expected, I did like this: June 30/20mg, July 15/10mg, August 5mg, September just around 6 days 5mg, October 0, November 0, December back to 5/10, January same. 2015: Trying to quit mirtazapine since August, August was alternating few days between 30/22.5/15, September 22.5/15mg, October 15mg, November 15mg, December 15/7.5/0, January 15/7.5/0. My diagnostic before 2010 (all by doctors) was depression and anxiety, in 2010 was diagnostic with depression, anxiety, avoidant personality disorder, pineal cyst and don't remember if something more. Diagnostic since summer 2014 (all by doctors) is the same adding basal anxiety, agorofobia, anhedomia, depersonalization, derealization, hypothymia, asthenia. I will add obsesive compulsive disorder. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7869-adown-help-me-in-my-history/ Link to comment
Martina23 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I wondered if anyone could pipe in here and maybe give me some answers. I am 18 months off and have hit an awful place. It started with the usual cortisol through the night. Now it's happeneing in the day. I suddenly get this awful doom, deep depression kind of feeling wash over me like I just need to die. It's not anxiety because I know what that feels like. My vision goes funny and my insides hurt. There are lots of gut noises going on when this happens. Once it calms down my frontal lobe goes even more dead than what it normally is. I am totally locked out of life. What would you say this is? I have an awful taste all of the time - my children have noticed a smell on my breath again. I thought at first this could be lined the the chemcial / emf sensitivities as they have been so bad but now I just don't know. This morning I couldn't keep my eyes open - the awful toxic coma type sleep. I know I have been severe but this is something else. I dont know what's going on. Please - if you have any idea can you let me know. I was just about holding my head above the water and now this. I can't do it anymore. I have also intrusive thoughts and derealisation mostly after eating. Anxiety and depression is in some way linked with the stomach and GI issues, at least for me. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
btdt Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 By toxic naps I mean it is not real sleep - it feels like a sleep that would be induced by a drug or alcahol...wake up feeling hungover and disorientated. Detox - what I mean is that if I am exposed to something my body doesn't like...any chemicals, it will make me very sick. I am on a healing forum and a couple have suggested that I'm not detoxing properly. I don't know but the chemical sensitivity is a very difficult, disabling condition on its own. I don't drink milk as I only used to have it in tea which I cannot tolerate at all, no coffee either. Have not had anything from a can in a long time and the meat we buy is fresh organic. Thanks for the link. I will take a look. I have toxic naps to this day should I come into contact with things that disagree with me and so many thing disagree with me it is not easy to sort out. When I first started having this sort of thing it was usually after I ate so I thought it was food related and maybe some of it was then... it was after the 8th month period as I was already at pp and I asked others about it... first knee jerk reaction was sugar so I stopped eating sugar it still happened. Any food and I would have to sleep no choice about it. It felt more like a coma than a sleep. For a long time I would avoid the shower as I had to lay down often sleeping after a shower I would be dizzy and feel limp. For ages I put up with this thinking the water was too warm or I was having a reaction to warm water. Then I started reacting to smells of all sorts perfume on my sisters ... I would about fall down... air fresheners they had in their homes candles ect. It finally dawned on me maybe the shower was making me sick because of the soap perfumes. I started searching for something that made me less ill. I found a product which helps tho I don't think it is the best it is the best I have found so far called nature clean .. tho I can't tolerate all their products I use the shampoo conditioner and liquid soap as a shower gel. This has helped me be a bit less dirty as I don't dread the shower at this point... I don't like it either. Our water is chlorinated and has fluoride I can't change the fluoride but have a shower filter for the chlorine. I have tried making my own