littlebird: tried tapering Pristiq - will try tapering Wellbutrin instead

[Addax]

7 hours ago, littlebird said:

The neuralgia is really, really bad! Had no idea gabapentin was helping me so much with that until it wasn’t. Get your shingles vaccines, folks! Don’t end up like me. Nerve pain is torture

Oh no! I am so sorry to read you're experiencing such pain.  Someone I know is just beginning to recover from shingles and his experience scared me into finally getting the first of two shingle shots.  I hope relief from your pain comes quickly.  

 

7 hours ago, littlebird said:

Minnesota became a refuge state for trans people today!

 

Among so much news of the opposite, hearing that Minnesota's governor signed an executive order protecting the right to receive gender affirming health care made my heart glad.  

 

Sending you soothing and healing vibes.

[littlebird]

9 hours ago, RachelSusan said:

If you ever want to compare notes on the shingles and or the Gabapentin I would appreciate doing so. I hope you feel better soon.

 

Absolutely! Did your shingles advance to the broken skin stage? When the pain was really intense right afterwards, I used tiger balm on the area and it seemed to help. The bath last night helped a lot too. Have you found anything that helps?

[littlebird]

Thanks @Addax! Glad you got the vaccine. It's nothing to mess with!

 

9 hours ago, Addax said:

Among so much news of the opposite, hearing that Minnesota's governor signed an executive order protecting the right to receive gender affirming health care made my heart glad.  

 

Me toooooo! Hopefully more good news like this follows. 

[littlebird]

Log

Restless sleep with night sweats, woke with sore neck/headache

10am - 97.5mg Gabapentin

12pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

2pm - 97.5mg Gabapentin

4pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

6pm - 97.5 Gabapentin

7pm - Grumpy

8pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

10pm - 25mg Pristiq

11:30pm - Neuralgia worsening

Midnightish - 100mg Seroquel

 

Neuralgia better, but I feel like my body is fighting something systemic off. The pain really kicked into high gear around 11pm, which is the one time of day I’m not taking Gabapentin. What if the shingles is waking back up and my body is fighting it off? Oh no!

 

Awful headache today. Feels like I’m hungover, with none of the fun of actually having had a drink. Boo! Caved and took ib profen, it helped some.

 

Ordered chemistry set type things to do this liquid GabbyP journey. It would be easier to get liquid Gabapentin from my dog’s vet than it is to get from my doctors. Why? Is it abused or something? Just give me the liquid, doctor man.

 

The variation in Gabapentin is really something! These pills have wild differences. 

 

Gratitude

My dog seems to be a bit better, we started tapering the huge dose of Gabapentin the vet prescribed as it was really bombing her out too much. She’s doing better!

 

There were some breaks in the rain, and I heard lots of birdsong. Always nice! I love the Merlin app, which lets you do a Sound ID of birds.

 

Grateful to be tapering, tough as it can be. I really was on waaaay too many meds for my whole adult life.

 

Y’all, it was a hard day, but there’s something comforting about doing this little check in here every day. Appreciating it!

 

Some of us on here talked about the inner teens waking up. Mine has been wanting to grab the car keys and sneak out (for some reason they wanted to slip out and not explain the mental restlessness that led to wanting to take a drive). It was satisfying, and I thought about how freeing it was to drive around as a teen. Not gonna make a regular habit of it, but I’m glad I indulged that part of myself and took a little drive around town.

[RachelSusan]

@littlebird Hi littlebird,

 

Yes my shingles advanced to the broken skin stage. That was back in Feb of 2022.  Because I had gotten the vaccination I was stunned to find out that it was shingles. I had no idea. Luckily it was only one patch above my knee, but it was the worse pain ever.

 

Ice packs helped a bit, and once the sores on the broken skin healed I was able to use Lidocaine Patches that I purchased from my local CVS drug store.  I would only wear them at night, as the instructions directed, but the relief did carry over for all of the next day. Another person I know that had shingles said the patches did not help them at all but Calamine lotion helped them a lot. I tried the Calamine location based on their suggestion and found that for me the relief only lasted about 30 minutes. You said taking a bath helps. I agree with you.

 

The pain is improving very slowly but it has been over a year and I am disappointed that it taking so long. I have been told by a nurse that it is not uncommon for people to take a year or more to heal.

