Muddles Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 Also btdt - did you cold turkey? I feel I am prolonging the agony here. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
mlrp Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Dear Muddles. Just a hug all the way over the ocean to you in my favorite part of the UK. If I could take some of it on for you, I would. 04/2013 diagnoses: severe insomnia, major depressive disorder, anxiety disorder, agoraphobia. PTSD (my diagnosis) Original scripts: 30 mg mirtazapine (Remeron) (1x day), 75 mg Bupropion HCL (Wellbutrin) (2x day), and 0.5 lorazepam (1x day or as needed) 05/05/14: Onset of acute Wellbutrin withdrawal symptoms after haphazard "taper" of 6-8 wks. 05/10/14: Joined this site. 05/11/14: Reinstated approx. 25 mg Wellbutrin (1x day) 05/14/14: Switched to 12.5 mg Wellbutrin (2x day) 06/28/14: Changed lorazepam dosing to .25 mg 2x a day - seems to be reducing anxiety flare-ups 07/28/14: Dosing Wellbutrin in a (home made) solution form 12.5 mg (2x day) 08/15/14: Remeron 28 25.2 22.7 20.5 18.5 16.7 15.1 13.6 mg (home made) solution 05/16/15: Have been dosing lorazepam at .5 mg in the morning, .25 mg in the afternoon, and .25 mg at bedtime. Anxiety has increased somewhat, possibly due to tolerance. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus mammaP Posted August 1, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 1, 2014 Stopping by to say Hi Muddles, I haven't been posting much lately but think about you often. **I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge. Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem) 1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat 2002 effexor. Tapered March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads. Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013 Restarted taper Nov 2013 OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015 Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014 Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg July 2017 30mg. May 15 2018 25mg Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33 Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 Thank you both. Has anyone heard of tardive dysphoria? Can you recover? Will I ever 'feel' again? 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
alex Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Thank you both. Has anyone heard of tardive dysphoria? Can you recover? Will I ever 'feel' again? Yes, dysphoria has been a hellish symptom for me. After 2 yrs of struggling, I am starting to see the light at the end of tunnel. I am in my fourth day of a clear window. 4 years aprox. on 150mgs.Effexor for situational major depression.No AD before.Tapered 150-0mgs in 3 months. Tapered Quetiapine,Xanax in the last 18 months.NO med of any kind anymore.First 3 months off acute w/dProtracted w/d ever since.Symptoms:Anxiety,anhedonia,insomnia,tinnitus,PSSD 04/13/2014 Awful Relapse.Recovered fairly fast. 3 years and 4 months off. waves and windows.Very much recovered. November 2015,health issue.Setback. Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 I hear you Alex but I went into full blown emotional anaesthesia on full dose. It's been documented that folk like me don't recover. I do try and stay positive bit it's bloody difficult when I cannot participate in life what-so-ever. I actually feel like my brain has dropped! Disturbing....like some kind of labotomy. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 I'm pleased you are having windows...hope they stick around. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Also btdt - did you cold turkey? I feel I am prolonging the agony here. Yes I did... I tried to taper and go on another snri think I took one pill but it was a horror show ...then I quit and a doctor talked me into 37.5 took one pill another horror show .. tried a couple things the neurologist had up his sleeve more horror... tried one more time to reinstate.. ditto in results... then I went and stayed cold turkey... after a vision or visit from my dead mother/God. I did cold turkey after all that and a feel I was in tolerance a couple of years before... The only psych drug I tried after the real stopping in Nov 2007 was lorazepam... .5mg took one during a trauma... worked once but I had beeren up all night in a hospital waiting to see the outcome of a loved one after a trauma... but the first one seemed to work the next one I tried the next day for sleep caused a paradoxical reaction - I am told this generally only happens to kids... but I had it. It lasted a few days... last of my drug use. I reached a point where I just can't seem to tolerate any drugs even dental freezing reacts on me and I am thinking may be the cause of how I feel lately. That and I found out more about Effexor and Wellbrutin being like cocaine which is like dental freezing there is a post about abusing E on here if you want to see that small bit of recent research by