tooth paste and shampoo but don't have it down pat yet. I will keep working on it when I feel up to it. It may be Muddles that simple things you use to not react to now make you sick... small changes like nature clean soap for the dishwasher and rinsing the dishes with vinegar have made life better for me. Even the smell of the dishwasher soap in the house was making me sick I did not know it for a long time. I think it may have been affecting me longer than I know it is hard to say. It is worth taking a look at cleaning products personal hygiene products even the water. Just a thought as thoughts go I hope your doing ok. wishing you peace B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Substances That Inhibit Phase I Detoxification Drugs: benzodiazepines; antihistamines; cimetidine and other stomach-acid secretion blocking drugs; ketoconazole;sulfaphenazole Foods: naringenin from grapefruit juice; curcumin from turmeric; capsaicin form chili pepper; eugenol from clove oil;quercetin from onions Botanicals: curcuma longa (curcumin); capsicum frutescens (capsaicin); eugenia caryophyllus (eugenol); calendula officianalis Other: aging; toxins from inappropriate bacteria in the intestines For efficient phase two detoxification, the liver cells require sulphur-containing amino acids such as taurine and cysteine. The nutrients glycine, glutamine, choline and inositol are also required for efficient phase two detoxification. here is a link for the page this came from http://tuberose.com/Liver_Detoxification.html WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted June 6, 2016 Member Share Posted June 6, 2016 Are things going any better for you yet, Muddles? I don't see very many posts from you any more and I was thinking about you.... What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
Adown Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Hello pal... you deserve to be heard as you worth. A big hug to you... 2005: sertraline + clorazepate until summer 2006, I quit very slowly without any problem and feeling even better. 2008 (around, I don't remember) I tried fluoxetine but leave the second day after a extrapidamidal syndrome. 2010: mirtazapine 30 mg + diazepam 10 mg, both everyday 2011: I tried to quit mirtazapine with the help of the psychiatrist, but nothing. I visit other psychiatrist and everyhing fails when escitalopram+mirtazapine and adding orfidal instead of diazepam, then I was 50mg every 12 hours of clorazepate for fix the damage of the new medication and I back to mirtazapine+diazepam. 2014: still with mirtazapine+diazepam, I quit diazepam, but then I back due I was not feeling better as I expected, I did like this: June 30/20mg, July 15/10mg, August 5mg, September just around 6 days 5mg, October 0, November 0, December back to 5/10, January same. 2015: Trying to quit mirtazapine since August, August was alternating few days between 30/22.5/15, September 22.5/15mg, October 15mg, November 15mg, December 15/7.5/0, January 15/7.5/0. My diagnostic before 2010 (all by doctors) was depression and anxiety, in 2010 was diagnostic with depression, anxiety, avoidant personality disorder, pineal cyst and don't remember if something more. Diagnostic since summer 2014 (all by doctors) is the same adding basal anxiety, agorofobia, anhedomia, depersonalization, derealization, hypothymia, asthenia. I will add obsesive compulsive disorder. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7869-adown-help-me-in-my-history/ Link to comment
Muddles Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 Thanks for thinking of me cymbalta. Still in survival mode - some symptoms better, some worse and a few new. I never know what I am going to be dealing with from day to day - so unpredictable. Hope you are ok. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 Hello pal... you deserve to be heard as you worth. A big hug to you... Thank you! I hope you are still holding on and keeping strong. Stay with me. Hugs to you pal. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Catzilla Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Muddles, I can so relate to what you are going through! I have exactly same kind of total lack of feelings, terror so bad that I'm suicidal and I think it's getting worse still about 13 months off after a year tapering. I really hope there will be some light at the end of the tunnel soon for all of us. <p>*January 2008 started citalopram for generalized anxiety (moderate depressive episode-they said). Dosage was 40-60 mg most of the time* 2011 first time I tried to get off meds, tapered possibly too fast. Everything went well for about a month, but then started to feel awful and started taking them again. Hadn't heard about ssri withdrawal.