j1290: gets off the Wellbutrin and on with life!

[Thorin]

24 minutes ago, littlebird said:

care of headaches before they get to Stabville, USA! No

Stabville. Love it. Pre-emptive care seems like the best approach to me

[Thorin]

6 minutes ago, littlebird said:

 

You know, I got so frustrated with how frozen in fear I felt after Wellbutrin kicked in that I smoked some Indica and it pulled me out of anxietytown into a cute little window of tolerance and I could finally make headway in a task I was too scared to tackle. Thanks, Earth, you really went off with cannabis! 

I keep having this crazy experience with cannabis. I’ll be anxious, then I’ll have some cannabis oil and my anxiety will increase! But it will let me see what’s causing my anxiety rather than feeling just an overwhelming cloud of anxiety. Then I can address the underlying issue. I was a little anti-cannabis for a long while because of my childhood but I’m converted now! It may not be for everyone, and too many people abuse it (like any substance right) but used properly it’s a fantastic medicine.

[Soup]

@Thorin it was me who you were talking to on inner compass . I follow all who are tackling Wellbutrin on here . I sound like a stalker !! I am not But just always looking to see how others are doing . I don’t talk on her much because I very rarely get much feedback 

[littlebird]

13 minutes ago, Soup said:

I follow all who are tackling Wellbutrin on here . I sound like a stalker !! I am not But just always looking to see how others are doing . I don’t talk on her much because I very rarely get much feedback 

 

Not at all, I get it! When I see someone is on one of my meds, I always check out how it's treating them. Glad you jumped in! 

 

@j1290 How are the headaches today? One is creeping up, and I started thinking about headache hats again. What does it look like?

[j1290]

1 hour ago, littlebird said:

Yes!! Yesterday I was dreaming of a cool headache hat, which would also signal to those around me, "Shhh, don't talk now." I thought about putting an ice pack on my head under a hat.

Oh of course, my dont mess with me hat!  I have cotton brain today.  I'm going to thrown one in my freezer right now, thanks for reminding me!   They're super handy.  

 

1 hour ago, littlebird said:

but if you ever get really sick from one, highly recommend. Worked so fast it was like magic. 

Holy mackeral, really?!?  Loved your account of using it!  I can just imagine myself having that dialogue.   

 

1 hour ago, littlebird said:

Hard to tell what's anxious thinking and what's real. Wellbutrin has me tripping today.

I hear that!  I go down that rabbit hole on my bad days.  I know it's probably just anxiety, but feels 100% real.  Had to practice some Claire Weekes last night of riding out the anxiety and noting the symptoms while continuing with life.   

 

2 hours ago, Thorin said:

But Xanax has a way of creeping up on you so just use it with a really healthy degree of respect for what a powerful medication it is.

So true.  I used to torture myself and refuse to take any, at the potential risk to business and social relationships when I'm in heavy WD.   My therapist told me to lighten up and I'm glad I did.    For those WD days that have me super irritable and I have to work, I take a crumb and it knocks the edge off enough for me to get by.  It would be *really* easy to get used to taking these, so in the back of my head it's always ringing that taking more than 2 times  a week will get you hooked(read that somewhere).   

 

If I took stuff like that more often I'd surely look into CBD oil and the like.  Heard good stuff about it and I would wager it's much safer.  

 

@littlebird  Here's the two I got:  This one has full coverage, and the other is open on top.  The full coverage one holds tighter, and some times I prefer one over the other.  The open top one is easier to sleep in for instance.  For $20 I think they're a solid buy. 

[littlebird]

56 minutes ago, Thorin said:

I keep having this crazy experience with cannabis. I’ll be anxious, then I’ll have some cannabis oil and my anxiety will increase! But it will let me see what’s causing my anxiety rather than feeling just an overwhelming cloud of anxiety. Then I can address the underlying issue.