me. I too have the brain dead feeling like I have had a lobotomy and it comes and goes... no idea why but have it. It has been worse in the past but it can come back on me fast and be extreme. Peace B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 Yes I've heard cocaine has similar effects. This is disturbing. I am struggling and can't for the sake of me get out of this hole. I feel I am not existing in life what-so-ever. I look at my children and there is no connection. My daughter looks at me and I know she's my daughter but I cannot connect with her. I see those expressions in her face that remind me of when she was little and it breaks my heart because I remember how much I loved her. I cried for days when she was born because I couldn't believe how beautiful she was and the love and bond was so intense it hurt. The same with my boy. He is so sensitive - like I was. He was my best friend and everybody loves him. I used to burst with pride whenever I looked at him. I can't even have a conversation with them because I have nothing to say...like that part of the brain is just not working anymore. I am bawling here.....I would take anything just to feel again. I could take any symptom - the intrusive thoughts, the Akathisia, the apathy, the insomnia etc...but this is torcherous. I WANT TO LOVE MY BABIES. And pretending just isn't happening. They need to be able to remember me like I was. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
mattinsmom Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 You do love your kids, otherwise it wouldn't hurt that it feels different. Don't give up. Current: Lorazapam: 2mg: 4/9/15: 2mg - 1.5mg: already sick/nothing noticed. No changes in sleep noted after illness. Lamictal: 7/27/13 - 8/6/13: 400mg - 500mg(dr order) mouth sores, headache, cognitive/balance, heart palp...8/7/13 - 8/23/13: 500mg - 400mg; symptoms↓...10/10/13: 350mg; fever/flu-like <2-weeks...12/30/13: 325mg; fever/flu-like symptoms <1-week...2/10/17: 300mg; no significant changes noted. Discontinued: Omeprazole: 09/2103 40mg...5/1/14: 20mg... 8/21/14 = 0 Wellbutrin: 11/22/13: 300mg – 225mg...12/6/13 delayed reaction- mood swings, weight↓, heart palp/chest pain, alerting...12/14/13: 187mg; physical symptoms↓, neuro emotions ↑, weight stable...12/20/13: 225mg; physical symptoms return, emotions stable <1-week, weight↓...4/21/14: 187mg; weight↑...5/17/14 (neurologist ordered discontinue asap):168mg; headache, mood swings, ↑weight, sleep flux...5/24/14: 150mg; headache, mood swings, ↓cognitive/balance...6/2/14: 112mg; see above, weight stable, <3-weeks... 6/28/14: 100mg; moody...7/25/14: 87.5mg; family troubles... 8/4/14: 75mg; headaches; moody... 8/9/14: 50mg headaches... 8/12/14: 37.5mg; 8/17/14: 25mg...8/26/14 = 0 Hydroxyzine; 10mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. Mood changes/rage Buspirone: 7.5mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. No changes. Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 Why do I do it to myself?? Go and see that pompous arse of a pychiatrist?? I had forgot about the appointment until my husband reminded me and came home from work early to take me. He knew I didn't want to go, but he pushed me and as usual have in. I came home upset again...no recognition of what this drug has done. The emotional numbness and apathy he thinks will go once I'm off the drug. If it doesn't there is other underlying issues. I told him I went completely numb after 5 days on Citalopram...he changed the subject quickly. He did say that if I suffer 'mental health issues' in the future that drugs shouldn't be given due to my sensitivities. The only 'mental health issues' in the future will be a result of this withdrawel process. I am scared to death...this man was practically rubbing his hands together with excitement...he can't wait for me to get off this drug so he can label me with something! How am I ever going to get out of the system. How is my husband going to cope with what-ever is ahead once I'm off the drug without getting the mental health team involved again? Why can't this be recognised as what it is....a drug induced condition that is just not going to clear up in a couple of months like the flu would. I'm becoming this 'burden' to my family. They won't except this is a long journey and that things could possibly get a lot worse for a long time before anything gets better??? How do I get it through to them?? I just feel like I need to be on my own somewhere...where I'm not expected to just get better quickly. Where I'm not expected to pretend I'm that person anymore...to heal and withdraw this medication at my own pace. My husband is now not responding to me. I've told him I never want to see this guy again...and that is final. I do not have a mental health condition...and am not going to be labeled as having one. Oh and the last time I saw this guy I had terrible Akathisia.....he's told me today that this was a panic attack. I just agreed with him....even though my last panic attack was over 5 years ago. Panic attacks are a walk in the park compared to this torture. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