 

You mention taking a little drive.  Actually that has helped me many times in my tapering journey. Thankfully I have a hybrid car.

 

Did you end up getting the liquid Gabapentin or are you still trying to get it?  I wonder why it is so difficult to get? 

 

It will be months and months before I do another taper, maybe not even this year. We are all different in our reaction to medication, but for me this is a very difficult drug to taper off of.  I am highly reactive to this particular medication. Also I have other medications I take that in my opinion has factored into how reactive I am.

 

I notice you take your last dose of Gabapentin at 6 p.m. and you next morning dose at 10 a.m. Do you ever experience withdrawal in between?  I ask because I am taking every 8 hours, 5:30 a.m., 1:30 p.m. and 9:30 p.m.  It feels to me that if I am late and go about 10 hours without the drug I am experiencing withdrawal. I am not sure if it is my imagination or if I am indeed that sensitive. It has really been a confusing situation for me.

 

I hope your shingles pain heals up quickly and you experience relief from your Gabapentin taper very soon.

 

Warm wishes.

 

 

 

[littlebird]

5 hours ago, RachelSusan said:

The pain is improving very slowly but it has been over a year and I am disappointed that it taking so long. I have been told by a nurse that it is not uncommon for people to take a year or more to heal.

 

Yeah... it took me a little while to heal from it but the pain got SO much better with time. 

 

5 hours ago, RachelSusan said:

I notice you take your last dose of Gabapentin at 6 p.m. and you next morning dose at 10 a.m. Do you ever experience withdrawal in between?

 

I didn't think I was, until this nerve pain started kicking up in the evenings. Since I take Gabapentin first thing as a rule, I haven't noticed anything in the mornings. 

 

5 hours ago, RachelSusan said:

You mention taking a little drive.  Actually that has helped me many times in my tapering journey. Thankfully I have a hybrid car.

 

I wish we had one! Our lil car doesn't get great gas mileage, so this will be an every once in awhile treat. Was tempted to drive today, but went for a walk instead.

 

5 hours ago, RachelSusan said:

I am not sure if it is my imagination or if I am indeed that sensitive. It has really been a confusing situation for me.

 

I'm surprisingly sensitive to Gabapentin too! Makes me wish doctors had started me on a low dose, I got walloped with a high dose of it right away.

 

Hope your pain passes soon and you get to feeling much better! I found tiger balm helped a little, but I could see that not really working for everyone.

[littlebird]

Just made my first liquid Gabapentin! Triple checked math (including asking partner if they thought it sounded like it was mathing). Ended up spilling a bit, so I might have taken a lower dosage... there's a learning curve.

 

It's hitting really hard, the faster absorption rate of liquid is very noticeable. I'm high AF on this, feeling woozy

[littlebird]

Just now, littlebird said:

It's hitting really hard, the faster absorption rate of liquid is very noticeable. I'm high AF on this, feeling woozy

 

Ohhhh I also forgot to eat lunch, could be affecting how quickly this gets absorbed. Gonna try the next one with some food in my belly at 6pm.

 

Dang, I think I might've had some compounding losses too so it's wild how Gaba-stoned I am.

[littlebird]

I was going to run some errands, don't think I should drive like this. Weird difference in liquid! I'm high as a kite. 🪁

[littlebird]

Log

Restless sleep, always get night sweats after cutting GabbyP

10am - 97.5mg Gabapentin + enzymes

12pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

1pm - Nervous 

2pm - 97-96%ish homemade liquid gabapentin 

2:15pm - woozy

2:30pm - dizzy

4pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

6pm - 97.5mg(ish) liquid Gabapentin

8pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

10pm - 25mg Pristiq

 

Making liquids requires some math! Hoping I did all right on my first try.

 

Gabapentin didn’t hit so hard on an empty stomach. Nice!

 

Feeling pretty blue tonight! 

 

Gratitude

Grateful for a friend of mine I've known for over 20 years. I get to see them later this month, and it’s always a fun adventure.

 

Glad I finally talked injured partner into seeing a doctor! Thank goodness, I’ve been concerned.

 

I treated myself to some delivery for dinner. Felt good to take a night off!

 

I've been walking it up when we get breaks in rain. I was scared to walk alone for so long after the mugging, feels good to be brave (not to mention the benefits of walking). Feels like a healthy choice!