 

Feels like it gives me a different perspective on things, and yeah, what's underlying things! Some of my deepest trauma work was after some cannabis oil or tincture. Definitely goes deeper than smoking, but WHOO you're on that ride for hours so don't overdo it anyone who stumbles on this and considers it! I've also made myself sick as a dog overestimating what I could handle with ingesting cannabis. 

 

I took a long period off of it in my life, also for childhood reasons. My mom is a huge stoner. While I was completely off weed, and at that time working pretty hard to do so as I adjusted to massive new doses of psych meds, she flew out to CA and asked me to use my medical card that was still valid to buy her weed (and mail it back for her, but I made her do that part as I grew some brand new boundaries). So yeah, I had my concerns about it as well! 

 

Plus psych doctors are quick to point out it can worsen depression and is addictive (which, let's be real, it can be), so I was down to try quitting for a long time and clearing out my system. Turns out, I do better with PTSD with that perspective shift at times! 

 

Plus, especially the older I get, I do better with stuff that grew from the earth. Mushrooms have been pretty game-changing with trauma revelations and mind-shifts. 

 

8 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Oh of course, my dont mess with me hat!  I have cotton brain today.  I'm going to thrown one in my freezer right now, thanks for reminding me!   They're super handy.  

 

Cotton brain!! I so know what you mean. I bet those are nice when it gets hot down there in the south. I'm freeeeeezing up here in the north and jealous of your weather.

 

10 minutes ago, j1290 said:

So true.  I used to torture myself and refuse to take any, at the potential risk to business and social relationships when I'm in heavy WD.   My therapist told me to lighten up and I'm glad I did.    For those WD days that have me super irritable and I have to work, I take a crumb and it knocks the edge off enough for me to get by.

 

Ooh, you know what, maybe this is a good call as I get used to IR. The anxiety is flipping killing me, dude. I usually reserve benzos for the worst of the worst, but... if I am not able to think straight or get things done... maybe a tiny crumb wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Something to keep in the back of my head.

 

Tbh, it's Wellbutrin time and I'm too anxious to want to take it. Just looked at the clock and it's past time, too!! Alto ain't gonna like that. Dangit! Okay, cutting my ramble short and running inside to be a good bird and take my meds. Shoot, I was doing so well on the schedule today too. 

 

Appreciate you both so much!!! 

[j1290]

I'm running off to work @littlebird I edited my previous post to include links to the headache hats I use.  

[Thorin]

2 hours ago, Soup said:

@Thorin it was me who you were talking to on inner compass . I follow all who are tackling Wellbutrin on here . I sound like a stalker !! I am not But just always looking to see how others are doing . I don’t talk on her much because I very rarely get much feedback 

I high! I follow a few people without commenting either. It’s just good to know how others are doing and know that you’re not alone!

[littlebird]

3 hours ago, j1290 said:

It would be *really* easy to get used to taking these, so in the back of my head it's always ringing that taking more than 2 times  a week will get you hooked(read that somewhere).   

 

That is good to know. One of the reasons I've steered clear of it is my mom has had some pill addiction issues, benzos included, and I just didn't want to mess with that. It helped me get over a hump today, but I can't make a habit of it. Plus, too numbing/dumbing down. I'll try some CBD tomorrow maybe instead!

 

3 hours ago, j1290 said:

Here's the two I got:  This one has full coverage,

 

That looks so cozy!! If headaches continue with this taper, that might be in order. I've been wanting to hide my eyes!

[Thorin]

4 hours ago, littlebird said:

Feels like it gives me a different perspective on things, and yeah, what's underlying things! Some of my deepest trauma work was after some cannabis oil or tincture. Definitely goes deeper than smoking, but WHOO you're on that ride for hours so don't overdo it anyone who stumbles on this and considers it! I've also made myself sick as a dog overestimating what I could handle with ingesting cannabis. 