* 2012-13 year of psychotherapy, second time to get off meds. Still hadn't heard of withdrawal. After a while (maybe about two months?) started to feel so depressed that went to a doctor.* 2013 switch to Venlafaxine, because felt so tired on Citalopram and had gained weight. Was on 150-300mg, but 150 for the most of the time.* summer 2014 started tapering - June 2015 completely off* Occasionally taken mirtazapine/oxazepam/quetiapin for sleeping* 12/2015-02/2016 Had the mother of all waves!!* *07/2016 reinstated venlafaxine on a 12,5 mg dose. (Took 6 days to drag me out of that hell I was living in.) Gradually upped the dose. *Now, 11/2016 I'm on 75 mg venlafaxine. The saga continues... Link to comment
btdt Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Muddles are some of the posts missing from your thread it seems to me they are. I was sure I had posted on here since April yet I do not see any posts from me on your page. What is going on? I look at your page often tho I am not here so much anymore... how are you? WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
AliG Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Muddles. There is much love and we are all hoping for the best for you . Love , Ali Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Daisy1 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Hi Muddles, i do hope your doing ok. I tried to send you another message to introduce myself but it won't let me send. I have been able to read through your thread now. You have pretty much identicle similarities to me, and I admire your strength and determination for answers and to be a wife and mum to your children. If you wish to talk and exchange notes please do feel free to message me. Take care Muddles xx Started Fluoxetine 40mg In 2010 Switched to citalopram 2011.Fluoxetine made me very drowsy. Came off citalopram 2014 over 2 weeks tapering as advised by GP. Mild WD symptoms, brain zaps. Almost 2 years med free, happy and less anxiety. June 2016 start 20mg citalopram for anxiety, experince akathisa, intrusive harming thoughts, hallucinations, hypermania, negative ruminations, insomnia, no appetite, dioreah, racing thoughts/mind chatter. Droped to 10mg for 1 week after 10 days on 20mg, then 1 week at 15mg by alternating doses then 1 week at 20mg before dropping to 10mg again for 1 week then 5 days at 5mg. Quick taper due to reaction. Started .5mg lorozepam/ 2.5mg diazepam every other day from week 2 on cit sometimes daily for about 2 weeks stopped CT as was put on 25mg quetiapine. Stopped cit 01/8/16. Stopped quetiapine 3/8/16 Taking fish oil Link to comment
btdt Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Thinking of you.. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 I'm still so sick. Two years off now but approaching three years since poop out/adverse reaction. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 Thinking of you.. peace thanks btdt. You too. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 Muddles. There is much love and we are all hoping for the best for you . Love , Ali Thanks Ali 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 Hi Muddles, i do hope your doing ok. I tried to send you another message to introduce myself but it won't let me send. I have been able to read through your thread now. You have pretty much identicle similarities to me, and I admire your strength and determination for answers and to be a wife and mum to your children. If you wish to talk and exchange notes please do feel free to message me. Take care Muddles xx I struggle to respond to questions with the cognitive issues and to be honest the longer it goes on the harder it is to talk about symptoms. I'm sorry you are suffering so much too. It's just unbelievable what we have to suffer. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Daisy1 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I really hope you see some improvement soon Muddles, do hang in there. I can emphasise with you. It's utterly disgraceful what these drugs can do, I kick myself every day for going back on them but we were not to know this could happen to us. You have so much strength and courage. I prey you have some relief soon, you certainly deserve it ! D Started Fluoxetine 40mg In 2010 Switched to citalopram 2011.Fluoxetine made me very drowsy. Came off citalopram 2014 over 2 weeks tapering as advised by GP. Mild WD symptoms, brain zaps. Almost 2 years med free, happy and less anxiety. June 2016 start 20mg citalopram for anxiety, experince akathisa, intrusive harming thoughts, hallucinations, hypermania, negative ruminations, insomnia, no appetite, dioreah, racing thoughts/mind chatter. Droped to 10mg for 1 week after 10 days on 20mg, then 1 week at 15mg by alternating doses then 1 week at 20mg before dropping to 10mg again for 1 week then 5 days at 5mg. Quick taper due to reaction. Started .5mg lorozepam/ 2.5mg diazepam every other day from week 2 on cit sometimes daily for about 2 weeks stopped CT as was put on 25mg quetiapine. Stopped cit 01/8/16. Stopped quetiapine 3/8/16 Taking fish oil Link to comment
Muddles Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 Thanks Daisy. You too! 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Flowers Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Sending you a big hug muddles. Never stop thinking about how you are. Flowers xxx 15 yrs on 20 to 30 mgs CITALOPRAM. MAY 2014 Increased to 40 mgs per day.SEPT/NOV 2014 tapered in 6 weeks down to 10 mgs as per Dr instructions due to violent nightmares/palpitations.Given Noctamid (lormetazepam) to help with anxiety. On average took 2mg per day for 8 weeks.No taper was advised.DEC 2014 WD severe. Nervous tic in eyes and limbs, muscle pain,fluct temp, weakness, dep and anxiety, nausea, giddy, unstable when walking. Different Dr suggested taking 20mgs CIT. BROMAZEPAM 3mgs up to 3 x daily for anxiety.DEC 9 2014 Updose CIT to 30mgs. Only taking BROMAZEPAM in emergency.DEC 31 2014 Settling at 30mg CIT - helping with depression. No Brom for 2wks.Found SA.APR 2015 Trying to stabilise on 30mgs CIT. JAN 2016 Started Cit Taper reducing by 5% per month. 28.5 mgs FEB Taper held bereavement. APR Taper resumed 27mgs . MAY 25.50 mgs . JUNE 24 mgs . JULY I stupidly mixed up my BP meds with CIT. Consequently took no CIT for 3 days and doubled my BP meds. Waiting for the fallout....Holding for a while until any chance of repercussions have abated. SEPT taper resumed to 22.5 mgs . OCT 21 mgs .NOV 19.95 mgs DEC crashed. 2017: FEB 3rd updose to 20.5 mgs to try to stabilise.FEB.switched over to 75mgs of Venlafaxine XR for 3 weeks.Too stimulating so switching back to Cit. 12 March 37.5 Ven and 20 Cit. 21 March 18mg Ven 20mg Cit. 4 April 9mg Ven 20mg Cit. Xanax .50mg when needed. 13 April 0 mgs Ven, 20mg Citalopram. Xanax .50 mg per day. 5 May reinstated a small amount of Ven to stabilize 1 mg twice a day. 20 mg Citalopram at night. Xanax .25 mg twice per day.Other Meds: Losartan (BP)Started 1993 at 50 mgs at night. Seretide (Asthma) Started 1996 at 1 puff twice a day. Jan 2019 Antibiotic Ceclor 500mgs twice a day for bronchitis and Atrovent 2ml capsules twice a day for asthma. Finished the course of both Jan 17. XANAX Jan 27 - Feb 3 2019 Failed Valium Crossover. Feb 14 2019 Updosed Xanax by .0625 Feb 17 2019 Decreased Xanax by .0625. Back to .50mg daily. Update Xanax 28.2.20 tapered to .1250 mg 8am .25 mg midnight. Update Xanax 11.8.21 tapered to .25 mg at night. Current Meds 28.2.19: CITALOPRAM 20mg taken at midnight. VENLAFAXINE .9 mg twice a day at 8am and 10pm. XANAX .50 mg split into 4 doses per day. 10am .0625mg / 2pm .1250mg/ 6pm .0625mg / midnight .25mg.Update 10.8.22 .25 mg at night. LOSARTAN 50 mgs taken at midnight. SERETIDE 1 puff taken at 8am and 10pm. 7.7.19 VENLAFAXINE UPDATE: Started tapering 10% every 4 weeks. Currently .4 mg twice a day at 8am and 10 pm. 2.9.19 .36 mg x 2. 1.10.19 .32 mg x 2. 26.11.19 .29 mg x2. 26.12.19 .26 mg x 2. 23.1.20 .23 mg x 2. 20.2.20 .21 mg x2.20.3.20 .19 mg x 2. 21.4.20 .17 mg x 2. 19.5.20 .13 mg x 2. 18.6.20 .11mg x 2 .18.7.20.10 mg x 2.1.9.20.09 mg x 2. 30.9. 20 .08 mg x 2. 1.11.20 .07 mg x 2. 2.12.20 .06 mg x 2. 8.1.21 .05 mg x 2. 4.2.21 .04 mg x 2. 9.3.21 .03 mgx2. 7.4.21 .02 mg x 2. 9.5.21 .01 mg x 2. 21.6.21 .01 mg x 1. 11.8.21 ZERO! Link to comment