[RachelSusan]

@littlebird Thank you for taking the time to answer all my questions and comments.  I will be trying the tiger balm.

 

I hope your Gabapentin taper goes smoothly with the least amount of disruption to your life as possible.  I had never thought about liquid absorbing quicker but it makes sense. This is important information for me to be aware of.

 

Warm wishes.

 

 

[littlebird]

Big ole Kaiser rant ahead (language warning):

 

OKAY, what the actual ****. Just got a call from Kaiser, the rescheduled psychiatrist appt I had this Friday (after the first one cancelled on me) just got cancelled too. I can talk to a doctor in April at the soonest. So, just to recap:

 

- My psychiatrist quit, I was never reassigned

- Called day after day after day after ******* day, couldn't get through and kept leaving messages that weren't returned

- Finally got through to a person, and got an appt 7 weeks out

- 7 weeks later, that doctor was a no-show because he cancelled 15 minutes before and the system didn't catch it

- Made an appt for the following month, soonest available with any doctor

- That doctor now cancels too!

- Next available appt (with any doctor) is next month, who knows if that one will happen cause apparently psychiatrists are dropping like flies over there

 

**** Kaiser. I hope a class-action lawsuit sues them into the ******* ground and/or California destroys them with their new Standard of Care law. 

 

Trying to calm down by reminding myself the doctors are terrible anyway, they have largely poly-drugged me to hell and back since I got Kaiser, their advice truly sucks, and this site has far and away provided more information and help and support than all of them put together.

 

Still, god dammit, this really pings the ole "you are not worthy of basic care" childhood ****. 

[littlebird]

Oh man, if you could delete posts I might delete that rant now that I've calmed down a bit. Sorry about the fury, y'all! 😅 Dang, feels like it was even more intense than the rage might usually have been. Might be a good sign that the emotional blunting from Gabs is receding?

 

Well, gotta take the rough with the smooth I guess! Taking deep breaths and taking a little more time to cooooool down before jumping into work. 

 

It's really hard to work through tapering. I wish I could take time off and just process and go for walks and write and stuff. Maybe that's a sign I need to do those things more whenever I can! 

 

I'm doing the best I can, which includes feeling okay with that "best" not being an ideal best or even close to the mark of where I'd like to be. Really tired of being in the Never Good Enough Club, maybe it's time I cool the tough talking and just meet myself where I'm at. Easier said than done, no?

[littlebird]

Log

Poor sleep, more night sweats, why does tapering GabbyP do this?

10am - 96mg Gabapentin liquid

10:30am - dizzy AF

12pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

2pm - 96mg Gabapentin liquid

2:20pm - dizzy/woozy

4pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

6pm - 97.5(ish) Gabapentin liquid

8pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

10pm - 25mg Pristiq

12am - 100mg Seroquel

 

Having a lot of pain since tapering Gabapentin. 

 

Tough day, but I made the most of the good parts! 

 

Gratitude

I had a pharmacy experience that was so easy it was literally shocking. Had an issue with the system, was on hold a super short time, talked to an incredibly bubbly and helpful person who fast tracked my request, and there were no hold-ups at the pharmacy counter. I was bracing myself for something every step of the way, but today meds were easy. I’ll take some ease!

 

Maintaining a healthy boundary with family! My partner is helping me with this one. Holding strong and proud of myself!

 

It was a lovely warm and sunny day! Tried to get a lot of sunshine to prepare for the upcoming "atmospheric river," felt really nice.

 

Brain served up a pleasant flashback! So many birds were singing and it was so warm and tropical-feeling that I had a wonderful transportation to a memory of waking up in the DR with my partner. Absolutely gorgeous mornings on that blissful trip, so pleasant to sit outdoors sipping our coffee and tea (respectively) and watching the birds and enjoying the companionable silence before the rest of the family got up and about.

[littlebird]

Log

Took some herbs to help with nightsweats, wasn’t so bad last night

10am - 97.5mg Gabapentin liquid

12pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

2pm - 97.5mg Gabapentin liquid

4pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

6pm - 97.5 Gabapentin liquid

8pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

10pm - 25pm Pristiq

Gonna be a little past midnight, 100mg Seroquel

 

Gratitude

Went to my first concert since Before Times, it was great!