I’m a bit of a lightweight so approach cannabis respectfully. Sai Razvi is doing some amazing work with cannabis and therapy in the states at the moment. He came out to Australia and both my therapist and my psychiatrist are doing a sort of ‘apprenticeship’ under him. Both have a strong interest in psychedelics given the work that’s coming out and my therapist is actually involved in a few psychedelics trials in Australia!

 

4 hours ago, littlebird said:

I took a long period off of it in my life, also for childhood reasons. My mom is a huge stoner. While I was completely off weed, and at that time working pretty hard to do so as I adjusted to massive new doses of psych meds, she flew out to CA and asked me to use my medical card that was still valid to buy her weed (and mail it back for her, but I made her do that part as I grew some brand new boundaries). So yeah, I had my concerns about it as well! 

I’ve got a lot I could say about learning boundaries with parents and them not liking it….. maybe another time….

4 hours ago, littlebird said:

Plus psych doctors are quick to point out it can worsen depression and is addictive (which, let's be real, it can be), so I was down to try quitting for a long time and clearing out my system. Turns out, I do better with PTSD with that perspective shift at times! 

Absolutely many people abuse cannabis. It’s not good to abuse ANYTHING. But used with respect it can be a great tool in you toolkit.

 

4 hours ago, littlebird said:

 

Plus, especially the older I get, I do better with stuff that grew from the earth. Mushrooms have been pretty game-changing with trauma revelations and mind-shifts. 

Something I’m very interested in and have done a bunch of research on. Keen to chat about this stuff but not sure this is the platform for it…..

 

[Thorin]

4 hours ago, j1290 said:

So true.  I used to torture myself and refuse to take any, at the potential risk to business and social relationships when I'm in heavy WD.   My therapist told me to lighten up and I'm glad I did.    For those WD days that have me super irritable and I have to work, I take a crumb and it knocks the edge off enough for me to get by.  It would be *really* easy to get used to taking these, so in the back of my head it's always ringing that taking more than 2 times  a week will get you hooked(read that somewhere).

I’m so torn but I’m very aware this is coloured by my own experience. It appears that it’s working for you at the moment 🤷‍♂️. Also, any adult is entitled to do whatever they feel as long as they don’t hurt anyone else. I try to make that my general philosophy. Maybe this is what helps you get through and succeed….. either way you’re flying through this taper

[j1290]

2 hours ago, Thorin said:

It appears that it’s working for you at the moment 🤷‍♂️

I'm super scared of these things, I take maybe one .250 tablet over a period of 3 months.  That's just me, though, and my situation.   I've accepted that I'm taking an addiction risk every time I use that stuff, so I'm pretty thoughtful about it.  Certain days I'm in WD la - la land and have a loose tongue I just can't hardly control.  Everything about meds and tapering is messy, at least for me.  

[j1290]

DAY 5   3/10 WD is starting to kick in, brain cramps and pressure and whatnot.  Milder than before, but still WD.  Overall I'm handling things well and restrained.   Had a complicated no win situation today I could have handled better I guess but I did well enough all things considered.  Maybe I'll talk to my coach this weekend.   Really glad I got to therapy tonight, helped defuse a situation.   

[Thorin]

9 minutes ago, j1290 said:

I'm super scared of these things, I take maybe one .250 tablet over a period of 3 months.  That's just me, though, and my situation.   I've accepted that I'm taking an addiction risk every time I use that stuff, so I'm pretty thoughtful about it.  Certain days I'm in WD la - la land and have a loose tongue I just can't hardly control.  Everything about meds and tapering is messy, at least for me.  

No judgement from me man. We all do what he have to, to get through. My understanding is that you’d have to be taking them every week, or for a few days in a row before they’ll get their hooks in you. 

 

8 minutes ago, j1290 said:

3/10 WD is starting to kick in, brain cramps and pressure and whatnot.  Milder than before, but still WD.  Overall I'm handling things well and restrained.   Had a complicated no win situation today I could have handled better I guess but I did well enough all things considered.  Maybe I'll talk to my coach this weekend.   Really glad I got to therapy tonight, helped defuse a situation.   