btdt Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Hi Muddles I have been to the Multiple chemical sensitivity clinic and sure enough have it. While there I had some testing I have already been doing many things I have not talked about ... so many it is hard to say now... some helped some hurt some nothing... seems I am always trying something new. Some of the testing done may have been perverted by the other things I had done recently. One thing that came out was I was low on vitamin C. Told to take 500mg morning 500mg nightly. I was dismayed to hear that as all forms of vit C hurt my guts... so I looked up what type of Vit C could be used if you had an ulcer... not that I have one but my gut hurts like hell when I take vit C and I had a gastro bleed years ago enough for me to be very careful. The one I found to be best for gut issues was hm I forget I have to go look.... it is this one http://www.nationalnutrition.ca/detail.aspx?ID=5538 sodium ascorbate. I am not sure if you have mcs too or not I am not a doctor. However I know you had your 23 and me test done and there are some things that people with mcs have on the genotyping so it may be worth checking. There was a study done here in Canada and these are the results. http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/33/5/971.full this one paragraph hit me straight on... the last time I tried B12 things went south I have not looked back in my thread to find it but I know it is in there... "Because impaired Vitamin B12 metabolism contributes to neurological symptoms,30 and because we had previously observed that serum vitamin B12 levels were higher in cases than in controls (in press, Journal of Occupational Medicine), we hypothesized it might be involved in MCS and sought case-control differences in MTHFR-C677T genotype." KEY MESSAGES Multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS) cases differ from controls for genetic polymorphisms in drug-metabolizing enzymes. Significant case-control differences in genotype distribution for CYP2D6 and NAT2 were identified and a gene–gene interaction between these genotypes elevated substantially the risk for MCS A useful symptom-based, reproducible, and validated case definition for MCS was applied and will be useful for future research into the role of genetics in MCS. I just found it so my head it is not around it thought maybe it would be helpful for you since you had the test done maybe hubby could sort thru you test and see. peace to you Muddles B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 Sending you a big hug muddles. Never stop thinking about how you are. Flowers xxx Thanks flowers. I hope you are doing ok? Will try and track down your thread. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 Thanks btdt. I can't quite get my head around all of the MCS stuff....maybe when my head is working a little better. I know it is a horrific condition and effects me so much. I hope you find something that works and helps you. It's awful when there are things that could possibly help but we can't tolerate because of the drug damage. It's horrifiic here at the moment. Holding on for dear life! 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted October 23, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 23, 2016 Keep on holding on dear Muddles and sending hugs or whatever you might find comfort in today. all my best, mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
btdt Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 been there and done that Muddles so much so it is my handle.... Have you tried epsom salt foot soaks... vit C? Vit C always hurt my gut so I looked up and started using the one recommended for ulcers.... sodium ascorbate. When I was at my worst I took activated charcoal I just can't remember it is helped. I wish I could help... I have been watching and reading about mcs.... and have found a list of supplements that are suppose to help... if your interested... just ask. some I have tried some I haven't. one site even had a recommended supplement for hallucinations... those black floaters I use to see I don't have that right now so I did not try it. wishing you well peace B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Adown Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Hello pal... you deserve to be heard as you worth. A big hug to you... Thank you! I hope you are still holding on and keeping strong. Stay with me. Hugs to you pal. Always with you! Don't know how it is going there, if better, worse, the same, or how, but I too really hope you are holding on, well, I'm sure you are as you always doing. People who followed your thread or have experienced not exactly this but yes similar symptoms and diseases know that you did and you're doing your best, they know how easy is to do a bad step and how difficult is keep fighting as you are doing, which shows a great determination and fighting spirit. Do whatever you think is better for you, don't feel any pressure or obligation in answer to this post or to any of the rest of the thread, just do it when you feel good and want to do it, in fact, consider if use less time in this forum or any other thing will help you, sometimes we need a break in our routine which shows to us that maybe we have to change something between the things we normally do. I think you follow me. My best wishes. A big hug to you, pal. 2005: sertraline + clorazepate until summer 2006, I quit very slowly without any problem and feeling even better. 