[Thorin]

21 minutes ago, littlebird said:

Log

Took some herbs to help with nightsweats, wasn’t so bad last night

10am - 97.5mg Gabapentin liquid

12pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

2pm - 97.5mg Gabapentin liquid

4pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

6pm - 97.5 Gabapentin liquid

8pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

10pm - 25pm Pristiq

Gonna be a little past midnight, 100mg Seroquel

 

Gratitude

Went to my first concert since Before Times, it was great!

Awesome that you’re getting out and enjoying yourself!

[littlebird]

Last night at the concert, I realized it was my first concert since high school where I wasn't drinking. I thought I would miss alcohol, but I was totally fine. Turns out I don't need a drink in my hand to have fun at a show!!

 

Glad I held off on going to a "covid concert" until it was one I was excited about. We saw Godspeed You! Black Emperor. I've been listening to them since I was a teen, their music got me through some tough times.

 

It's a pretty obscure Montreal band, most people I mention them to haven't heard of them. When I started dating my partner I was surprised to learn they're an even bigger fan than I am and have been to almost 20 shows (they call seeing a show of theirs as "going to church.") 

 

These tickets were one of my holiday gifts to my partner, and I'm so glad we went. A very special experience! The band is huge and symphonic, and they put together videos that play behind them in time to the music. Always affecting! 

[littlebird]

Log

10am - 97.5mg Gabapentin liquid

12pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

2pm - 100mg Gabapentin pill (on plane)

4pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

6pm - 100mg Gabapentin pill (still on plane)

8pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

10pm - 25mg Pristiq

12am - 100mg Seroquel

 

Made it to the other side of the country! Hello from balmy Florida. That felt like a long flight, but I was talking to someone on his 2nd day of travel after flying from one side of Australia to the other, going to Fiji for a layover, landing in SF, then across the US to Florida. Compared to him, my cross country flight was nothing. My Australian friends, y’all have to trek!

 

Got triggered pretty badly after arriving (in-laws usually have the news on and the story on hit exactly home to my trauma). Trying to restabilize, that threw me into a physical flashback where I felt things in my body. Taking a little time in the guest room to calm down, stay away from the blaring news, and update my log.

 

Back to liquid Gabapentin tomorrow! I’m feeling too sleepy to mix it tonight, but maybe I’ll regret that in the morning. We’ll see! Might mix it up real quick before bed. 

 

Gratitude

My first concert since covid started last night was really magical. Live music is such a gift! 

 

Travel today was smooth, always a joy when it’s easy.

 

It’s nice to have a warm Florida night after chilly bay area weather!

 

I’ve been walking a lot more lately! Which I might not have noticed if my phone hadn’t told me. Proud of myself for being more active, and also for getting back out and about by myself after the attack.

[Thorin]

32 minutes ago, littlebird said:

Last night at the concert, I realized it was my first concert since high school where I wasn't drinking. I thought I would miss alcohol, but I was totally fine. Turns out I don't need a drink in my hand to have fun at a show!!

It’s an awesome realisation when you realise you don’t need booze to have a good time. It’s also I nice feeling to know that eventually you’ll be out of WD and able to have a drink if you feel like it.

 

33 minutes ago, littlebird said:

We saw Godspeed You! Black Emperor. I've been listening to them since I was a teen, their music got me through some tough times.

Oh that’s cool. I will check them out! Just heard Tamar Aphek’s ‘crossbow’ for the first time the other day. I’m loving that one song.

 

34 minutes ago, littlebird said:

These tickets were one of my holiday gifts to my partner, and I'm so glad we went. A very special experience! The band is huge and symphonic, and they put together videos that play behind them in time to the music. Always affecting! 

Sounds amazing

 

30 minutes ago, littlebird said:

My Australian friends, y’all have to trek!

Our country is gargantuan in size and a hell of a long way from anywhere else. We’ve learned to travel long distances!

 

30 minutes ago, littlebird said:

It’s nice to have a warm Florida night after chilly bay area weather!

Always wanted to check out Florida. So keen to see a ‘Florida Man’. It sounds like the Wild West.

[FireflyFyte]

13 hours ago, littlebird said:

Made it to the other side of the country! Hello from balmy Florida.