mattinsmom Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I'm so sorry. I'm rooting for you. Current: Lorazapam: 2mg: 4/9/15: 2mg - 1.5mg: already sick/nothing noticed. No changes in sleep noted after illness. Lamictal: 7/27/13 - 8/6/13: 400mg - 500mg(dr order) mouth sores, headache, cognitive/balance, heart palp...8/7/13 - 8/23/13: 500mg - 400mg; symptoms↓...10/10/13: 350mg; fever/flu-like <2-weeks...12/30/13: 325mg; fever/flu-like symptoms <1-week...2/10/17: 300mg; no significant changes noted. Discontinued: Omeprazole: 09/2103 40mg...5/1/14: 20mg... 8/21/14 = 0 Wellbutrin: 11/22/13: 300mg – 225mg...12/6/13 delayed reaction- mood swings, weight↓, heart palp/chest pain, alerting...12/14/13: 187mg; physical symptoms↓, neuro emotions ↑, weight stable...12/20/13: 225mg; physical symptoms return, emotions stable <1-week, weight↓...4/21/14: 187mg; weight↑...5/17/14 (neurologist ordered discontinue asap):168mg; headache, mood swings, ↑weight, sleep flux...5/24/14: 150mg; headache, mood swings, ↓cognitive/balance...6/2/14: 112mg; see above, weight stable, <3-weeks... 6/28/14: 100mg; moody...7/25/14: 87.5mg; family troubles... 8/4/14: 75mg; headaches; moody... 8/9/14: 50mg headaches... 8/12/14: 37.5mg; 8/17/14: 25mg...8/26/14 = 0 Hydroxyzine; 10mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. Mood changes/rage Buspirone: 7.5mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. No changes. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted August 5, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 5, 2014 I'm becoming this 'burden' to my family. They won't except this is a long journey and that things could possibly get a lot worse for a long time before anything gets better??? How do I get it through to them?? I just feel like I need to be on my own somewhere...where I'm not expected to just get better quickly. Where I'm not expected to pretend I'm that person anymore...to heal and withdraw this medication at my own pace. Dear Muddles, I feel so much for you. I chose those sentences above because this was exactly how I was feeling at one point in my life. In the end my "condition" just became an elephant in the room that we didn't talk about any more. And I was so lonely with my friends and family. But I had a therapist. A few of psychoanalytic school who wouldn't say much, just ask an occasional question but I was young and believed they have a magic trick up their sleeve. And it worked. It took years but it worked. I've been in therapy continuously for half of my life now. In the beginning it was 2 times a week and now it's Gestalt therapy twice a month. When you describe how you feel about your children, I felt the same about my baby brother who I practically raised. At that time when I was suffering from severe anhedonia I remember thinking that if all my family just died, including my beloved brother, I wouldn't feel a thing. Just that constant and complete emptiness. For me anhedonia is the worst of all symptoms because it's in a way a death of the soul. The soul for which we think is immortal. But it did go away. It was happening so slowly and gradually that I didn't see it but one day I just realised that my emotions have been turned on. Now I read it from people here that anhedonia is the most persistent symptom, the one that lingers when the others disappear but eventually it will go away. Maybe it will at first appear as a flicker of interest for something somewhere, a resonance with something deep inside you and then the flame will spread till it becomes strong enough to include your children again. I had to become extremely "selfish" before I was able to feel others again. I also often think how great it would be to have a place like this community here only with bricks where we could go and heal at our own pace without being rushed and being surrounded by people who understand. You have a great courage with handling that psychiatrist. I agree with Amy and hope there is some relief soon. big hug Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 6, 2014 Author Share Posted August 6, 2014 Thanks again bubble. Me and my husband had the biggest fall out. He is basically sick and tired of all this. He's lonely I suppose and sick of hearing about all of this. It's so hard on him and the children. I can't expect him to understand. He said 'what about me? What's the future hold for me?' I am selfish at the moment and who wouldn't be? I didn't feel any kind of sadness or pity after the argument. I never liked to argue and when we did it was always sorted within minutes. Never held grudges with anyone and confrontation was never always avoided. I fear I'm on the road to losing him...if I lose him, I lose my children. I cannot care for them or give them the love and effection they once had. This is so sad. That happy family who once had everything a family should have is filled with sorrow and emptiness. The mother connection has gone and I can see everyone falling apart around me and there is absolutely nothing I can do to stop it....nothing. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I know how this feels I am so sorry you are in this situation it should never be but accepting that it is and getting on with it is part of dealing with it best we can. There will be times like this where you slip and get overwhelmed but you will get back up because you have to. I would like to address how do you ever get away from a psychiatrist... you don't go back. Sounds too simple doesn't it... but I really think that is the bottom line. I do understand how you husband may want you to if he thinks your ill. I don't know how to get other people to believe in withdrawal or understand it because I have never been able to do it not in my real life. I have talked some about it as much as I could. Nobody gets it the doctor did not get it this is a big hurdle I wonder if Alto has any suggestions or studies that would convince your husband it may be worth asking her. Perhaps if he reads something scientific that makes sense to him he will turn and be on your side if that were possible I think it would benefit your entire family including you and him. I don't know what it would take for him to believe it... I have found other spouses are struck by the changes that came after the drug was started and they are not difficult to convince... it all depends on the type of person you husband is and how much you will believe the doctor over studies Alto may be able to point to but it is a chance and one worth taking I think. That is about the only idea I can think of just now. I hope it helps. I wish you peace. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted August 7, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 7, 2014 I'm so sorry Muddles that you have the added stress of this on top of your withdrawal issues. I can't imagine how difficult this must be for those with young families. The incredible guilt and fear of loss must be overwhelming. The added pressure of 'needing' to recover faster than you are able must be unbearable. I wish there was more that I could do to help. I don't think an argument means that you are about to lose your family. I'm sure that your husband is under a lot of stress, frightened, confused and feeling helpless. But please don't think of yourself as being selfish. You are very ill and you are doing what you need to do to survive, so that you can regain your health and continue to be there for your family. The mother connection has gone and I can see everyone falling apart around me and there is absolutely nothing I can do to stop it....nothing. It might feel like there is nothing you can do, but I think there are some things you can do to influence the outcome. The first one is to make your recovery a priority. You need to take care of yourself first, so that you do recover and are there in the future to take care of your family and children, no matter what happens in the short term with living arrangements. The other thing you can do is try and help your husband to learn about withdrawal and how to be supportive and helpful, so that he can feel like he has some control and influence on circumstances. It may feel selfish, but you are a valuable resource in your family and you need all the help you can get so that you can recover and be the person you used to be. This information from Recovery Road for family and carers may help. There are some further links at the end, one of them to a video. Perhaps you could get your husband to look at this. ((hugs)) Petu. I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Thank you both. I have shown the video that the late Tim posted and my husband actually took note and it did open his eyes to a lot more - other than what the pychiatrist seems to think...going on when the half life leaves the body!! ????Jerk 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Wolfhound Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Yes, this seems a good idea to me...I remember watching a video by a British man, who quit some SNRI antidepressants, got through a terrible withdrawal and now works as a WD counsellor. I don´t remember where I have seen it, but it could be worth searching. There is a nice video on WD by Laura Delano on youtube as well. Put on trazadone for 8 weeks. Psychic akathisia started on 100 mg. Not a single doctor believed me telling me it is all anxiety in my head. Terrible suicidal urges. Got voluntary hospitalised. Acknoledged adverse reaction, put me off cold turkey. Instalated mirtazapine to block the reaction of trazadone. 5 weeks on mirtazapine.acathisia worsened, suicidal, homicidal urges. Nobody believed. Finally they stopped mirtazapine cold turkey. My heighest dose of trazadone was 200 mg, of mirtazapine 30 mg. Since the c/t, suicidal, acathisia continuing. tried promethazine for sleep. Tried atarax. Currently taking klonopin for 10 days. Good for sleep, but my condition worsening. Unable to tell if it is klonopin or a bad wave. In the former hospital i took twice gabapentin. It should be all my medication. i was offered promethazin for sleep 25 mg and also small amount of quetiapine. Both are antipsychotics, even if ptomethszin very weak. Terribly afraid. Link to comment
