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18 minutes ago, Fifree said:

Holy cr@p that’s an unexpectedly difficult day! I know you plan to have your bad WD days on the weekend so you can catch up on sleep and sit around watching movies and eating chocolates. But to have to work unexpectedly and then have a” surprise” job interview thrown in? You’re a legend for handling it all well! 

 

Right? I'm hella impressed.

 

19 minutes ago, Fifree said:

i need to find out where I can try these See’s chocolates. I’ve never heard of them but they sound pretty dang good if you can just sit down and scoff a half pound in one sitting. Actually it’s probably better if I can’t find them…

 

After mentioning them, I did look into if they were shipped internationally - no! It was started in California and looks like it stayed pretty local, but they do ship around the states. I've done some pretty exhaustive binging research into best chocolate quality, and for chocolate and fillings both I vote See's.

 

If you're ever in the west coast of the states, worth a try! Plus every shop gives you a free sample, something I very much appreciated in my poor student days.

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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3 hours ago, littlebird said:

for chocolate and fillings both I vote See's.

I found a site who will ship to Au. I will choose a milestone in my ADWD and I will reward myself with a box when I get there. Choosing the milestone is a challenge tho. 

HISTORY

1995 - 2006: One at a time I've tried Zoloft, a MAOI for a short time, Cipramil, and Effexor for a short time (hell)

Lexapro career began 2006: 10 mg. 2014↘️tapered over months to less than 5 mg by cutting tablets and skipping doses. GP convinced me to ↗️to 10mg. 2018↗️20 mg. 2022↗️30 mg. 2021 Occasional 75 mg Lyrica for anxiety. 
Dec 2022: Trial 5 mg dextroamphetamine once a day. Began Lex taper Dec 22: 30 mg↘️20 mg (no symptoms). Jan 2023 dextroamphetamine 5mg x 3 daily. Switched to 40 mg Lisdexamfetamine Aug 23 due to international travel.

CURRENT

Daily: Lisdexamfetamine 40 mg once a day, Doxycycline 50 mg for skin (am) Supps: Fish oil. Magnesium and Turmeric, Women's 50+ multi (pm)

Occasional: Panadol/Nurofen/Meloxicam for headaches/arthritis; doxylamine for sleep

Lexapro taper 2023 16 Jan ↘️10 mg, (bad physical WDs) 27 Jan↗️15 mg 13 Feb↘️12 mg. 6 Mar↘️10 mg 20 Mar➡️crossover to liquid 31 Mar↘️8.5 mg. 24 Apr↘️7.25 mg. 17 May↘️7 mg. 31 May↘️6 mg, 6 week hold Switch to slide 10 July↘️5.8↘️5.6↘️5.4mg 7 Aug↘️5.2↘️5.1↘️5mg. Crossover to generic tablets from 4 Sept 23. Still holding at 5 mg, 27 Dec 23.

 

Anything I write here is my opinion based on my experiences. It is not medical advice.

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18 minutes ago, Fifree said:

I found a site who will ship to Au. I will choose a milestone in my ADWD and I will reward myself with a box when I get there. Choosing the milestone is a challenge tho. 

After reading @j1290’s reviews I’ll try them too. Thanks @Fifree

Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine
Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg
Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day
About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride 
About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day
About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine.
Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks).
Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension.

Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg;

Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Milk Kefir, Mag, Omega 3, CBD/THC.

 

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Wow they look good but MAN that is expensive!

Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine
Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg
Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day
About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride 
About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day
About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine.
Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks).
Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension.

Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg;

Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Milk Kefir, Mag, Omega 3, CBD/THC.

 

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6 hours ago, littlebird said:

You had a secret job pop quiz today during your sleep hours? You're a ******* boss, man. 

LOLLLLLLLLLlll yeah it was a pop quiz alright!  Pretty cool though, got to talk to someone important.  Makes me think I'm on the right track about getting off meds, therapy, etc. because that conversation would have thrown me for a loop not long ago.  

 

6 hours ago, littlebird said:

"I know in my bones this is not right for me." BUT if your head is giving you imposter syndrome?? Oh, let's sort that sucker out right here right now because you're a badass mfing champion.

I appreciate you, Littlebird!   

 

6 hours ago, littlebird said:

You've been mentioning some fatigue around 3rd shift.

I'm not built for 3rd shift.  Great opportunity to get off ADs, however.  Once in a while you get a perfect storm of WD+daytime commitments+big work days, but that's life.  