2008 (around, I don't remember) I tried fluoxetine but leave the second day after a extrapidamidal syndrome. 2010: mirtazapine 30 mg + diazepam 10 mg, both everyday 2011: I tried to quit mirtazapine with the help of the psychiatrist, but nothing. I visit other psychiatrist and everyhing fails when escitalopram+mirtazapine and adding orfidal instead of diazepam, then I was 50mg every 12 hours of clorazepate for fix the damage of the new medication and I back to mirtazapine+diazepam. 2014: still with mirtazapine+diazepam, I quit diazepam, but then I back due I was not feeling better as I expected, I did like this: June 30/20mg, July 15/10mg, August 5mg, September just around 6 days 5mg, October 0, November 0, December back to 5/10, January same. 2015: Trying to quit mirtazapine since August, August was alternating few days between 30/22.5/15, September 22.5/15mg, October 15mg, November 15mg, December 15/7.5/0, January 15/7.5/0. My diagnostic before 2010 (all by doctors) was depression and anxiety, in 2010 was diagnostic with depression, anxiety, avoidant personality disorder, pineal cyst and don't remember if something more. Diagnostic since summer 2014 (all by doctors) is the same adding basal anxiety, agorofobia, anhedomia, depersonalization, derealization, hypothymia, asthenia. I will add obsesive compulsive disorder. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7869-adown-help-me-in-my-history/ Link to comment
Ketiperri Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Hi Muddles. How are you? Have you tried ayahuasca? I took 45mg of mirtazapine one year ago one month (August 2015 - September 2015) Because i was anxiety. my symptomps: no memory no short -term memory, no emotion, perception, time and space Disorientation, no planning, learning ability, no concentration, imagination power, I do not feel temperature, tastes, smells, poor cognition, confusion, headache in the frontal and temporal lobe, the brain is empty, there is no logical thinking, dr / dp, suicidal thinks Link to comment
btdt Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Keep holding on Muddles and while your at it give this a bit of thought... The dog coming home from the groomers made you ill.. that is chemical sensitivity... there are all sorts of nasty chemicals in cleaning products body care products we really can live without. The perfume industry does not have to list what they put in their products some have tested to be bad. Vinegar and baking soda can be used to clean most anything... all sorts of room fresheners candles laundry soap can cause problems in mental and physical health. Sometimes when we are use to having all these things in your homes we don't notice the affect they have on us... it started with me about twelve years ago I thought I was just sensitive to smell and kept changing products for all these year... reaction just got worse. I can't say if your the same as me but if you are limiting use of anything with scents may help you to feel better... opening the windows and airing out the house goes a long way to feeling better it is a start... putting scented things in zip lock bags does too... I eventually threw them all in the garbage but started with zip lock bags. I hope this is a bit helpful to you Muddles... wishing you peace B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 What has helped me most is avoiding chemicals and I am much more sensitive than I thought ... I bought a respirator a half mask one with filters ... it is the same sort of thing a person painting a car would war in an autobody shop I bought it when I was trying to shop one day and had to leave a store due to smells think it was whatever pesticide they use... most store spray their ****... we get to breath it.... so I got sick got mad and bought myself a respirator... helped so much but looks unappealing is the nicest way I can put it... having one on hand when the dog gets home from the groomers or you have to go into a situation with perfume ect... is well worth the investment... looks stupid and I no longer