btdt Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Thank you both. I have shown the video that the late Tim posted and my husband actually took note and it did open his eyes to a lot more - other than what the pychiatrist seems to think...going on when the half life leaves the body!! Jerk Did not see this do you know how I can find it? WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 Acetly's thread 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Muddles reach me through a private message k. its not all gloom and doom my friend it gets Better. Mr.a 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
mattinsmom Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 My family has struggled with me as well. "Why don't you just hurry up and quit?" "You're always feeling something!" "What happened to us?" For the past few weeks my partner and I have been really talking. She explained that she had really taken a lot of what was happening over the years as a personal failure on her part. She said that she often thought "If only I had...". She felt powerless to help me, and still does, and as the "provider and protector" of the family, she says she feels like she has failed. She also explained that when the kids were young it was very scary for her to think that someday I might do something (like kill myself) that would leave her solely responsible for the kids, something she was not prepared to be. It was very eye-opening to hear her side of the experience, not just the parts about how I'm a pain in the 'arse (and I am) but her fear and struggles with all the changes. I think that hearing her story and validating her experience has helped us both with navigating this mess. Current: Lorazapam: 2mg: 4/9/15: 2mg - 1.5mg: already sick/nothing noticed. No changes in sleep noted after illness. Lamictal: 7/27/13 - 8/6/13: 400mg - 500mg(dr order) mouth sores, headache, cognitive/balance, heart palp...8/7/13 - 8/23/13: 500mg - 400mg; symptoms↓...10/10/13: 350mg; fever/flu-like <2-weeks...12/30/13: 325mg; fever/flu-like symptoms <1-week...2/10/17: 300mg; no significant changes noted. Discontinued: Omeprazole: 09/2103 40mg...5/1/14: 20mg... 8/21/14 = 0 Wellbutrin: 11/22/13: 300mg – 225mg...12/6/13 delayed reaction- mood swings, weight↓, heart palp/chest pain, alerting...12/14/13: 187mg; physical symptoms↓, neuro emotions ↑, weight stable...12/20/13: 225mg; physical symptoms return, emotions stable <1-week, weight↓...4/21/14: 187mg; weight↑...5/17/14 (neurologist ordered discontinue asap):168mg; headache, mood swings, ↑weight, sleep flux...5/24/14: 150mg; headache, mood swings, ↓cognitive/balance...6/2/14: 112mg; see above, weight stable, <3-weeks... 6/28/14: 100mg; moody...7/25/14: 87.5mg; family troubles... 8/4/14: 75mg; headaches; moody... 8/9/14: 50mg headaches... 8/12/14: 37.5mg; 8/17/14: 25mg...8/26/14 = 0 Hydroxyzine; 10mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. Mood changes/rage Buspirone: 7.5mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. No changes. Link to comment
lexicon Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Hi Muddles, I read your story, and have been touched by what you have gone, and are going through Please remember in this struggle, that we all heal in the end .. We just have to keep walking .. Wishing you healing blessings .. Love, Lexi Hello, I am tapering Lorazepam, and my daily dose is 1.125 mgs. I followed a long hold for 5 months, ( Nov-March 2019) hoping to find some stability, but it did not work. So I resumed my taper and hold pattern. For the last 3 years, I have been using a daily microtaper, cutting .001mgs per day, with holds as needed. Symptoms are head pressure, labored breathing, palpitations, abrupt surges of dizziness, this being my worst symptom for now, internal tremors, my latest nemesis, unsteadiness, anxiety, plus many other symptoms that cycle in, and cycle out consistently. Not a day passes, without grief I take no other meds. January 2013 - 15 day quick taper off 10 mgs of Lexapro, and 25 mgs of Sertraline, at a detox clinic. Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 9, 2014 Author Share Posted August 9, 2014 Thanks mattinsmom...kinda puts things in perspective. I know my husband blames himself for not speaking up about the job I had years ago which led me to meds. I suppose they feel so helpless in all of this and he is a wonderful husband...couldn't have picked a better guy tbh. Thanks lexi. I sure am going through 'hell' but who isn't on here. Every minute of my day I spend wishing I could turn back time...can't help it. I would not have taken that job and stayed at home...looked after the people I love the most - my husband and my babies. Cuz lets face it - most of life I've given so much of my time and energy into my dysfunctional family...where are they now??? My mother - where the hell is she? 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 9, 2014 Author Share Posted August 9, 2014 Sorry - blurting out my thoughts. Hugs back at ya! ???? 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Acetly's thread Thanks I did post some videos the other day they may be under effexor I am not sure. Other people who do videos may help to convince him but science would be better if he can understand it I still suggest you Ask Alto... what to show him and your doctor. peace. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 9, 2014 Author Share Posted August 9, 2014 Thanks btd The quack won't believe anything I put to him. He believes that it's all down to the half life of a drug. He knows the science behind it all apparently. Geek!! 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Thanks btd The quack won't believe anything I put to him. He believes that it's all down to the half life of a drug. He knows the science behind it all apparently. Geek!! Ya that is what Tims doc thought too ... he was wrong. I do't know what to do with these doctors I am not good with the smart side of this and always hand off to Alto on documentation which is so badly needed. I know she has some I know it.. I have looked at it before but this is her "thing" she has been compiling it for years and I know she has it. If you have a doctor that will not listen and will not read and will not hear you... hey wait a minute that was my doctor I took him papers from Alto too... And it all comes full circle yet again hm I can't tell you what to do I kept seeing my doctor long after I went cold turkey.. I was so messed up all that time I wonder now what I ever said to him... can't recall most of it would have to read my paper journals and I am never into reading about those awful days never. I used him as a safety net in case I was to go too too crazy and have to get locked up... I thought it would be good to have a "friend?" on the inside like a jail guard you know his name at least that is how I seen it... just now I know nothing ... I need time out... still I wish you peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Had a copy of physchiatrist letter to my GP. 'I have explained that if her feeling of being emotionless persists beyond say 4 weeks then it might be worth reviewing the opinion that the cause for this was antidepressants'. What am I to do? 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I am so sorry. It's just awful when they say this sort of thing. You must feel very angry. Best not to see this idiot again. Massive hugs x The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Addax Posted August 11, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 11, 2014 Oh Muddles, I hope today is a better day. I know that lack of emotion all too well. I hope it helps you to know that at my current dose of Prozac, the lowest I've ever maintained on, the ability to access my emotions is returning. It had been a VERY long time for me and I'd pretty much given up hope ... but they're here again and I'm adjusting to having them around. Now, this letter from your psychiatrist to your GP... It sounds like he's attributing the lack of emotion to the antidepressant. Am I understanding that correctly? 1988-2012: Prozac @ 60mg (with a few stops and starts) Fall 2012: Returned to 40mg after discontinuing and horrid withdrawal Fall 2013: 40mg Fluoxetine, added 150mg Wellbutrin to treat fatigue Winter 2014: Attempting to taper both (too fast) April 2014: 9mg Fluoxetine + 37.5 Wellbutrin Summer 2014: 8 mg Fluoxetine + 0 Wellbutrin (way too fast a drop) Late summer/Early Fall 2014: Debilitating Withdrawal symptoms Fall 2014 - Wellbutrin successfully kicked to the curb but… Oct- Dec 2014: Panicked reinstatement of Fluoxetine ->30mg - held for 5yrs Jan 2021: taper to 20mg Fluoxetine then tapering by 1mg every 2-3 months Fall 2022 - held at 10mg->December 2022: 9mg->Feb 2023: 8mg ->March 2023: brassmonkey slide begins: 7.8mg -> 7.6 -> 7.4->2 week hold (April)->7.2->7mg->6.8->2 week hold->6.6-> 1-month hold ->(June)-6.5->4-week hold-> (July)-6.4 (discontinued brassmonkey slide and slowed taper)-> (Aug)-6.2->(Sept)-6.0->(Oct)-5.9->(Nov)-5.8->(Dec)-5.7->wave!