6 hours ago, littlebird said:

The fact that you did a pop quiz job interview in the middle of your "night," and feel good about it, is truly superhuman. Are you off tonight? Hopefully you're snoozing. 

 

haha thanks for recognizing, Littlebird!  A certain part of me still gets outraged at the indignities of life hahaha!   Thank heaven for the EMDR.  I used to take this stuff so seriously.   

 

6 hours ago, Fifree said:

But to have to work unexpectedly and then have a” surprise” job interview thrown in? You’re a legend for handling it all well! 

Thank you so much, Fifree!  Yeah I'm usually pretty whupped by Friday and catch up on sleep but the show must go on.   Just one of those days.  Somehow I'm performing well enough in spite of it all.  

 

6 hours ago, Fifree said:

if you can just sit down and scoff a half pound in one sitting.

They're a big deal in California for sure, kind of a relic of a bygone era.  Dang they are good but $136 AU is almost 4x what we'd pay for them and I'd be overselling them if I said they were worth that.  Next time you're in the US, look for them at an airport kiosk.  They still have stores in malls and even freestanding buildings, if you can believe that, for a candy store of all things.  

 

I really want some now.  I'm going to pick some up to celebrate the secret interview.  Good times!

 

  

5 hours ago, littlebird said:

I've done some pretty exhaustive binging research into best chocolate quality, and for chocolate and fillings both I vote See's.

LOL I never understood the fuss till I got that box.  Now I realize they're a lifehack to having a really amazing day.   There's a store near where I live, good to know they have samples!  The problem is I'll come out of there with $100 in chocolate as 'gifts' that I know I'll wind up eating heh

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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3 hours ago, Thorin said:

Wow they look good but MAN that is expensive!

Yeah they're $36 shipped in the US.   At $136 there better be a gold bar in that box.   

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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4 hours ago, j1290 said:
7 hours ago, Thorin said:

Wow they look good but MAN that is expensive!

Yeah they're $36 shipped in the US.   At $136 there better be a gold bar in that box.   

 

Woah, yeah for real!! Also, having not tried my exhaustive chocolate research in Australia, y'all might have better chocolate. If I ever get to go, I'm so happy to conduct research all over your chocolate options.

 

American chocolate tends to have a lot of high fructose corn sugar, so it's possible See's Candy is average chocolate that doesn't add that nasty corn syrup poison and that's what makes it taste better to my lil American palette. 

 

5 hours ago, j1290 said:

Next time you're in the US, look for them at an airport kiosk.  They still have stores in malls and even freestanding buildings, if you can believe that, for a candy store of all things.  

 

Yeah, airport kiosk might be the way to go! If anyone ever has a trip to/layover in Asia, looks like that's the one non-US spot that has See's. If anyone tries it, skip the truffles and head towards nuts and caramel. 

 

5 hours ago, j1290 said:

I never understood the fuss till I got that box.  Now I realize they're a lifehack to having a really amazing day.   There's a store near where I live, good to know they have samples!  The problem is I'll come out of there with $100 in chocolate as 'gifts' that I know I'll wind up eating heh

 

Right there with you!!! Ooh, willpower where? Maybe next time I get some, I can try cutting the pieces up so I can still enjoy them without popping the whole thing in my mouth. Gotta make it last longer! I think I have a sugar hangover today.

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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13 hours ago, littlebird said:

I'm so happy to conduct research all over your chocolate options.

haha nice!   Only one way to find out.  

 

13 hours ago, littlebird said:

American chocolate tends to have a lot of high fructose corn sugar, so it's possible See's Candy is average chocolate that doesn't add that nasty corn syrup poison and that's what makes it taste better to my lil American palette. 

I don't know  much about candy but stuff like this wouldn't surprise me at all.  

13 hours ago, littlebird said:

I can try cutting the pieces up so I can still enjoy them without popping the whole thing in my mouth. Gotta make it last longer! I think I have a sugar hangover today.

Really good idea.  Man I want some See's now.  

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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DAY 7  3/10 Head pressure, headache, whatevs.  

 

Not to complain but every day is half a dream state so I have to think for a second to remember if something really happened or not.  Like that whole pop interview thing yesterday out of nowhere, like, WTF?  Who saw that coming?   Weird, but fun.  