Glad it’s a bit milder…..

glad you got therapy too! Wish I did. Next Friday will come around soon enough 

[littlebird]

10 hours ago, j1290 said:

brain cramps and pressure and whatnot

 

I'd been wondering if this was Wellbutrin-related! The brain cramp is a good term, feels like brain is a shriveled/dehydrated. Weird feeling! Better than brain zaps from going too fast, I guess?

 

10 hours ago, j1290 said:

Maybe I'll talk to my coach this weekend.   Really glad I got to therapy tonight, helped defuse a situation.

 

Sounds like you've got some good people in your corner! Glad situation got defused.

[littlebird]

Haha, oops, meant to post on my thread! Whoops, this is gonna be a "double/triple check work" day.

[j1290]

5 hours ago, littlebird said:

I'd been wondering if this was Wellbutrin-related! The brain cramp is a good term, feels like brain is a shriveled/dehydrated. Weird feeling! Better than brain zaps from going too fast, I guess?

Not gonna lie,  I got that term from somebody else 😆 It's a good description for a hard to describe phenomenon.  When I was on 450mg of IR my brain would do flips.  Sounds like things are going well with your drop to 50 mg, woo hoo!  

[j1290]

DAY 6 This is historically a NSFW day.  I was doing great till late afternoon and the symptoms are rolling back in.   All much less than in prior months, I kinda can't believe I managed to work on days like that, but somehow I did.   Still things aren't bad-bad, I can get by, 3/10.   I'm bitterly bemoaning my fate internally about the next week or two before things settle down, I don't think that's helpful though.  One day at a time.  I've done this 5 other times, one more won't hurt me, and things really will be easier on the other side of this taper.   

 

Realistically I'm still at a theraputic dose, not to mention my sleep schedule is upside down, so this isn't a recipe for blue skies and rainbows, feeling hungover goes with the territory.   Next month, down to 110mg, and things really will get better.   I can't wait.  I still have some kind of emotional blunting going on that I will not miss.   If trends continue, tapering will be inconvenient, but get closer to fading into the background of my life.   

[SonSetFree]

Hey @j1290!  

 

I see you’re still having the afternoon headaches.  What are your times and doses?

 

Did spacing your morning and midday dose push the symptoms to later in the day?

 

@littlebird @Thorin  routing for you guys too.  @littlebirdyour situation is very similar to my wife’s.  Y’all are on a similar cocktail and down around 22 mg of WB.  
 

-sonsetfree’s husband 

[littlebird]

1 hour ago, SonSetFree said:

 @littlebirdyour situation is very similar to my wife’s.  Y’all are on a similar cocktail and down around 22 mg of WB.

How's she doing, if you don't mind me asking? Sending her the best possible vibes in this journey! It's a trip.

[Thorin]

1 hour ago, SonSetFree said:

Hey @j1290!  

 

I see you’re still having the afternoon headaches.  What are your times and doses?

 

Did spacing your morning and midday dose push the symptoms to later in the day?

 

@littlebird @Thorin  routing for you guys too.  @littlebirdyour situation is very similar to my wife’s.  Y’all are on a similar cocktail and down around 22 mg of WB.  
 

-sonsetfree’s husband 

Hey thanks for your kind thought!

[SonSetFree]

1 hour ago, littlebird said:

How's she doing

She’s out of the pit of deep despair but far from sunny days (even though she gets peaks of sunlight here and there).  She is at 1.5 years into this mess, although she had suffered to some degree for years before.  We just didn’t know that it was the CT and changing of medication.  She is close to your age.  You WILL both get through this. 

[littlebird]

30 minutes ago, SonSetFree said:

She’s out of the pit of deep despair but far from sunny days (even though she gets peaks of sunlight here and there).  She is at 1.5 years into this mess, although she had suffered to some degree for years before.  We just didn’t know that it was the CT and changing of medication.  She is close to your age.  You WILL both get through this. 