 A trip - how exciting! I'll be in Florida next week, funny enough.

 

13 hours ago, littlebird said:

My first concert since covid started last night was really magical. Live music is such a gift! 

 

I am glad that you are getting out there and enjoying what life has to offer!

[littlebird]

14 hours ago, Thorin said:

Always wanted to check out Florida. So keen to see a ‘Florida Man’. It sounds like the Wild West.

 

Oh, it's pretty wild here. Last year found myself debating, "Could I punch this person in the face and still make my flight, or would airport security take me to a Florida jail?" 

 

I was wearing a mask in the airport on the way home, and someone got belligerent about it, in my face verbally abusing me about wearing a mask in public. I'm not a violent person, so for me the fact that I was considering hitting them made me think, "Ah... this is how you know it's time to leave Florida."

 

I know you have some wild creatures, but the gators here still get me. There's an 8 foot gator in the pond by the in-law's house that looks like a dinosaur. Can't walk dogs too close to any bodies of water! The gators will shoot out and pull the pups under. WILD!

 

1 hour ago, FireflyFyte said:

A trip - how exciting! I'll be in Florida next week, funny enough.

 

Oh fun!! Where are you going? I'm on the gulf coast, they're still coming back from that hurricane last year. Funny that any one of us could walk by someone from this site, or even have a chat, and have no idea! 

 

14 hours ago, Thorin said:

It’s an awesome realisation when you realise you don’t need booze to have a good time.

 

It was awesome! I was thinking I'd be all nervous and uptight, but I was dancing up a storm and enjoying myself. Not missing the after-effects of drinking, not sure if it was meds or me but after drinking I'd feel depressed for days.

[littlebird]

I've been having pretty bad nerve pain, and noticed it gets worse at night. Thinking about rearranging things a little by bumping Gabapentin to the end of the day by taking Wellbutrin first:

 

10am - 25mg Wellbutrin

12pm - 97.5mg Gabapentin

2pm - 25mg Wellbutrin

4pm - 97.5mg Gabapentin

6pm - 25mg Wellbutrin

8pm - 97.5mg Gabapentin

10pm - 25mg Pristiq

12am - 100mg Seroquel

[littlebird]

11am - 100mg Gabapentin pill (slept through med time and didn’t have time to prepare liquid)

12pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

Napped through 2nd Gabapentin time (2pm)

3pm - 100mg Gabapentin pill (Should have taken time to make liquid or taper, feeling so tired)

4pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

6pm - 97.5mg Gabapentin liquid

7pm - so much less drowsy now!

8pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

10pm - 25mg Pristiq

12am - 100mg Seroquel

 

Visiting the in-laws! Loving the warm weather here.

[FireflyFyte]

22 hours ago, littlebird said:

Oh fun!! Where are you going? I'm on the gulf coast, they're still coming back from that hurricane last year. Funny that any one of us could walk by someone from this site, or even have a chat, and have no idea! 

 

I will be in Orlando and then visiting friends closer to Miami.

[littlebird]

9 hours ago, FireflyFyte said:

I will be in Orlando and then visiting friends closer to Miami.

 

Glad you won't be on this coast! The red tide is horrific here right now. Have so much fun! It's been ages since I was in Miami, but I had a flipping blast.

[littlebird]

Log

10am - 25mg Wellbutrin IR (moving schedule up to take Gabapentin later, hoping to prevent nightly nerve pain)

12pm - 97.5mg liquid Gabapentin

1pm - Little drowsy, not as bad as 100mg Gabapentin

2pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

4pm - 97.5mg Gabapentin liquid

6pm - 25mg Wellbutrin IR

8pm - 97.5mg Gabapentin liquid

10pm - 25mg Pristiq

12amish - 100mg Seroquel

 

Next time I change time zones, I’m gonna start the day of meds 10am of the time zone I’ll eventually be sleeping in. Lesson learned! Wait, what if my flight is cancelled tho? Hm.

 

Gratitude

The warm weather is wonderful!! I think I need to move somewhere tropical. Noticed the pain was worse when it was cold back home, and I’m having much less of it in the warm.

Grateful for my therapist, and the fact that we got to talk before I visit my parents. He helped me a lot, feeling much more empowered going into this. LB gonna be setting boundaries, babes!