 

I caught up on a lot of sleep today but had some daytime hours which was fun.   Had to do half a blood pressure pill yesterday before I went in to work because I was in a sleep deficit and I knew I was being unreasonable due to that.   Really glad everything went fine, glad I took it, glad I don't take them very often any more.  Looking back to even a few months ago and wowsers I had to take a bunch of stuff to make it through the day.  Glad I had it, because it helped me get to today.   Wouldn't want to go back there, though.  

 

So on to today.  I strategically decided to do  a 3 week taper this last time to position myself for my secret job interview.  So far so good, I can't say anything seems out of the ordinary.  A theraputic dose for Bup is between 75-150 mg, depending on what you're using it for and whatever.  I'm at 140, things are definitely easing up a little bit.  Day 7 is usually a 4/10 day or worse, and at least so far it's just a 3/10, headache hat day, so not too bad at all.   5 of the next 14 days are 4/10(bad) days, according to schedule.  I wouldn't mind if that prediction were wrong and they were easier.   I keep holding out hope that after each cut it'll get dramatically easier, but look, even a bit easier sure helps.   My plan is to cut to 90 mg around the 14th of March, and as always I'm hoping that will turn the corner on side effects.  Guess we'll see.  Things could get interesting from here on out, but I hope not.  

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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DAY 8 3/10 Headache, pressure, burning scalp.  Whatev.  

Ugh so lame I have to edit all the fun out of public posts.  Guess I have to play by the rules as they are.  Day 8 is historically a NSFW day by a healthy margin, and today things are tolerable without meds if I wear a headache hat.  I can get by without it but less comfortable.  This used to be a solid 4/10 or higher, so I'm happy to report the improvement.   

 

Alright, now I better report to work. 

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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3 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Ugh so lame I have to edit all the fun out of public posts.

Ha, I am occasionally curious about what your uncensored posts would say.

 

4 minutes ago, j1290 said:

today things are tolerable without meds if I wear a headache hat.  I can get by without it but less comfortable.

That’s actually a pretty big improvement…..

 

4 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Alright, now I better report to work. 

Boring 👎🏻. I’m totally ready for a holiday

Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine
Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg
Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day
About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride 
About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day
About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine.
Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks).
Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension.

Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg;

Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Milk Kefir, Mag, Omega 3, CBD/THC.

 

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4 minutes ago, Thorin said:
10 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Ugh so lame I have to edit all the fun out of public posts.

Ha, I am occasionally curious about what your uncensored posts would say.


I'd subscribe to J1290 Uncensored, let's get that newsletter going!

 

11 minutes ago, j1290 said:

today things are tolerable without meds if I wear a headache hat.  I can get by without it but less comfortable.  This used to be a solid 4/10 or higher, so I'm happy to report the improvement.

 

This sounds like good news! Glad you found that headache hat and it helps. Hope you have one in the freezer at work! Glad to hear the Crown of Ice is still magic.

 

11 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Alright, now I better report to work. 

 

Hope your warehouse is minimally haunted, and night in the Jungle Room flies by! How'd you bounce back after the pop quiz interview in the middle of your sleep schedule?

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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On 2/4/2023 at 6:50 PM, j1290 said:

DAY 8 Bah humbug.  4/10 irritable due to headache/burning scalp/etc.  Honestly much better than previous months.  Just being sensitive and overreacting to stuff.   CNS is a mess due to WD and upside down sleep schedule.  I'm fine but even my own company is annoying to me right now.  Things should lighten up in about a week.  So far nothing is out of the ordinary that would discourage me from dropping another pill to 110mg when I cut next.  The jury is still out if I'll wait 3 or 6 weeks to do that, but probably it'll be 6 weeks.  Just realized that my next cut will have me at my goal of under a beginning theraputic dose.   I think that's going to have me at a comfortable-ish level, and if the trend continues the cuts will get easier.  Let's hope.   

 

For fun I thought I'd see what I wrote about my most recent day 8.  I keep written notes but flesh them out more here in my intro.  Brings everything back into clearer focus.   I'm actually having more fun than I would have guessed keeping myself company during this episode of J1290 and the Warehouse of Gloom(slight name change) tonight.  Symptoms are definitely higher than I'd like tonight, but I'm not irritable or annoying myself.   

 

Too soon for me to do the Floss dance in my office to celebrate, possibly things will go sideways, but I think that's unlikely.  Might be a little hypomanic.  I'll keep an eye on it.   Who knows.  

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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7 hours ago, littlebird said:

I'd subscribe to J1290 Uncensored, let's get that newsletter going!

haha maybe one day!

7 hours ago, littlebird said:

Glad to hear the Crown of Ice is still magic.