 

Thank you, I needed to hear this! Calculated how long it'll take to taper off, and got a bit daunted. I really appreciate the encouragement and hope. Glad she has someone in her life who gets it and is on the same path in her life! 

[j1290]

4 hours ago, SonSetFree said:

I see you’re still having the afternoon headaches.  What are your times and doses?

 

Did spacing your morning and midday dose push the symptoms to later in the day?

Hello there!  My headaches were helped by changing the dosage times.  Appreciate you suggesting that!  I reduced the meds and now I've got the WD stuff so it's all a bit pear shaped but when I get past this part I'll use the dose times as a tool to fine tune.  Things are getting easier.  

 

1 hour ago, SonSetFree said:

We just didn’t know that it was the CT and changing of medication.

I never had a clue about this stuff, had no idea what the side effects were or how it affected my quality of life.  Glad to hear you're making progress.  It's never as fast as it ought to be.  

[j1290]

DAY 7  4/10 typical day 7 side effects.  Actually doing much better than last month.  Headache/head stuff etc but much more tolerable.  Broke down and took 1/4 sumatriptan that probably helped a little.  Getting into the lightheadedness that's discomforting.  Luckily since I have less headaches and whatnot I'm less irritable.  The next week or so is basically hitting the rapids of my taper, lots of rough water ahead.  @littlebird said it best when it comes to the next week or so, buy the ticket, ride the ride.   I'm going for a ride.  Things really are improving.  If this continues the next cut will be the easiest yet. 

 

Going back into my cave to watch some movies now ᕦʕ •ᴥ•ʔᕤ

[littlebird]

13 hours ago, j1290 said:

when it comes to the next week or so, buy the ticket, ride the ride.   I'm going for a ride.  Things really are improving.  If this continues the next cut will be the easiest yet.

 

Hahaha, yup! Sometimes feels like I’m strapped in, currently on the “click click click” upward climb, wondering, “What have I gotten myself into?” 

 

13 hours ago, j1290 said:

Going back into my cave to watch some movies now ᕦʕ •ᴥ•ʔᕤ

 

Love this, great choice! Self Care Bear. Watch anything you liked?

[j1290]

DAY 8 Bah humbug.  4/10 irritable due to headache/burning scalp/etc.  Honestly much better than previous months.  Just being sensitive and overreacting to stuff.   CNS is a mess due to WD and upside down sleep schedule.  I'm fine but even my own company is annoying to me right now.  Things should lighten up in about a week.  So far nothing is out of the ordinary that would discourage me from dropping another pill to 110mg when I cut next.  The jury is still out if I'll wait 3 or 6 weeks to do that, but probably it'll be 6 weeks.  Just realized that my next cut will have me at my goal of under a beginning theraputic dose.   I think that's going to have me at a comfortable-ish level, and if the trend continues the cuts will get easier.  Let's hope.   

[SonSetFree]

On 2/3/2023 at 4:56 PM, littlebird said:

Calculated how long it'll take to taper off, and got a bit daunted.

I know what you mean…try to focus on the positive that this has an end and we only have to walk through it one step at a time.  
 

@j1290 glad to hear you aren’t doing too bad compared to last dose.   That’s a big drop but you’re still at a high dose and should be ok   Still I’d give yourself at least 4 weeks.   👊
 

[j1290]

1 hour ago, SonSetFree said:

That’s a big drop but you’re still at a high dose and should be ok   Still I’d give yourself at least 4 weeks.   👊

Hi there, Mr!   Hope things are steady or slowly improving with the Mrs.   

 

Yeah exactly I'm still at a high enough dose so it's within my personal risk tolerance.  On day 8 of my last cut I had to take 3 different meds to deal with the WD and this time none, so all things considered things are great.  I'm getting impatient to get down to under 100 mg, but all good things in all good time.   