 

Found a hawk feather! Felt like a good sign.

[littlebird]

Developmental trauma be like

[Thorin]

2 hours ago, littlebird said:

Grateful for my therapist, and the fact that we got to talk before I visit my parents. He helped me a lot, feeling much more empowered going into this. LB gonna be setting boundaries, babes!

I love that you’re gonna be setting some healthy boundaries! And hawk feathers are super cool. Sort of thing I’d collect.

[Thorin]

3 minutes ago, littlebird said:

Developmental trauma be like

Every damn time 😔. Not sure if it’s getting better so much as I’m becoming more aware of my reaction to it.

[Thorin]

2 hours ago, littlebird said:

Glad you won't be on this coast! The red tide is horrific here right now. Have so much fun! It's been ages since I was in Miami, but I had a flipping blast.

Gonna assume that the red tide is an algal bloom? Is it toxic?

[littlebird]

9 minutes ago, Thorin said:

Not sure if it’s getting better so much as I’m becoming more aware of my reaction to it.

 

Right? I can't tell if I'm just better at soothing that part of me, "You're safe, your partner is having a bad day and it has nothing to do with you. You aren't in danger."

 

And yet! My nervous system still reacts. Well, it kept me safe through all that. Was talking in therapy today about how I learned to read the weather in a room. Hoping it calms down with time and recovery.

[littlebird]

10 minutes ago, Thorin said:

Gonna assume that the red tide is an algal bloom? Is it toxic?

 

Yup, it's super nasty. Kills tons of fish, and is really hard on the respiratory system to have the toxins on the wind. Last time I was near the shore when it hit I felt like I had a bronchitis or asthma, even felt systemically pretty sick until I got inland and got some better air in my lungs.

 

There are very few beaches open after hurricane ian, but even those might be off limits to us if this sticks around while we're here. Ah well, we have sunshine and a pool in walking distance! Life is working out fine.

[littlebird]

2 hours ago, littlebird said:

10am - 25mg Wellbutrin IR (moving schedule up to take Gabapentin later, hoping to prevent nightly nerve pain)

 

Switching up the schedule today was a win! Had more "get up and go" starting the day with WellyB, and less pain in the evening with a later GabbyP. I think this is what I'm going to do from here on out.

[littlebird]

Okay, feeling weirdly wound up!! Maybe taking Pristiq after Wellbutrin was masking some of the activating effects of it? Taking Pristiq after Gabapentin tonight with this adjusted schedule, instead of feeling sleepy I am wired.

[Thorin]

19 minutes ago, littlebird said:

Right? I can't tell if I'm just better at soothing that part of me, "You're safe, your partner is having a bad day and it has nothing to do with you. You aren't in danger."

Same, but maybe once that part has been soothed enough it starts to relax. I don’t know.

 

19 minutes ago, littlebird said:

And yet! My nervous system still reacts. Well, it kept me safe through all that.

Same, but we don’t need protecting anymore.

 

20 minutes ago, littlebird said:

that. Was talking in therapy today about how I learned to read the weather in a room. Hoping it calms down with time and recovery.

Same but I only ever attuned to the ‘danger’ as I perceived it. Some people walk in and attune to the good stuff.

 

16 minutes ago, littlebird said:

 

Yup, it's super nasty. Kills tons of fish, and is really hard on the respiratory system to have the toxins on the wind. Last time I was near the shore when it hit I felt like I had a bronchitis or asthma, even felt systemically pretty sick until I got inland and got some better air in my lungs.

Oh wow that’s incredible.

 

16 minutes ago, littlebird said:

There are very few beaches open after hurricane ian, but even those might be off limits to us if this sticks around while we're here. Ah well, we have sunshine and a pool in walking distance! Life is working out fine.

Still sounds lovely regardless. I’m going to see it one day!

[littlebird]

Okie, going out with in-laws during the GabbyP time. Thinking of bringing a small bag, throwing the bottle and a syringe in, and slipping away to dose myself the same way I dose my pup in the shadows somewhere. It's going to be hours out of the fridge, but it shouldn't go bad in one evening... right? 😬 No ice packs small enough to bring with.

 

PS: Holy hell this stuff tastes so nasty. Real hard not to pull a face. Wish I could shoot it directly down my throat without tasting it!