The crown of ice sure is magic alright!  Love this thing.   

7 hours ago, littlebird said:

Hope your warehouse is minimally haunted, and night in the Jungle Room flies by! How'd you bounce back after the pop quiz interview in the middle of your sleep schedule?

It was surprisingly ghost-less last night.  We'll see how tonight goes.   Jungle room was nice and tropical and cozy because I get to control the thermostat when I'm the only person there.  Perk of the job.   I got a lot of rest on Sunday so I think I'm caught up.  I'm loving being less medicated.  Think I'm going to switch it up to every 3 weeks .  Really looking forward to the next cut, as always.   

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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4 hours ago, j1290 said:

Jungle room was nice and tropical and cozy because I get to control the thermostat when I'm the only person there.  Perk of the job. 

 

Sounds cozy! Also appropriate for a jungle room to be at a tropical temperature.

 

7 hours ago, j1290 said:

I'm actually having more fun than I would have guessed keeping myself company during this episode of J1290 and the Warehouse of Gloom(slight name change) tonight. 

 

This is great! Glad you had fun in the Jungle sanctuary in Warehouse of Gloom (glad it's not doom). Sounds like you made the best of it! Happy to hear you caught up on rest too, sleep seems to help so much with this process. Hope the fun keeps coming!

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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DAY 9  3/10 head pressure, headache, vivid sensations
Caught up on sleep and quality time with the headache hat.  Having some good times in the Warehouse of Gloom and only a few spooky uninvited guests.   Looking back at my previous Day 9, things are hugely improved.  This is merely uncomfortable, but no more so than any other average day in the last 18 months.  Last month I had to take every pill I had at my disposal to make it through, it was a 4/10 bad day, and today I'm having positive and strategic conversations with coworkers without skipping a beat.  Feeling much better on this lower dose, even having some fun moments, despite some personal events today.  

 

Getting this close to feeling unmedicated for the first time in a decade or 3.   Pretty exciting stuff.  I'll cut to 90mg in a couple weeks, and I might start to feel in the ballpark of good on a day to day basis. 

 

Things are looking good for this cut, and my taper overall.  Fingers crossed I've turned the corner here and symptoms will be milder going forward.  Can't wait.      

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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5 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Looking back at my previous Day 9, things are hugely improved.  This is merely uncomfortable, but no more so than any other average day in the last 18 months. 

This is good man. Forward movement rocks!

 

6 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Last month I had to take every pill I had at my disposal to make it through, it was a 4/10 bad day, and today I'm having positive and strategic conversations with coworkers without skipping a beat.

Man that is a massive change in a very short time! Awesome!

 

6 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Feeling much better on this lower dose, even having some fun moments, despite some personal events today.  

Nice. Gave me a smile.

Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine
Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg
Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day
About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride 
About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day
About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine.
Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks).
Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension.

Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg;

Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Milk Kefir, Mag, Omega 3, CBD/THC.

 

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5 minutes ago, Thorin said:

Man that is a massive change in a very short time! Awesome!

Thanks, m80!  Its been a long time coming.  I don't feel good or anything, but less bad is a very welcome change.   It's proof that things are indeed getting easier as I go.  

 

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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16 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Thanks, m80!  Its been a long time coming.  I don't feel good or anything, but less bad is a very welcome change.   It's proof that things are indeed getting easier as I go.  

 

Ah I understand. Well I’m glad you’re feeling less bad that’s for sure.

Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine
Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg
Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day
About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride 
About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day
About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine.
Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks).
Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension.

Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg;

Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Milk Kefir, Mag, Omega 3, CBD/THC.

 

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21 hours ago, j1290 said:

Things are looking good for this cut, and my taper overall. 

This is so great to hear. It's cool that your side effects get less as you cut. I know you have put in some very hard yards with Effexor before and you deserve a smooth ride off this one!

 

From what I read here, mine are likely to get worse as I cut dose. I try and read/watch other taper stories where people have successful done the 50%/fortnight taper with no big problems to balance out my world view tho and stop me getting too pessimistic.

 

You'll be off and free before you know it! 

HISTORY

1995 - 2006: One at a time I've tried Zoloft, a MAOI for a short time, Cipramil, and Effexor for a short time (hell)

Lexapro career began 2006: 10 mg. 2014↘️tapered over months to less than 5 mg by cutting tablets and skipping doses. GP convinced me to ↗️to 10mg. 2018↗️20 mg. 2022↗️30 mg. 2021 Occasional 75 mg Lyrica for anxiety. 
Dec 2022: Trial 5 mg dextroamphetamine once a day. Began Lex taper Dec 22: 30 mg↘️20 mg (no symptoms). Jan 2023 dextroamphetamine 5mg x 3 daily. Switched to 40 mg Lisdexamfetamine Aug 23 due to international travel.