care... without it I would be sick sometimes for hours or days... jerking tired had to lay in bed could not think right... not a wonder thing but it has helped a lot.... maybe santa will bring you one if you ask... I am rather amazed at the difference it has made... WARNING: This mask failed me when in a cab sprayed with febreze... I ask the guy what the smell was he said he just sprayed well with febreze and showed me the can... metalic looking can with an orange spray top... for heavens sakes don't use that ... it put me in bed for a wk being in the care less than 10 min with the window down and my head out the window... they are not perfect... but they help peace to you Muddles WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 If you do buy a mask Muddles get the MSA advantage 200 with GME P100 filters and buy spares and keep them with you. I contacted the company who makes the filters and was told use and humidity wear them out. He could not give me a timeline of wear as they were not meant for this use originally. I hope your able to enjoy you kids some this holiday season... and as always wish you peace. B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Vit E 400 mg Vit C sometimes it bothers me CQ10 B1 a must if I want to think... B5 for racing thoughts When I have a reaction Glycine and a lot of water helps push crap out... vit C too is suppose to do that by ramping up the P450 that is why you don't take vit C before dental freezing wish I knew that before.... glutathione selenium mollybedum all suppose to help stop reactions... not sure but I always go straight for the Glycine if I have to go out I load up before I go and with all these things and wear my mask usually helps unless it is morning I can't seem to walk in the mornings at all... jerk and stagger mostly. I am generally up at 4am so there is not much to do at that time anyway so it works kind of. hope things have improved some muddles. peace B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Roxy3 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I was on Mirtazipine for about one and a half years, it quits working. I went through withdrawals from it too, they didn't last for along time. You will be ok, the symptoms you are having now are withdrawal. Hang in there. Prozac 21 years off 5 years Benzo 20 years off 6 years 50 mg Amitriptaline started 10/15 still on 20 mg buspar started 1/16 still on 5 mg Abilify started 1/16 still on, tapering now down to 2 mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Hello pal... you deserve to be heard as you worth. A big hug to you... Thank you! I hope you are still holding on and keeping strong. Stay with me. Hugs to you pal. Always with you! Don't know how it is going there, if better, worse, the same, or how, but I too really hope you are holding on, well, I'm sure you are as you always doing. People who followed your thread or have experienced not exactly this but yes similar symptoms and diseases know that you did and you're doing your best, they know how easy is to do a bad step and how difficult is keep fighting as you are doing, which shows a great determination and fighting spirit. Do whatever you think is better for you, don't feel any pressure or obligation in answer to this post or to any of the rest of the thread, just do it when you feel good and want to do it, in fact, consider if use less time in this forum or any other thing will help you, sometimes we need a break in our routine which shows to us that maybe we have to change something between the things we normally do. I think you follow me. My best wishes. A big hug to you, pal. Thank you. I am still struggling so much. I appreciate you coming here and giving some support. I really hope you are coping. Thinking of you pal. Hugs <3 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 I was on Mirtazipine for about one and a half years, it quits working. I went through withdrawals from it too, they didn't last for along time. You will be ok, the symptoms you are having now are withdrawal. Hang in there. Thank you. Unfortunately this is not just withdrawal for me..:adverse reactions and long term use etc. I'm pleased your symptoms went away quite quickly....for me I am still very sick at over two years off. I'm not expecting miracles infact- I have never expected full recovery from such damage but have always hoped some progress can be made. Still waiting on that. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
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