->(Jan)-5.8->(Feb)-6mg and holding. My 2014 withdrawal experience: https://rxisk.org/antidepressant-withdrawal-a-prozac-story/ Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Thanks both. The physchiatrist has never put any of my problems down to antidepressant's. Gosh - if they could just spend 10 minutes in this body and head of mine...they would soon change their tune. Addax - I hit complete emotional numbness on full dose...poop-out, along with everything else. It's not just the numbness it's the lack of connection to anything or being able to do anything. It was a shock as it happened almost over night. Everything I look at that's supposed to be nice gives me a doom feeling. Not sure what that's all about - but it's hideous. I hope you're ok addax. I pleased to hear your emotions are returning. It's not quite what we asked for is it? To be emotionally numb from life. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 I'm wondering if the ct scan will show that I have half of a brain missing...it sure feels like it. Lol. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Addax Posted August 11, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 11, 2014 No Muddles, we definitely didn't ask for our emotions and feelings of connectedness to elude us. And had we known we would risk losing those feelings we may have opted not to swallow that first pill. But we didn't know... How could we have? We trusted our doctors... We had no reason not to. Sometimes I wonder if some doctors feel duped by the pharmaceutical companies they trusted in... If they feel they were manipulated and broke their oath of "first, do no harm." And I wonder how many stand-by their decision to prescribe the meds they know caused harm out of fear and/or embarrassment. I know I once urged a friend to consider taking an antidepressant. I was still buying in to the chemical imbalance, "it's like diabetes" thing. I tried to quell her concerns about meds... She never bought into what I was saying. I am so, so, thankful for that. SO thankful. Some of my thankfulness comes from a selfish place. While I am thankful because she'll never have to know the emptiness of medication or the horribleness of withdrawal, her refusal to take meds also spared me the enormous guilt I would have felt now. Sorry to ramble... I don't think a CT scan would show half a brain... It might just reveal that one side is napping in preparation of it's exciting comeback! 1988-2012: Prozac @ 60mg (with a few stops and starts) Fall 2012: Returned to 40mg after discontinuing and horrid withdrawal Fall 2013: 40mg Fluoxetine, added 150mg Wellbutrin to treat fatigue Winter 2014: Attempting to taper both (too fast) April 2014: 9mg Fluoxetine + 37.5 Wellbutrin Summer 2014: 8 mg Fluoxetine + 0 Wellbutrin (way too fast a drop) Late summer/Early Fall 2014: Debilitating Withdrawal symptoms Fall 2014 - Wellbutrin successfully kicked to the curb but… Oct- Dec 2014: Panicked reinstatement of Fluoxetine ->30mg - held for 5yrs Jan 2021: taper to 20mg Fluoxetine then tapering by 1mg every 2-3 months Fall 2022 - held at 10mg->December 2022: 9mg->Feb 2023: 8mg ->March 2023: brassmonkey slide begins: 7.8mg -> 7.6 -> 7.4->2 week hold (April)->7.2->7mg->6.8->2 week hold->6.6-> 1-month hold ->(June)-6.5->4-week hold-> (July)-6.4 (discontinued brassmonkey slide and slowed taper)-> (Aug)-6.2->(Sept)-6.0->(Oct)-5.9->(Nov)-5.8->(Dec)-5.7->wave!->(Jan)-5.8->(Feb)-6mg and holding. My 2014 withdrawal experience: https://rxisk.org/antidepressant-withdrawal-a-prozac-story/ Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Thank you Addax. I know a lot of friends have learnt a lot from what I am going through...apart my one friend who has just upped her Citalopram and is drinking every night and behaving inappropriately...she's 50!!! No we were not to know. I sometimes selfishly wish this had happened to someone else before myself. But then realise that I wouldn't actually wish it on my worse enemy. Peace and healing to you. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Had a copy of physchiatrist letter to my GP. 'I have explained that if her feeling of being emotionless persists beyond say 4 weeks then it might be worth reviewing the opinion that the cause for this was antidepressants'. What am I to do? So has he reviewed it? Sounds like he is willing to consider the cause was the drug at this point. Even if he does what would he purpose to do about it? That would be an interesting question to put to him to see what his answer would be. If you get an answer come back and lets hear it as we know a lot of people here are looking to have this question answered. Just because he gives you an answer does not mean he is right. Running it by the people here that have tried a lot of different things would be my next step whatever his answer is. Alto went on a very low dose of something way back that helped her you would have to ask her what it helped to treat as I don't recall her symptoms at the time... may be worth doing this before this doctors review to see if what she did would be an aproperiate option for you... you would have to talk to her. Just some ideas I have no answers just in case that was on already obvious. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
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