CURRENT

Daily: Lisdexamfetamine 40 mg once a day, Doxycycline 50 mg for skin (am) Supps: Fish oil. Magnesium and Turmeric, Women's 50+ multi (pm)

Occasional: Panadol/Nurofen/Meloxicam for headaches/arthritis; doxylamine for sleep

Lexapro taper 2023 16 Jan ↘️10 mg, (bad physical WDs) 27 Jan↗️15 mg 13 Feb↘️12 mg. 6 Mar↘️10 mg 20 Mar➡️crossover to liquid 31 Mar↘️8.5 mg. 24 Apr↘️7.25 mg. 17 May↘️7 mg. 31 May↘️6 mg, 6 week hold Switch to slide 10 July↘️5.8↘️5.6↘️5.4mg 7 Aug↘️5.2↘️5.1↘️5mg. Crossover to generic tablets from 4 Sept 23. Still holding at 5 mg, 27 Dec 23.

 

Anything I write here is my opinion based on my experiences. It is not medical advice.

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3 minutes ago, Fifree said:

From what I read here, mine are likely to get worse as I cut dose. I try and read/watch other taper stories where people have successful done the 50%/fortnight taper with no big problems to balance out my world view tho and stop me getting too pessimistic.

 

You never know, you might be one of those folks who get off easy. We all react so differently! What we tell ourselves might also affect this, so it may be helpful to tell yourself, "That's that person's story, doesn't mean it'll happen to me," when you read a rough report and, "I could get off this easily as well," when you read someone's story of ease. Hope it's a good one for you!

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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31 minutes ago, littlebird said:

Hope it's a good one for you!

Thanks lovely. Me too! Swimmy head today's got me worried

 

HISTORY

1995 - 2006: One at a time I've tried Zoloft, a MAOI for a short time, Cipramil, and Effexor for a short time (hell)

Lexapro career began 2006: 10 mg. 2014↘️tapered over months to less than 5 mg by cutting tablets and skipping doses. GP convinced me to ↗️to 10mg. 2018↗️20 mg. 2022↗️30 mg. 2021 Occasional 75 mg Lyrica for anxiety. 
Dec 2022: Trial 5 mg dextroamphetamine once a day. Began Lex taper Dec 22: 30 mg↘️20 mg (no symptoms). Jan 2023 dextroamphetamine 5mg x 3 daily. Switched to 40 mg Lisdexamfetamine Aug 23 due to international travel.

CURRENT

Daily: Lisdexamfetamine 40 mg once a day, Doxycycline 50 mg for skin (am) Supps: Fish oil. Magnesium and Turmeric, Women's 50+ multi (pm)

Occasional: Panadol/Nurofen/Meloxicam for headaches/arthritis; doxylamine for sleep

Lexapro taper 2023 16 Jan ↘️10 mg, (bad physical WDs) 27 Jan↗️15 mg 13 Feb↘️12 mg. 6 Mar↘️10 mg 20 Mar➡️crossover to liquid 31 Mar↘️8.5 mg. 24 Apr↘️7.25 mg. 17 May↘️7 mg. 31 May↘️6 mg, 6 week hold Switch to slide 10 July↘️5.8↘️5.6↘️5.4mg 7 Aug↘️5.2↘️5.1↘️5mg. Crossover to generic tablets from 4 Sept 23. Still holding at 5 mg, 27 Dec 23.

 

Anything I write here is my opinion based on my experiences. It is not medical advice.

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5 minutes ago, Fifree said:

Swimmy head today's got me worried

 

Swimmy head is a good term, I'm there with you. Well, it's Pisces season, maybe that has something to do with it. <- You know someone has lived in California too long when...

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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1 hour ago, Fifree said:

From what I read here, mine are likely to get worse as I cut dose. I try and read/watch other taper stories where people have successful done the 50%/fortnight taper with no big problems to balance out my world view tho and stop me getting too pessimistic.

I read somewhere the mind hates a mystery, so our imagination concocts a story to fill in the blanks.  The truth is, nobody knows what will happen tomorrow, much less somewhere in the misty what if future of tapering an AD.   That includes the mods, me, we're all just guessing.   