 

👊

[SonSetFree]

19 hours ago, j1290 said:

I'm getting impatient to get down to under 100 mg, but all good things in all good time.

Impatience is the enemy around here but you’ve got the right perspective!  A little more time is all we need.  
 

The Mrs is slowly improving thanks for checking.  She needs more time too.  

[j1290]

DAY 9  4/10 I need to change my attitude.  I'm grateful I only had to take a couple tylenols today, for the family I have, to have this support community, I have a job, etc. etc.  Looking back at my previous notes, things are steadily improving.   I'm emotional right now, pretty delicate condition but not super irritable, thank goodness.   Lots of ups and downs for various reasons.  I think I'll make it through today without any prescription meds.  Overall my anxiety is notably less in general, and I've been able to sleep better as this taper continues.   Nothing is seeming particularly more vivid today.  Feeling like I have no energy, which is also par for the course.  Getting more involuntary twitches.   

 

If I want to feel better tomorrow, I have to struggle a bit today.   100% worth it.   I'm in full WD and still have pretty good cognitive ability.  Just feel like I crawled out of a bottle of whiskey this morning LOL. Without getting too far ahead of myself, I'm really looking forward to seeing how I feel around day 21 or so, because I think it will be significantly improved vs where I was at for my beginning dose.  Looking forward to the next cut.   Not gonna lie, I'd really like it if this gets easier as I get below a theraputic dose, and I think it's likely it will.  Only one way to find out.   

 

1 hour ago, SonSetFree said:

Impatience is the enemy around here but you’ve got the right perspective!  A little more time is all we need.  

 

You said it all right there!   Human nature sure is funny.   

[Thorin]

54 minutes ago, j1290 said:

need to change my attitude.

I don’t know man. Your attitude on here is pretty damn good. Do you need to change your attitude or are you giving yourself a hard time?

55 minutes ago, j1290 said:

I'm grateful I only had to take a couple tylenols today, for the family I have, to have this support community, I have a job, etc. etc.  Looking back at my previous notes, things are steadily improving.

It is good to be grateful though. I forget this sometimes

56 minutes ago, j1290 said:

improving.   I'm emotional right now, pretty delicate condition but not super irritable, thank goodness.   Lots of ups and downs for various reasons.  I think I'll make it through today without any prescription meds. 

It’s ok to be emotional sometimes. It’s part of the human condition and it’s not forever!

 

57 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Getting more involuntary twitches.

Could be from pushing the taper hard? I get them occasionally too. Through the last week anyway.

 

58 minutes ago, j1290 said:

If I want to feel better tomorrow, I have to struggle a bit today.   100% worth it

It would be nice if we didn’t have to struggle but the struggle will be well worth it when we’re off this junk. You’re flying towards that finish line already.

 

59 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Not gonna lie, I'd really like it if this gets easier as I get below a theraputic dose, and I think it's likely it will.  Only one way to find out.   

I really hope it does! I saw a chart for Lurasidone and D2 occupation yesterday. If it was correct then I am at about 50% occupation. Much further along than I thought. You’ll be hitting that elbow soon and sliding down that steep curve. It may end up being easy for you!

[j1290]

12 minutes ago, Thorin said:

I don’t know man. Your attitude on here is pretty damn good. Do you need to change your attitude or are you giving yourself a hard time?

Hey man, I appreciate you.  It's my internal dialogue that needs readjusting.  I have a lot of practice curating what I part of my thoughts I want others to see, yanno?   

15 minutes ago, Thorin said:

It’s ok to be emotional sometimes. It’s part of the human condition and it’s not forever!

For sure.  It's just normal WD stuff.  It's just my week to go through it.   Thanks for the reminder, feelings feel like facts to me in the moment, and they really are just fleeting.  

 

18 minutes ago, Thorin said:

Could be from pushing the taper hard? I get them occasionally too. Through the last week anyway.