 

I know that if something goes sideways, which it very well might, I'll handle it, just like I have every other time.  I know other people around here will lend me their support when I might not be thinking at my best in a WD.   Fortunately for me, it's not time to worry.  There simply isn't a situation at the moment.  

 

EMDR helped me with trauma related anxiety that led to me to constantly write horror movies about the future and play them in my head.  

 

If you don't have faith that things will work out, that's OK, we've got plenty to spare if you'd like to borrow some.  

 

I borrow Littlebird's mirth all the time, and I don't even ask 😉 

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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16 minutes ago, littlebird said:

You know someone has lived in California too long when...

You sleep through gunfire and earthquakes.   I gotta move.   Wish I were kidding.

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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1 minute ago, j1290 said:

If you don't have faith that things will work out, that's OK, we've got plenty to spare if you need to borrow some.

 

That's the beauty of a community like this one! We can pick each other up, and be picked up when we need it. We'll all get through this, together!

 

2 minutes ago, j1290 said:

I know that if something goes sideways, which it very well might, I'll handle it, just like I have every other time.  I know other people around here will lend me their support when I might not be thinking at my best in a WD. 

 

THAT! Might make myself a little sign reminding me: Trust Yourself. I've handled things in the past, I'll handle what comes at me next. I got this. Just gotta remember I've got this in my wobbles.

 

2 minutes ago, j1290 said:

I borrow Littlebird's mirth all the time, and I don't even ask 😉 

 

GOOD! May mirth spread like a wildfire until we're all chortling behind our keyboards and throughout our days. Laughter is one medicine I'm not interested in tapering down!

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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1 minute ago, j1290 said:

the mind hates a mystery, so our imagination concocts a story to fill in the blanks.

What a nice quote! It's so true too. Since I'm making it up anyway, I may as well make up a happy story :)

3 minutes ago, j1290 said:

There simply isn't a situation at the moment.

Oh yeah... I often need to be reminded of that 

 

4 minutes ago, j1290 said:

things will work out

That's the whole story right there.

4 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Littlebird's mirth

Oh yes @littlebirdmakes me laugh all the time.

HISTORY

1995 - 2006: One at a time I've tried Zoloft, a MAOI for a short time, Cipramil, and Effexor for a short time (hell)

Lexapro career began 2006: 10 mg. 2014↘️tapered over months to less than 5 mg by cutting tablets and skipping doses. GP convinced me to ↗️to 10mg. 2018↗️20 mg. 2022↗️30 mg. 2021 Occasional 75 mg Lyrica for anxiety. 
Dec 2022: Trial 5 mg dextroamphetamine once a day. Began Lex taper Dec 22: 30 mg↘️20 mg (no symptoms). Jan 2023 dextroamphetamine 5mg x 3 daily. Switched to 40 mg Lisdexamfetamine Aug 23 due to international travel.

CURRENT

Daily: Lisdexamfetamine 40 mg once a day, Doxycycline 50 mg for skin (am) Supps: Fish oil. Magnesium and Turmeric, Women's 50+ multi (pm)

Occasional: Panadol/Nurofen/Meloxicam for headaches/arthritis; doxylamine for sleep

Lexapro taper 2023 16 Jan ↘️10 mg, (bad physical WDs) 27 Jan↗️15 mg 13 Feb↘️12 mg. 6 Mar↘️10 mg 20 Mar➡️crossover to liquid 31 Mar↘️8.5 mg. 24 Apr↘️7.25 mg. 17 May↘️7 mg. 31 May↘️6 mg, 6 week hold Switch to slide 10 July↘️5.8↘️5.6↘️5.4mg 7 Aug↘️5.2↘️5.1↘️5mg. Crossover to generic tablets from 4 Sept 23. Still holding at 5 mg, 27 Dec 23.

 

Anything I write here is my opinion based on my experiences. It is not medical advice.

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Just now, j1290 said:
18 minutes ago, littlebird said:

You know someone has lived in California too long when...

You sleep through gunfire and earthquakes.   I gotta move.   Wish I were kidding.

 

Hahaha, I sleep though gunfire and earthquakes, and bring up astrology even when I wish I wouldn't. Also the wildfires give my dog asthma. Is California in her flop era?

 

Just now, Fifree said:
5 minutes ago, j1290 said:

the mind hates a mystery, so our imagination concocts a story to fill in the blanks.

What a nice quote! It's so true too. Since I'm making it up anyway, I may as well make up a happy story :)

 

Yes, I love this!! I'm going to try to make up the happiest possible stories.

 

1 minute ago, Fifree said:

Oh yes @littlebirdmakes me laugh all the time.

 

I find this deeply satisfying. Even in the haze, still got it. 😎

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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DAY 10   Just chillin' with my bro Morrissey in the Warehouse of Gloom and having more fun than I really have any right to at work.   Nice to have less of my brain locked up and to experience a broader range of emotions.  I figured out the move with the DFWM hat.  I roll it up so it looks kinda like a bowler hat.   

 

Give me a cane and I can do a Charlie Chaplin impersonation for the warehouse cats 🤣   I crack myself up.  Good times.  

 

3/10 headache/pressure whatevs.  Better than last month so things are moving in the right direction.  I'm enjoying the silliness, but really I just want to be on an even-ish keel without the waves of tapering.   One day.  Till then, I'll ride this ************ out.   

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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14 minutes ago, littlebird said:

 

Hahaha, I sleep though gunfire and earthquakes, and bring up astrology even when I wish I wouldn't. Also the wildfires give my dog asthma. Is California in her flop era?

haha I knew you would get it!  OMG the astrology and wildfires...I pretend I'm on Mars when the sun turns red like that.  Smells amazing, too.  Poor pupper!

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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10 hours ago, j1290 said:

Just chillin' with my bro Morrissey in the Warehouse of Gloom and having more fun than I really have any right to at work.   Nice to have less of my brain locked up and to experience a broader range of emotions.

 

So glad to hear this!!

 

10 hours ago, j1290 said:

I figured out the move with the DFWM hat.  I roll it up so it looks kinda like a bowler hat.

 

Yes, I knew there was a way to pull it off!

 

10 hours ago, j1290 said:

haha I knew you would get it!

 

My friends back home used to talk about me living in California like I was in a bad relationship. "She makes you work all the time, then takes all your money. She's dangerous too. You don't have to live like this!"

 

Like someone stuck in a bad relationship, I'd argue, "She's so beautiful, and sometimes treats me real well! You just don't know her like I do."

 

Now, if I were to keep arguing, I'd say, "She only hit me once! There was that kidnapping thing, but that worked out ok. Mostly. Except for the residual PTSD."

 

I know I gotta be open to moving, it does feel like the time is coming. Might be done with city life too... I'm ready for quiet and gardenspace. 

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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DAY 11  3/10 headaches really, some head pressure, slightly vivid dreams

 

Day 11 has been boring, just the way I like it.  Well besides getting attacked by a dragon in my dream and I couldn't run.   In the first 11 days of this cut I only needed pills one day vs 3 days for the last one, and 9 days the cut before that.  That's evidence things are getting better that I can't deny.  I don't feel great but the DFWM hat is enough to get by without pills, I've certainly felt much worse so I can't give this a 4/10 rating like it was the last few cuts.  Yeah, I don't feel great, but the absence of bad is notable.  Just woke up a little grouchy but show me someone working 3rd shift who isn't.  

 

Wrote up a very rough taper schedule.  Could be done by November.  After 3 more cuts I should be low enough I barely feel this stuff, except maybe as a mild headache inducer. Looking forward to it.

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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23 minutes ago, j1290 said:

run.   In the first 11 days of this cut I only needed pills one day vs 3 days for the last one, and 9 days the cut before that.  That's evidence things are getting better that I can't deny

That’s really good progress man. Think I need to improve my note taking skills.

 

24 minutes ago, j1290 said:

don't feel great but the DFWM hat is enough to get by without pills, I've certainly felt much worse so I can't give this a 4/10 rating like it was the last few cuts.  Yeah, I don't feel great, but the absence of bad is notable

Sorry you’re feeling rough but glad you’re improving slowly. An absence of bad is an improvement even if you haven’t reached ‘good’ yet.

 

24 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Just woke up a little grouchy but show me someone working 3rd shift who isn't.  

Curious what the hours are for third shift. I worked nights for a long time in my younger years and NEVER really got used to it. Would always be groggy and grumpy the following day.

Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine
Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg
Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day
About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride 
About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day
About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine.
Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks).
Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension.

Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg;

Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Milk Kefir, Mag, Omega 3, CBD/THC.

 

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2 minutes ago, Thorin said:

Sorry you’re feeling rough but glad you’re improving slowly. An absence of bad is an improvement even if you haven’t reached ‘good’ yet.