Oh it's all part of the WD package deal.   I only noted it so when they happen again I won't be surprised.  I hardly have them anymore outside of WD.   

 

21 minutes ago, Thorin said:

It would be nice if we didn’t have to struggle but the struggle will be well worth it when we’re off this junk. You’re flying towards that finish line already.

haha it would certainly be nice if we didn't have to struggle, but heck yeah it's worth it.  Every cut is a little easier, a little closer to feeling unmedicated.  Once I hit a state where I don't feel medicated(My hunch is I'll get pretty close at some point), now I'm just dealing with getting off a substance my body has gotten accustomed to.  Irksome to have to go through WD, but tolerable.  One day soon.   

43 minutes ago, Thorin said:

I really hope it does! I saw a chart for Lurasidone and D2 occupation yesterday. If it was correct then I am at about 50% occupation. Much further along than I thought. You’ll be hitting that elbow soon and sliding down that steep curve. It may end up being easy for you!

Congrats on being at 50%!  That's a huge deal.   I'm picking up what you're putting down.  We'll see how this goes, I'll adjust my taper as necessary.   

[Thorin]

28 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Hey man, I appreciate you.  It's my internal dialogue that needs readjusting.  I have a lot of practice curating what I part of my thoughts I want others to see, yanno? 

Yeah man I know. I can see it.

 

28 minutes ago, j1290 said:

For sure.  It's just normal WD stuff.  It's just my week to go through it.   Thanks for the reminder, feelings feel like facts to me in the moment, and they really are just fleeting. 

Absolutely. If WD is the same for you as it is for me it feels very real and permanent while you’re in it but tomorrow you could feel completely different!

 

29 minutes ago, j1290 said:

it's all part of the WD package deal.   I only noted it so when they happen again I won't be surprised.  I hardly have them anymore outside of WD.   

That’s a good idea. Started doing the Glenmullen list again today to catch the change to a suspension of anything happens

30 minutes ago, j1290 said:

haha it would certainly be nice if we didn't have to struggle, but heck yeah it's worth it.  Every cut is a little easier, a little closer to feeling unmedicated.  Once I hit a state where I don't feel medicated(My hunch is I'll get pretty close at some point), now I'm just dealing with getting off a substance my body has gotten accustomed to.  Irksome to have to go through WD, but tolerable.  One day soon.   

It is tolerable but it is still really ****! I’m just gonna say it. It’s not fair. But…. It is what it is now and we deal with it

 

31 minutes ago, j1290 said:

ongrats on being at 50%!  That's a huge deal.   I'm picking up what you're putting down.  We'll see how this goes, I'll adjust my taper as necessary. 

Thanks dude. And you’re all over this!

[littlebird]

1 hour ago, Thorin said:

2 hours ago, j1290 said:

need to change my attitude.

I don’t know man. Your attitude on here is pretty damn good. Do you need to change your attitude or are you giving yourself a hard time?

 

Just my daily, "I love you guys" post. Seriously, reading your supportive exchanges tonight made me cry for the gazillionth time today, but this time happy tears, "I'm so glad these two cool dudes found each other."

 

I'd been saying on here for awhile now I wanted to cry, and the Full Moon fairy granted my wish today. Torrents! Floods! Goal reached. ✅

 

Hope you're both doing well, grateful to have crossed paths with y'all!

[Thorin]

15 minutes ago, littlebird said:

 

Just my daily, "I love you guys" post. Seriously, reading your supportive exchanges tonight made me cry for the gazillionth time today, but this time happy tears, "I'm so glad these two cool dudes found each other."

 

I'd been saying on here for awhile now I wanted to cry, and the Full Moon fairy granted my wish today. Torrents! Floods! Goal reached. ✅

 

Hope you're both doing well, grateful to have crossed paths with y'all!

That was lovely to read @littlebird. I’ve found some good people on here.

how good is crying when you haven’t been able to! I didn’t cry for years and then lowered meds and didn’t stop for months. I needed that