Oh yeah, for sure, an absence of bad is freaking amazing, don't let my 3rd shift grumpiness undersell it.  I'm not super irritable.  Compared to where I was 6 months or a year ago I'm in a whole new league, honestly.  I can't complain, but I still do 😏

 

My note taking has evolved since I started keeping a journal.  I never used to write down pills before, I think I wanted to forget I had to take them.  It's been useful big time though.  It's some solid evidence of improvement.  

7 minutes ago, Thorin said:

Curious what the hours are for third shift. I worked nights for a long time in my younger years and NEVER really got used to it. Would always be groggy and grumpy the following day.

9p to 6a more or less.  I haven't done it in a minute, but duty calls.   I'm much less irritable this time around without the pills, less stressed out.  Yeah groggy and grumpy is right, I feel a little hungover from the WD too.  I look at it as a gift for tapering without interacting with others.  WD hasn't helped my working relationships, and this should bridge me to get to a very low dose before I go on to whatever is next.  

 

Can't wait to see what tapering from a low dose looks like.  I think it's going to get more tolerable in certain ways.  The lack of Facebook groups devoted to tapering Bupropion is a good sign 😆

 

Night shift is really cool in certain ways and I have fun with it, but I wouldn't recommend it long term for sure.  

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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54 minutes ago, j1290 said:

I'm not super irritable.  Compared to where I was 6 months or a year ago I'm in a whole new league, honestly. 

That’s amazing to hear! Me too really despite the current wave (which also seems to be improving slowly)

 

55 minutes ago, j1290 said:

It's been useful big time though.  It's some solid evidence of improvement. 

I think I’ll need this when I restart my taper.

 

56 minutes ago, j1290 said:

9p to 6a more or less.  I haven't done it in a minute, but duty calls.   I'm much less irritable this time around without the pills, less stressed out.  Yeah groggy and grumpy is right, I feel a little hungover from the WD too. 

Oof that’s rough. I don’t envy you! Good you’re less irritable.

 

56 minutes ago, j1290 said:

look at it as a gift for tapering without interacting with others.  WD hasn't helped my working relationships, and this should bridge me to get to a very low dose before I go on to whatever is next. 

That’s pretty damn good. I look at working from home in a similar way at the moment.

 

57 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Can't wait to see what tapering from a low dose looks like.  I think it's going to get more tolerable in certain ways.  The lack of Facebook groups devoted to tapering Bupropion is a good sign 😆

It’s pretty exciting if a little scary. There aren’t many groups for my med either. Not sure what the go is there. The one I found was small and you weren’t allowed to say anything negative about the med so I dumped it pretty damn quick.

 

59 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Night shift is really cool in certain ways and I have fun with it, but I wouldn't recommend it long term for sure.  

I used to enjoy the time to myself

Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine
Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg
Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day
About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride 
About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day
About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine.
Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks).
Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension.

Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg;

Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Milk Kefir, Mag, Omega 3, CBD/THC.

 

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1 hour ago, j1290 said:

Well besides getting attacked by a dragon in my dream and I couldn't run.

 

I'm intrigued. What was the setting? Did the dragon get you? Sounds like an epic nightmare.

 

1 hour ago, j1290 said:

9p to 6a more or less.  I haven't done it in a minute, but duty calls.   I'm much less irritable this time around without the pills, less stressed out.  Yeah groggy and grumpy is right

 

That's brutal, my man. 5 days a week? For some people, that's a natural schedule they keep (and I'm sure their ancestors kept our ancestors safe on third shift watches around the campfire), but if that doesn't come naturally it can be hard on the mental health. Glad you're looking at other options!

 

1 hour ago, j1290 said:

I feel a little hungover from the WD too

 

Me too! I did not expect that when I stopped drinking I'd still get hangovers. Not cool, meds, not cool.

 

1 hour ago, j1290 said:

Night shift is really cool in certain ways and I have fun with it, but I wouldn't recommend it long term for sure. 

 

Glad you're making the most of it and looking at other daywalking options!

 

1 hour ago, j1290 said:

I don't feel great but the DFWM hat is enough to get by without pills, I've certainly felt much worse so I can't give this a 4/10 rating like it was the last few cuts.  Yeah, I don't feel great, but the absence of bad is notable.  Just woke up a little grouchy but show me someone working 3rd shift who isn't.

 

This all sounds so promising! Absence of bad is good with these pills. You getting enough sunlight in a day and/or have a sun lamp in the Jungle Room?

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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